Delete This Account Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 as the thread in question has now been locked, it leaves a certain unanswered question lingering in regards to my reputation and certain baseless accusations made by an anonymous poster. so i'm opening this thread in the event said poster would care to muster a response, and verify how he believes i don't know what i know. well? jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 as the thread in question has now been locked, it leaves a certain unanswered question lingering in regards to my reputation and certain baseless accusations made by an anonymous poster. so i'm opening this thread in the event said poster would care to muster a response, and verify how he believes i don't know what i know. well? jw While John I respect your insight and knowledge of the Bills with your sources behind the scenes knowledge I only want to know if you know what you need to know... Where was Thurmans helmet?! Do not let it get to you, though. You make a living on your words and that alone speaks volume enough for your reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted September 3, 2011 Author Share Posted September 3, 2011 While John I respect your insight and knowledge of the Bills with your sources behind the scenes knowledge I only want to know if you know what you need to know... Where was Thurmans helmet?! Do not let it get to you, though. You make a living on your words and that alone speaks volume enough for your reputation. funny. for everyone here on this board, let me explain that i'd rather not have to go to this extent in calling out someone else in this fashion. it's uncomfortable for me. and i'm sure uncomfortable for a lot of people, including the moderators. however, i didn't start this. and i don't like the fact that my reputation is being called out in this fashion. i don't want to get into a debate as to who has better insight to the Bills, me, him or someone else. all information that's posted here on this board is open to debate. but when someone comes out and openly accuses me of having no knowledge of something, well, that's a little personal. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 For the love of Tim Graham and Lori, some azzholes around here never learn. Stay cool jw. You're appreciated here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 For the love of Tim Graham and Lori, some azzholes around here never learn. Stay cool jw. You're appreciated here. So is NGU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 For the love of Tim Graham and Lori, some azzholes around here never learn. Stay cool jw. You're appreciated here. this ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Frankly it bothers me as a regular poster when NGU and John W. would even have a reason to debate.... Two people I count on for real news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 as the thread in question has now been locked, it leaves a certain unanswered question lingering in regards to my reputation and certain baseless accusations made by an anonymous poster. so i'm opening this thread in the event said poster would care to muster a response, and verify how he believes i don't know what i know. well? jw John, I'm not clear as to why you even feel the need to respond to baseless accusations. I don't know what they were, but any kind of a response tends to give them some credibility. Some people just love to kick the hornet's nest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Frankly it bothers me as a regular poster when NGU and John W. would even have a reason to debate.... Two people I count on for real news I should keep my opinions to myself, but I'll let them out a bit. They didn't debate. NGU (whoever he is) flatly stated that something JW published under his name was untrue. That isn't debate, that is an anonymous accusation and we have no idea what the motive was. We know what Wawrow's motives are...to bring us the best Bills (and Sabres) news he's capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 so "jw" wants nevergiveup to reveal his sources? will "jw" do the same? yeah, didn't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 John, he did say that the decision could have come from the owner. If so, Ralph wouldn't do it himself. In this sense, could you and NGU both be correct about the trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I should keep my opinions to myself, but I'll let them out a bit. They didn't debate. NGU (whoever he is) flatly stated that something JW published under his name was untrue. That isn't debate, that is an anonymous accusation. And I get that JW gets extra street cred around here - I give it myself but I don't know that it warrants this thread. Throw a PM out there and discuss it privately. I dunno. No offense to JW (and he's already acknowledged this) but this thread is going to be awkward and end nowhere good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 so "jw" wants nevergiveup to reveal his sources? will "jw" do the same? yeah, didn't think so. Where was anything about sources mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 so "jw" wants nevergiveup to reveal his sources? will "jw" do the same? yeah, didn't think so. No, i think from just reading what jw said that jw wants nevergiveup to post his real name like John Wawrow is, if NGU is going to make these accusations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Where was anything about sources mentioned? It is my understanding that JW just wants to know what basis NGU has for claiming JW falsified something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Where was anything about sources mentioned? In the other thread JW did call out NGU for being an anonymous name on a message board and calling him out behind that name. I don't care to take sides in this as I think they're both in the wrong at this point. But given that JW uses anonymous sources all the time, I don't think that's a fair argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 While I appreciate Nevergiveup, Wawrow is the guy who has had telephone interviews with Ralph. I don't know how anyone can say he " doesn't talk to anyone." I think it would be best for this board if NGU stops this kind of attack on an AP reporter. But the chances of that happening are about the same as Tim Graham coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 What are we talking about? I missed something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boludo Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 jesus christ welcome to the internet people say stuff just to rile other people up all the time when you get all butthurt over it you are just playing right into their hand and giving them what they want get a thicker skin by responding to baseless and ludicrous accusations you only serve to give them more merit and attention than they would otherwise receive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 And I get that JW gets extra street cred around here - I give it myself but I don't know that it warrants this thread. Throw a PM out there and discuss it privately. I dunno. No offense to JW (and he's already acknowledged this) but this thread is going to be awkward and end nowhere good. I agree--take this s*** off the wall. Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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