disco Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 The only source for that rumor is the Bills in-house propagandist. Evans has no reason not to admit to it now, but hasn't. His pre-trade comments should more likely be read as a signal of his class and professionalism. I'm sure he's not unhappy to be gone, but there is 0 evidence that he formally requested a trade. P.T. Barnum would have loved you guys. Seriously? You think the only source of Evans wanting out of Buffalo is Chris Brown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Yikes. It sounds like Nix basically said "I didn't trade him -- Overdorf did." Ugly stuff. At the risk of repeating myself... NOTHING will change until Wilson, Overdorf & Littman are no longer part of this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) The change to new ownership can't happen soon enough. I think it's now irrefutable that our "HOF" owner is indeed cheap. The good news is, he's as old as Methuselah, so he'll either die or be forced due to infirmity to sell soon. Then either the team gets a real owner and wins for us, or it moves. Either way, it's a WIN, IMO. Tiiiiiiiiiime, it's on my side. Yes it is! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIE2GAqnFGw Edited August 23, 2011 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Sadly, the NFL is a business and Jackson's outcome is similar to Evans-- likely being traded away after this season for a 3-5th rounder in 2012 or the 2013 draft... 3-5 for a 30+ slightly above average running back? I wish you were the GM of another team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 23, 2011 Author Share Posted August 23, 2011 good on ya jw, great piece....but i'm thinking exclusives with wilson may be a thing of the past. You are probably correct, but if I were a journalist, I wouldn't want my epitaph to read, "only wrote stories that people were OK with" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 3-5 for a 30+ slightly above average running back? I wish you were the GM of another team how about we not trade him and just let him continue to outperform our other running back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Cueing PTR to tell us that what we think of Ralph and Overdork is an exaggeration and the franchise is in perfect shape and the jets and pats are overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Cueing PTR to tell us that what we think of Ralph and Overdork is an exaggeration and the franchise is in perfect shape and the jets and pats are overrated This is ridiculous. All this bashing over Overdorf. You guys act like he didn't even attend the NFL Executive Program at Stanford University in 2004. Well guess what. He did. Says so right in his bio: http://assets.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=3578 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Things are bad now, but it will be worse when the Bills cut one or all of Hangartner, Moorman and McGee before the start of the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 what i wrote is what i wrote. sorry, but staying out of this discussion. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 what i wrote is what i wrote. sorry, but staying out of this discussion. jw I, for one loved it. The truth hurts, but it needs to be told. :thumbsup: from the peanut gallery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 John, There have been some rumors recently (so far unsubstantiated) that there is something going on with the ownership situation for the Bills which could be very positive. Have you heard anything about this? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 what i wrote is what i wrote. sorry, but staying out of this discussion. jw A very wise move. You're just lucky we're not in a bar or I'd have you talkin'......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Nice article, JW. I think it fairly sums up the current state of the franchise. The hint of puzzled, frustrated gloom in the piece mirrors the emotional state of many fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 what i wrote is what i wrote. sorry, but staying out of this discussion. jw Thanks for the great article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninFl Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 (edited) I can't believe how many of you guys are acting like this is new news. Several of us have been posting the way this organization is run for years. Don't expect John Wawrow to elaborate any further on his point. It took courage to say what he did. Of course, many of you will not believe that this franchise has been devious and dysfunctional for many years, and now is even less subtle about cashing in as much as possible right now. I've been an executive in corporations that are getting ready for sale, more than once. At some point the ownership decides that the ultimate goal is the sale of the business (team) because they know they will not be competitive in the future. This may be because new competition has far more resources, or it may just be that the current ownership (of the Bills) has determined that they are not willing to invest the big bucks it will take to have a champion. So for a period of months or years, the business starts tightening its belt by cutting expenses (therefore improving profitability). When the business goes up for sale, interested buyers see a financial profile that looks very healthy, making it look like they can offer more money for the organization. As fans, we have to hope that a buyer wants more than a lucrative investment. We need new ownership that wants his new toy to be a champion and is willing to spend the additional bucks to make it happen. We also need the purchaser to keep the team where it is. The situation is not hopeless, but we need a "white knight." Edited August 24, 2011 by BillsfaninFl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 You are probably correct, but if I were a journalist, I wouldn't want my epitaph to read, "only wrote stories that people were OK with" agree 100%. i wonder how many other journalists were/are aware of similar circumstances, perhaps about other team owners that have never been disclosed. even the vick/goodell story wasn't the lead on many nfl sites. i'd wager there are more past similar stories about wilson that were never written Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 At the risk of repeating myself... NOTHING will change until Wilson, Overdorf & Littman are no longer part of this organization. The happiest day will be when the new owner gives Overdouche and Littman the same treatment Larry Quinn got from Pegs. The "thanks, but your services are no longer needed. Pack your things and security will escort you out" line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Most teams have some type of cap guy, who's responsibility it is to watch the cap and advise on how much $ a team can afford to spend here and there. However, on most teams, its up to the GM to take that information and use it in the manner they see fit. Many people here have a financial advisor. But ultimately, its up to you what you do with your money. On the Bills, ralphie's bean counters make the decisions. The change to new ownership can't happen soon enough. This cannot be overstated! I was already in this camp but boy after reading this JW article I have a horrible, bitter and disgusting taste in my mouth with respect to my beloved Bills. What a cluster fudge we have with the Bills "rebuilding" campaign! The Sabres change in ownership has really shown me what it feels like to have an owner who actually wants to win, not shave a few extra dollars for the owner's pocket in his final golden years... absoluely disgusting!!! Go Sabres! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 The happiest day will be when the new owner gives Overdouche and Littman the same treatment Larry Quinn got from Pegs. The "thanks, but your services are no longer needed. Pack your things and security will escort you out" line. That will be glorious... but I will be happier when the new owner changes the name of the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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