NishP Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I talked to Aaron Scobel last also considering coming out of retirement for one year just thought I should mention <------- D.Flo tweeted this about 5 minutes ago, don't know if he was serious but this would be interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Idk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 AdamSchefter: And @mortreport reports the Bills will have a 1:30 press conference to announce the signing of Mario Williams. [via Twitter] Â Here we go!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 I'd be ok with that, as long as he doesn't look like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishP Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 ESPN.Com is reporting it now, a healthy schobel, Merriman, Kelsay and Williams..... Let's go buffalo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 ESPN.Com is reporting it now, a healthy schobel, Merriman, Kelsay and Williams..... Let's go buffalo! Got a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 ESPN.Com is reporting it now, a healthy schobel, Merriman, Kelsay and Williams..... Let's go buffalo! Â Â Where does anyone see Schobel coming back>? I only see Williams stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juror#8 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Just heard it from two separate outlets. Â Something about Drayton Florence speaking with Schobel and he is considering coming out of retirement to join the party. I think he is only 32. Anyone else hear this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWVABillsFan Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Just heard it from two separate outlets. Â Something about Drayton Florence speaking with Schobel and he is considering coming out of retirement to join the party. I think he is only 32. Anyone else hear this? Heard nothing; but, if it is true they have to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Is Schobel planning on coming back at 230 pounds or whatever he weighed when he retired? I'll pass. He bailed on the Bills two years ago. F*** him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 If you can find a credible link (not to Florence's twitter) please feel free to post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Through the writing of another post one of the replies to that said post was -- " I Hope we are not comparing Mario to Schobel" & i wasn't sure if that was a slam against Schobel or a compliment ..  So with my interest peaking taking the comment as a slam against our beloved retired B .Bill Arron Schobel i did a bit of checking on that reply & found that Schobel was pretty dam good !!!  Although i am ecstatic about Mario signing with the Bills & think that he will be a huge help in getting us back to being relevant , Schobel was a monster & had a big  60.5 sacks in his first 6 years playing for the Bills in the NFL so that is nothing to sneeze at , & i put this post up not only in hopes that the guy that wrote that reply would read this & not only realize how good Schobel was while here but recant that statement if in fact it was a slam .  And let the rest of the Bills Mafia know just how good Schobel was for our Bills & not take a slam at him like that other guy did !!  I will go one farther in saying that with Schobel being off for like 2 or more years i would bet that if he has stayed in good shape & wanted to come back to playing ball could put up as many or more sacks than any one we currently have on the Bills roster !!  Given all that i have said we haven't had the kind of pass rush that Mario is going to give us since Schobel left !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBackersChicago Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 T Master brought this up in another forum, so the credit for the data goes to him (and NFL.com obviously), the blame for the question (and for looking the gift horse in the eye) goes to me.... Aaron Schobel first 6 seasons 60.5 sacks, 96 games played, therefore .630 sacks per game Mario Williams first 6 seasons, 53 sacks, 82 games played, therefore .646 sacks per game. Now don't get me wrong, I nearly pee'd myself when Williams was signed, and I DO think he can be a franchise changer, but it really shocked me to realize that we had someone who by the numbers seemed to be comparable in terms of his ability to get to the QB. The nagging thought I have is that why is this new amazing pass rusher going to change anything when we had an amazing (albeit underrated) pass rusher before and still sucked. I also wonder why I am so excited about this signing when we have arguably had a comparable pass rusher in the recent past So to talk myself off the ledge I came to the following conclusions: Why Williams will have much more impact than schobel ever did: unlike schobel, williams will have the benefit of: 1. Supporting cast (KW, MD) 2. Less than anemic offense, so defense will not have to be on field all game 3. Decent secondary when pass rush was present last year Why williams signing should elicit so much excitement 1. Credibility to the organization (in terms of willingness to spend, commitment to win, 2. Huge shot in the arm to the area (He definitively defended the city and lauded the area and its occupants in his first press conference, and noted it as a main reason why he decided to sign with buffalo (as opposed to signing despite the area). 3. The fact that #1 and #2 will assist in bringing in more talent in the future) 4. In this context, pass rush may be the critical component needed to make the defense solid (will make the run D more stout by being able to seal the edge, will make the secondary better by shortening routes and not having to worry as much about defending the run with safeties, then combine a solid D with a significantly improved offense and we may be real contenders). When schobel was here, It think we were pretty bad DESPITE having a pass rush, not because we didn't have one, which is why this is such a big deal. Anyways, I know that I am talking in circles, and yes, this is mostly for my own therapy to continue to feel ecstatic about recent events but I just wanted to get your thoughts on why this time will be different, or why schobel's surprising talent never translated to wins for our teams. AS an aside, I know that Schobel's production slipped off after his 6th year, but that was when he was injured and missed a lot of time, his last year, however, he notched 10 sacks, so there's nothing to say he was really falling off in terms in production, still can't believe he retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2012/3/16/2877130/aaron-schobel-rumors-retirement-buffalo-bills#comments  I would have no problem if Schobel wanted to return. I think Schobel got burnt out and sick of losing. IMO, Schobel got tired of the organization not showing the willingness to win. People forget that the last season Schobel played was a good one. He had 10 sacks, plus the best play of his career when he had a leaping one-handed INT (against Brady) that he returned for a TD.  At this point, the most I think he should get would be between $2-3 million a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OI5La3C2UA  That play starts at about a 1:15  If he was healthy and wanted to play id be up for it  And I wouldnt recommend watch the end of that highlight reel Edited March 16, 2012 by Captain Hindsight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 He got sick of losing? Boo Freakin' Hoo! Stay in Texas and run the family restaurant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) I don't think he would be a Chan and Buddy guy just like how they perceived Lee Evans. Wasn't Schobel the guy as perceived as lazy during practice? Â I don't want him either. You don't bring back quitters that lack heart. He is anti what this team is about right now. Edited March 16, 2012 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I loved Schobel while he was here but at this point I'm not sure if he would be an upgrade over guys we already have, after taking 2 years off. I guess it wouldn't hurt to work him out and offer him a modest contract if he can show he's still got it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 At the time I said he was leaving because he didn't want to transition to a 3-4 just like Hansen retired when williams wanted to transition to a 4-3. I don't know what the guy has left but switching back to a 4-3 would be a step in the right direction. I think I'd look to the draft for another DE first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 It would be a great move to bring him in for a year provided he's in shape and isn't asking for too much money. A DE rotation with M Williams, Merriman, Kelsay, & Schobel would give us so much depth that we could always have a fresh effective pass rusher on the field & gives us insurance so we could withstand an injury or two without it tanking our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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