Captain Hindsight

Who is Craig Urbim? To your post, Orton has been a 500 QB his entire career and will continue to be that. Could we do worse? Yeah sure, but we can also do a lot better. Personally, I'm sick and tired of trying to convince myself this is a good team. Until they prove it, they are the same old Bills

We can hope!

He just needs to work out the timing with his receivers

One man's opinion

This place is doomed

Any idea what he did?

You can do that yourself if you go to manage ignore preferences under your name at the top right

Didn't like the move when they made, but it was the right move. This team is better off without him. he was slowly getting more of a malcontent last year and it was time to move on We needed a new whooping boy anyway

I'd take top 15

I don't remember everything that was going on, but as I remember, he was suspended by the team, reinstated, then after public backlash, he agreed to step away with pay. IIRC it wasn't an ultimatum but again I don't really remember

I get what you are saying and you make a valid point. It is really tough to make these types of calls and I don't envy Roger (besides his paycheck). I just think they botched some situations lately with Rice, Hardy and now AP. To me his original agreement to step away with pay basically said they would reinstate him after his case was resolved and I assumed there would be a stiff fine on top of it. Time served comes to mind. What I think this does is basically encourage players to keep playing instead of stepping away. If you are going to get suspended anyway, why do the NFL a solid? Thats my thinking as to why this makes little sense. They should have just suspended him outright if that was their plan. JMO As to your final point, I got into a very heated argument at the vikings game with a fan wearing an AP jersey after he gave me **** for wearing an EJ jersey. My main argument was, the guy I'm wearing isn't a great QB. The guy your wearing beat a 4 year old. How can you support that clown? (Other words were used)

If thats the case he will continue to struggle. He's got no chance

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be punished, just surprised by the outcome. The NFL does seem to be flying by the seat of their pants though. I do have an issue with that

I though for sure he would forfeit a few game checks and play on sunday. Consider me shocked

Eric Decker

To me it looks more about confidence and timing. Just a bit unsure so he hesitates. Love to see him just go and rip it, because he has the talent. I agree with his detractors on one point, if he can't play with confidence, he cannot be a starter week in and week out. His arm talent is fine, he can make every throw at this level. He plays tight, just let loose EJ

One of my biggest pet peeves with the minimum wage argument. I realize some people make bad choices and that minimum wage probably isn't enough to live on, but if you don't like it, make yourself worth more.

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This is a good point. If we have a good QB then having a guy like Sammy helps a lot. Without a decent one, its pointless. Hopefully they figure it out soon.

I'm usually not an advocate for people to get fired, but Marrone needs to fire Hackett if he is to stay. The offense has too much talent to suck this much

Thats pretty stupid. People don't think sometimes

Im still watching this team just done trying to convince myself they are good

That guy that threw an INT to a defensive tackle? Yeah sounds like a steal