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But who really cares besides fans? Not trying to be a jerk...just asking the question.

It's still missing that both QB performed in vastly different eras. It's like the people who look down and see MLB'ers who hit 500 homers in the 50s/60s and compare that to the juiced era. As if there's no difference. Marino was doing this when people had backs running the ball 350+ times a season, defenders could destroy QBs and WR's, and teams generally didn't throw the ball like they do now. Now, the rules favor the passing offense and no one dares hit a QB. We've seen how that gets flagged and PI is called far differently than it was in the mid-80s. Ergo, passing records are easier. The other thing is, all of this is just symbolism over substance. I doubt Josh is concerned with this "record" or that he's been QB for the AFCE winner these last 3 seasons after the franchise drought going back into the mid-90s. It's a fan specific thing to highlight. Means basically nothing.

I will never understand why people come here to post regular season statistical performance that, considering where the franchise is, having nothing to do with post-season performance. And I say that completely believing Josh had won them the Divisional Round game last year. Everyone knows that Josh is a franchise QB...we don't need to validate that concept anymore.

The Fantasy Football approach to NFL roster strategy continues.

Crap show.

I'm not the first to say this here...but the draft is strategic and not tactical in nature. By that I mean it's not for addressing immediate issues like Buffalo has at OT, G, and WR. Because as soon as that happens, you're drafting more for need than you'll admit...which is how you wind up with the 2nd rounders this team took in 2019-2021 (Ford, Epenesa, Basham). If the higher level (vision for how this team plays offensively) isn't addressed first, the downstream decisions aren't going to work. Prime example is, the Bills decided during the '22 off-season that getting run-specific OLinemen like Saffold and taking another RB highly was the right offensive strategy...but it wasn't. Their OL is still not good and Josh is still forced to carry the ball ~10 times per. It's pretty concerning to me that the same personnel group and HC decided that their UFAs and draft picks would make the offense better are faced with the same problem again in 2023. Some people at OBD need to take a long look in the mirror and adjust their vision for what this team will be in the coming years not only on offense but both sides of the ball.

One would think the AP All-Pro 1st and 2nd teams will be a better indicator of who's the best at their position than this hot garbage.

The Basham pick just screamed he was a McD pick, so I guess everyone was aligned with that thinking or wouldn't challenge the defensive mindset leading up to the draft. However they set the board up, it's leaned defense enough to notice after 6 drafts with McD. By now I would have expected Beane to make the case that their franchise QB needs more than what they've given him to work with. They'll go offense this year, but it'll be a day late and a dollar short. They needed that help earlier and it probably wouldn't have been a big loss to the defense.

I'd like to see McD go Tommy Lasorda. As in, being asked what how he felt about Dave Kingman hitting 3 homers against the Dodgers once. We're due for a McEruption at some point.

Some day people will realize that better RBs behind a bad OL does not improve an offense. Even a decent RB behind a decent OL aren't as value-added. On second thought...no, they never will. Fantasy football, among other things, has ruined it. That, and people continuing to live in 1985 who never see the changes occurring in pro football these past 10 years.

Can't be any worse than Colin Brown in 2013. Well, that's a low bar...ideally would want him much better.

Posted within 3 minutes of each other. I rest my case.

That's too late because this was the go-for broke season...Josh in his prime, they signed Miller, and their cap space is gonna be a challenge in 2023 to make the kinds of moves you know need to happen. Not their fault Miller went down, but that OL might be worse than it was last year. When multiple players do not work out that's an indication something is amiss above field level. It's one thing if you're first round DE or OT aren't immediate impact starters, but they took a RB and he's only getting 22% of the snaps. Bigger issue is, as others have noted here, their UFA offensive signings over the years have been mostly duds. Hopefully the off-season doesn't begin for Buffalo until February 13, 2023.

I am beginning to think Teef and Royale Cheesy are just Siamese twins with their own computers in mom's basement. Has the meatloaf come down yet?

Nah dude...you didn't like the answer so you've decided to throw a temper tantrum. Keep pounding that sand.

You see the big picture when it supports your fanhood...in this case the team that's beaten Buffalo these last 2 years having a clunker. When the Bills win a SB I'll give them the benefit of the doubt after a performance like KC had versus Houston. KC has been to the SB and won it. The Bills, especially on the road, have struggled the last 3 playoffs. Some of you in your fanhood don't get that trust in coaching and players is earned. McBeane haven't got there...yet.

Cope harder cheesy.

When did TBD become enamored with congratulating former Bills who never made it here? But while we're at it...I want to congratulate Jason Peters for continuing to make Russ Brandon look a complete clown on his way to Canton. Not many 40 year olds playing OT for a playoff team and getting meaningful snaps.

This is just a heavy dose of quibbling. Going 11-3 and winning the division is nice...the standard for 2022 has always been to get the #1 seed heading into the playoffs. Just saying we're in a good place now while putting the head in the proverbial sand isn't a view I share because... The idea last off-season was to improve the running game to alleviate the reliance on Josh. But it's now clear these last 4 games they need Josh running to keep the offense going. That was on display against a lower ranked MIA defense. Josh is running the ball almost 10 times each of these past 4 games. That's on McBeane....they are responsible for not giving him the protection and skill players to allow him to win from the pocket.

I don't understand how you can make the first observation and then make the 2nd, 3rd, perhaps 4th, 5th, and 6th. Last off-season on offense McBeane were all about reducing Josh's carries and here we are back to needing him to run to manufacture offense again. They whiffed on the UFA OL signings and they're still not strong running the ball. Cook may catch passes, but you want more from a 2nd round RB. Sum is that the running game is still not good and they lack the 3rd receiver. Perhaps they're trying to make up for it with better pass-catching RBs but they've also spent a lot getting those guys. They are 11-3, but seeing them scrape by against Miami at home is a harbinger of things to come in the playoffs. Miami is no pushover, but Buffalo is likely to face better (KC, CIN) in the playoffs at some point

Josh willed this team to victory tonight. But the more shots he keeps taking the shorter his career is going to go and most of that issue is on McBeane. Those two need to figure out how to align offensive strategy with better personnel and not more RBs. And they knew it last year, but still threw token attention there. Rodger Saffold, Quessenberry, et al. aren't a commitment to offense.

Josh must not be able to see him in those 7 starts. Those OLinemen on the right side are pretty hard to see over.

Best season with the Bills as a metric means nothing. He was a WR3 in 2020, mostly in 2021, and now he's a 2, so of course his surface level stats would improve. With a true franchise QB, he's had less than 40 yards receiving in 7 of his 12 starts this year. WR2's with catch rates hovering around 53% aren't a victim of not being targeted.

The original post here was talking up the play of DaQuan Jones and how that was a great Beane signing. That's one of those mid-range deals the Bills have taken on several times going back to McD's start. Some have been excellent, though the investment in the DL to be 8-9 deep has value, but is more about the HC's defensive strategy. Few teams actually do this, yet there is no indication Buffalo will look to be more cost effective there and as it stands, they'll spend somewhere around 20% of their cap there next season.

I'm not pointing at you with that reasoning, but it's popular here with some. The 7 I referenced are: Miller, White, Hyde, T. Johnson, MIlano, Oliver, and Jones (he of 8.6M). If you assume they'll re-sign Oliver, then your wish to see offensive upgrades just took a hit. What do you think Oliver gets? I wouldn't be surprised if he clocks in with Jonathan Allen type extension of 18M AAV. I'm not implying their spending on defense inhibits offensive spending, I'm saying it's reality. Most Bills fans wish away problems by saying the cap will go up...but they've never paid a QB in the cap era 1/6th of their cap either. That consideration means something has to give. The defensive scheme needs to become lower cost while retaining the same or similar value. Buffalo can't go out and sign UFA's on defense like they have these past few years, improve the offense, and pay Josh. They ain't got the money nor have the players to re-structure to free the amount necessary to do all these things. They've already re-done Dawkins and Tre's deals in the last few months.