Estro Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/26/matt-leinart-benched-for-saturday-could-be-done-in-arizona/ If the rumor about being shipped to Seattle is true, it would just be further proof that Pete Carroll is not a quality NFL head coach. With Seattle's combo of weak talent and poor coaching (I have no confidence in Carroll as an NFL head man) they're my darkhorse pick to have the leagues worst record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 (edited) No surprise there the way he's played so far in his career. Next stop, the UFL! Edited August 26, 2010 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 (edited) http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/26/matt-leinart-benched-for-saturday-could-be-done-in-arizona/ I didn't mind us passing on Leinart in the draft, but I would have preferred we got Ngata instead of Whitner. That being said...it does make me feel a little bit better that we didn't waste a pick on this guy. At least (it looks like) Whitner will be here this year. Edited August 26, 2010 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Wow... now there, my friends, is an example of the dangers of picking QBs in the first round! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Maybe if Seattle trades for Leinart, we can get that Losman kid. He seems to be playing well in the preseason. Only kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllDayADay Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Maybe if Seattle trades for Leinart, we can get that Losman kid. He seems to be playing well in the preseason. Only kidding. Yeah, mostly about the playing well part. The guy is just not NFL material. When you watch J.P, at least for me, it makes me appreciate Trent a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 I didn't mind us passing on Leinart in the draft, but I would have preferred we got Ngata instead of Whitner. That being said...it does make me feel a little bit better that we didn't waste a pick on this guy. At least (it looks like) Whitner will be here this year. They could have had both Ngata and Whitner if they would have played their cards right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Wow... now there, my friends, is an example of the dangers of picking QBs in the first round! Know what else is a danger of picking a QB in the first round? The chance of turning your franchise around from a consistent loser, to a consistent winner. But yeah, since there is a chance you can bust, I'd just go ahead and not ever pick a QB. Who needs em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Wow... now there, my friends, is an example of the dangers of picking QBs in the first round! Yeah, two listed in the same piece. Losman and Leinart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Another franchise QB the Bills were "stupid" not to draft. Toss him on the pile with the other ones. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 (edited) They could have had both Ngata and Whitner if they would have played their cards right... Ahhhh, you're talking about the old trade-down-get-Ngata-and-possibly-trade-up-slightly-and-get-Whitner trick! ...yeah, that just would have made Marv's head hurt a little too much, soooooo no. (EDIT - Even if people don't like the tebow pick by the broncos I do respect - as you probably do, too - the wheeling and dealing they did to do it...way beyond our FO) Regardless of how good he would be for us now, as a Bill, I think I could forgive about 13 bad picks the Bills have made if we just would have gotten Ngata. Edited August 26, 2010 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 I laugh at Pete Carroll's secret plan to reconstitute the USC Trojans team in Seattle. I feel for Arizona fans. They have all that weaponry on the field, legitimate contenders and it all lives or dies on Senor Hottub and Shotgun Arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Does anybody remember the Cardinals/Bears game from four years ago? Leinart was spectacular that game. I thought for sure he was going to be an all-pro after that game. It was only his second career starts against one of the best defenses in the league he went 24-for-42 for 232 yards, 2 TD's, and no INT's. He finished the season with 11 TD's, 12 INT's, and over 2,500 yards passing. With such a promising start, how did he get to where he's being replaced by...Derek Anderson?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Apparently Leinart was also trying to steal Trent's title from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineMoxie Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 (edited) Know what else is a danger of picking a QB in the first round? The chance of turning your franchise around from a consistent loser, to a consistent winner. But yeah, since there is a chance you can bust, I'd just go ahead and not ever pick a QB. Who needs em. Read this article. Roughly 10 of the 35 first-round QBs taken between 1990 and 2006 have been successful in the NFL. Based on that list, I estimate 7 of those 10 were/are "franchise" QBs: McNair, Manning (arguably both), Palmer, Rivers, Roethlisberger, and Rodgers. I would say the jury is still out on those taken since 2006 - Ryan and Flacco have been solid so far, Stafford seems OK, but Sanchez was seriously overrated last year. Moreover, in the last decade, despite 26 first-round QBs having been taken in that period, there have been a total of 12 pro-bowl berths for that group and none has been first-team (note this does not include Peyton Manning and Steve McNair who were drafted in the '90s). You might argue that Palmer, in his prime, deserved a first-team pro bowl berth and Rodgers might get one eventually (maybe Rivers). But if you simply want a serviceable QB in the first round (don't know why you'd waste a first-round pick on a serviceable QB, but...) there were a few others - but there also were a large number of busts. Edited August 26, 2010 by MaineMoxie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonidas Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Read this article. Roughly 10 of the 35 first-round QBs taken between 1990 and 2006 have been successful in the NFL. Based on that list, I estimate 7 of those 10 were/are "franchise" QBs: McNair, Manning (arguably both), Palmer, Rivers, Roethlisberger, and Rodgers. I would say the jury is still out on those taken since 2006 - Ryan and Flacco have been solid so far, Stafford seems OK, but Sanchez was seriously overrated last year. Moreover, in the last decade, despite 26 first-round QBs having been taken in that period, there have been a total of 12 pro-bowl berths for that group and none has been first-team (note this does not include Peyton Manning and Steve McNair who were drafted in the '90s). You might argue that Palmer, in his prime, deserved a first-team pro bowl berth and Rodgers might get one eventually (maybe Rivers). But if you simply want a serviceable QB in the first round (don't know why you'd waste a first-round pick on a serviceable QB, but...) there were a few others - but there also were a large number of busts. Sanchez and Stafford has basically identical years last year. How can you say one is okay but the other is overrated?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 why would seattle try to get leinart? they've got hasselbeck, charlie whitehurst (who's tearing it up), and jp losman... ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 The bills had a 2nd round grade on Leinart, and liked Cutler better. Despite the picks, I wish we drafted Cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever Since '86 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Sanchez and Stafford has basically identical years last year. How can you say one is okay but the other is overrated?? might want to check those stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 might want to check those stats Sanchez and Stafford did have very simuilar stats last yr Qb Rating Stafford 61 Sanchez 63 TD passes Stafford 13 (plus 2 rushing) Sanchez 12 (plus 3 rushing) Both had 20 INTS Both had a 53% completion percentage. Not much difference besides the fact that Sanchez benefited from playing on a good team and Stafford takes the heat for playing on a crappy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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