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We will need Ingram to step up. I think he will. The guy has length and can move reasonably well. He has way more upside than Tre White at this point in their careers. Unless Tre has a couple gears he was not showing against the Giants and through training camp, no reason he should be on the team at this point. I have to think the Ravens have to be chomping at the bit w the thought of their WR’s going one on one against him. Ugh that could really be ugly and embarrassing. But the Bills love to bring back “their guys.”😳😳

And he had great hands. There are real good players in every sport in every era. And there are the all timers. Jerry Rice is a Mt Rushmore type.

Codrington was a good return man. But he is small. And we already have Samuel and Moore who are both small. I have always liked Shenault's game. A bigger return man. Plus I think he can give us something at WR. I liked his 2 point catch in the end zone against the Giants.

Back when Rice played noone said he ran 4.71. It was always around 4.55 from what I remember. And I watched his entire career. It has been a while. But the way he played WR will never be duplicated. Whatever he ran in the 40, he never looked slow running on the field. I will say that. Its funny but three guys who were as fast as any WR's of any era that I saw were Isaac Curtis-Bengals, Roger Carr-Colts and Cliff Branch-Raiders. All 3 could just burn!! And they all played in the 1970's.

Ever year at this time, I just get real pissed at the front office. Bills love medium floor, low ceiling players. Never take risks. They are so predictable on cutdown day. It should be a no brainer keeping Chenault over Codrington. And what about Cialo? Guy has way more upside at this point then Buffalo Joe and Shaq Thompson. And I would keep Latu over Zack Davidson. And find a place for Wilkerson and Shavers if at all possible. What we have done for the past 6 years has not gotten us to the Super Bowl. Other than Josh Cook Ty Johnson Shakir Benford and the O line, noone elses job should have been safe going into the off season. Not saying we should have 70% new roster. But unless you have climbed the mountain and reached the pinnacle, things need to be changed every year.

What do you think Tre is???? A below average veteran.

All real good points. The MAC is not big time college football. My son played high school ball in the Atlanta area 8-10 years ago. He played w X McKinney on the Packers and their back up QB from Liberty-name escapes me at the moment. Their team was loaded as any HS team was back in 2016. He was recruited hard by Bowling Green and W Michigan. Chose Syracuse and then transferred to Georgia Southern. Had a good career. But played a little out of position as a 4-3 DE versus LB. The level of play in the Sun Belt was better than the MAC. But not exponentially. (My son should have transferred before his last year to a mid level Big 10 or ACC program and would have had a better shot at the pros- but he always did his own thing w/o asking his parents for advice) My point is not a lot of stud players are coming out of either conference. We got Leodis McKelvin from Troy. (Da Marcus aware played there also). I know nothing about this kid Dolac. But it’s a big step up to the NFL from Group of 5 schools is all. Does Dolac look like the next LT? And you are also right about living in a big time city when you are in your 20’s. I moved to Atlanta after college when I graduated in 1987. My two boys live in Miami. And my daughter lives in LA. But we have Cialo. I think he could really be a baller in the NFL. I sure hope McBeane feel the same way!’

Shenault is a better football player than Codrington period. I don’t think Codrington could start at most Power 5 conferences as a CB now. We don’t need so many small guys on the team. Physicality is important still in the NFL. It’s pro football.

Buffalo Joe is London Fletcher light. He is a plugger. The problem is the game is not played like that so much anymore. Have to be able to drop back in coverage a lot playing LB in today’s game.

He could be our 4th best LB right now. After Bernard Milano and Dorian, no one stands out. Ciarlo plays like the game isn’t too big for him. He could easily make a difference for us. And he is good on ST, which was brutal on kick coverage last night. We shall see if the Bills brass thinks the same thing. I don’t think management is great w roster building. They know O lineman and RB’s. The rest they have gotten by because of Josh. But they need to be better to win the bowl. Let’s hope they figure it out this year.

The Bills really must not like Carter. I had no idea why they were drafting someone in the 3rd round from Duke anyways. I guess Zion Logue is not the answer? But I don’t mind that fivesome. But Phillips will probably be hurt in less time then Tre was. 😳😳

Agree about Bass. He makes me nervous. High school kickers can’t miss those. And he almost missed another one as well. Don’t like his ball alway drifting to the right.

Glad someone gets it on here. Tre White is slow and looks and plays a whole lot older than 30. There was just no reason to bring him back this season. He will keep getting injured or burned if he does ever suit up again. At least Bishop looked better last night. And Walker is going to be a beast at DT. #35 Cialo moves and reacts better than Buffalo Joe. And is a demon on ST. He should make the final 53. He is Tyler Matekevich w some ability to play LB too.

Tre is like an old car that keeps breaking down. Is anyone surprised he is already injured? No good reason that the Bills resigned him and Dane Jackson. For whatever reason Beane can’t get over guys who played for us, once they leave. Everyone has their shelf life. Tre’s has expired. Need some young veteran talent at CB. Hopefully we can put some semblance of a competent secondary on the field when the bullets start to fly🙏🙏

Next man up should be Ingram. He has length, and looks better than Jackson and Strong. Its too bad about Tre. But he looked lousy against the Giants. And that was giving a 10 yard cushion to the Giant receivers he was trying to guard. Maybe Ingram has the magic. The secondary is a mess. Lets hope at least someone at safety steps up next to Rapp.

My comment has nothing to do w Alexander. He may be the next Darelle Revis for all I know. And that would be awesome. He is coming from a good program. I really hope he balls out! i was just never a Levi Wallace fan is all. Didn’t like his game. (Because basically he didn’t have much game to like) I am sure everyone on this board has guys they did not like for one reason or another.

He was starting for us. And it was painful.

Can we put the bar higher than Levi Wallace, please? The guy was barely an NFL caliber backup CB. You are not winning super bowls with guys like Levi starting or even playing.

I would get rid of Moore and Samuel, and roll with Shakir Coleman Palmer Shavers Wilkerson and Shenault. There is plenty of size and speed with that group. Moore and Samuel are small, hurt a lot and just are not very good. I would get rid of Buffalo Joe too. #35 Cialo or whatever his name is, (West Point is what they called him on Hard Knocks) has more athleticism and upside. Safety is an issue. Would love Forrest to show something. And Hancock when healthy will make some plays for us, and will start next year for sure.

I was thinking the same thing about Bishop. He could be cut. Guy doesn't even look built like a football player in the slightest. Didn't he play safety at Utah. Why is he always out of position playing the position he played in college. Something really seems amiss. Hancock at leasts looks and plays like a football player. And has loads of upside. I did not watch the second half of the debacle on Sunday night. But Cain looked good last year in the preseason. Has decent size and speed. Why is it never an open competition at WR on this team. Its like we go into OTA's and training camp with the team pretty much set at WR every year. I was reading that we had like one of the least roster turnovers from last year. We need some new juice at WR. Why not keep Wilkerson Shavers and Cain? And put them with Coleman Shakir and Palmer. Moore and Samuel are small and injury prone. If not all three of those. Keep Chenault to return kicks and be a gadget guy. And go with Shavers and either Wilkerson or Cain.

Hancock started on the Buckeyes Nat Championship team. I don't think the moment would be too big for him. Is his game ready to start? That's for the coaches to get him there. I really like his instincts and athleticism though. Just needs experience. The secondary was rough last year. And looks pretty bad outside of Benford right now. One thing noone is talking about is losing our secondary coach after the 2023 season. John Butler. He was good. And left because he wasn't given the DC job. Babich has definitely not done much. I think Butler had a lot more experience. Losing him as secondary coach maybe a bigger deal then anyone knows.

Buffalo Joe could not start right now for the top half of the SEC or Big 10. He looks so overmatched. We have a lot of guys who are so limited athletically on defense. It’s a big problem. We have missed on a lot of guys. Even our supposed good players on defense are not that good. Other than maybe Benford and Milano, if healthy. (Bernard is always banged up and so is Taron.) Having the same coach and GM is good for continuity. But sometimes you need a different set of eyes and different way of thinking added to the mix. Things can get stale. Hopefully last night was a wake up call. If not, the opener could certainly be. Having Tre White and Bishop or Hamlin starting against the Ravens really scares me.

I agree about Samuel and Moore. They both won’t make much of a difference and our too small. Keep Wilkerson Shavers and Chennault. Put Hamler on the Practice squad. At least we have some size then. And get rid of Davidson. My goodness he is bad. As for safety you can’t have that bad a position group and hope to contend for the Super Bowl. The deep middle. is always going to be open. And what about CB2 ? If Tre is done which could be very true, who else plays there if Hairston isn’t ready. Strong looks lost. Jackson is so done. And do we feel good about Ingram? The secondary is looking very iffy all around right now.

The sad thing is you’re right. Bishop looks absolutely clueless on the field. Hamlin understands the game. But just can’t move fast enough The truth of the matter is that Hancock a 5th round pick has the most physical ability of any safety in the Bills roster including Rapp. (Who would probably not start for half the teams in the NFL-but is at least solid, a Poyer light who knocks everyone out around him including himself ) Real bad indictment on the Bills front office with this group of safeties.

Talent gets you on the field. And Hancock has that. He started on the Buckeyes Nat Championship team. So he can play football. He will be good for us. And he has a much higher ceiling than Lewis and Hamlin.