Captain Hindsight

Whose fault is that? Orton plays for himself. You know what i can't stand about this convo and people seem to be missing, Orton slides in a win or go home game. Stanton and Shaun Hill dive for the first down. Gotta have heart Call me crazy but I want the dude thats going down swinging.

That was cool. Thanks

Drew Stantons record is 6-3. He is currently leading the team with the best record in football in a division with the defending super bowl champs and everyones favorite coach. I'm supposed to feel better about our sucky QB play because two other teams, one of which is making the playoffs have bad QB's too? And both of them were backups at the start of the season. Shaun Hill was benched for Austin "I was a high school football coach last season" Davis earlier this year. Yes Orton isn't Geno Smith. But he's also not even Andy Dalton. After 15 years, I'm tired of rooting for mediocrity.

id be willing to bet he still sucks next year

Thats why I only talk Bills football here

I don't doubt Winston's talent. In fact I think he's amazingly talented. But he's a few cards short of a full deck and very likely to get in trouble in the pros like he did in college. He makes Manziel look like a choir boy

I hate blanket statements like this. What shows that Nassib is clearly better than EJ? He's barely played His stellar preseason stats against 3rd stringers? 74 44 588 59.5 7.9 5 6.8 0 0.0 73 1 3 107.3

He was pretty dreadful when asked to be the man in Carolina

The record suggests it has been better

Negative ghostrider Orton won 10 games his rookie year, then was benched for Grossman. He barely played the next 2 years before falling one game short of the playoffs in his final season with the Bears. With Denver he started 6-0 and finished 2-7 before being pulled. A 3-10 record the following season before being benched for Capt. Handoff and 1-4 before being benched for Tebowmania, subsequently cut and winning 2 games for the chiefs http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OrtoKy00.htm

To be fair, I think that was more McShay than Kiper Edit: I was wrong http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/19/mcshay-kiper-draw-their-final-battle-lines-on-jimmy-clausen/

Getting to 8-8 here is an accomplishment. We've had one winning season this entire century. Marrone has this team playing hard. If he had a QB, we'd all feel a lot different about Doug. I dont care if he's a nice guy or not. Belicheck and Harbaugh are dicks and people want them here

MW looked slow every play he was on the field this year. I have no idea the fascination with why he wasn't playing. He's lost it due to injury. A common tale many here just can't seem to grasp

Thats actually pretty scary

Thats actually pretty sweet

I'd be surprised if Geno is on a roster next year

Blame Canada!

If your QB can't hit his receivers.....

Jim Hostler Senior Offensive Assistant

Glad hes ok. Scary to hear a car flipping

Remember when high school sports mattered?

This^ Marrone has his worts, but he's the best we've had in a longggggggggg time

They have a QB

I got sick a few years ago eating McDonalds, sicker than I've ever been eating fast food. Since then I can barely look at it without feeling queasy. I will get a burger from Wendys or Burger King on occasion if I am traveling or something but I only get fries from McD's. Like others have said, I'd rather pay a few extra bucks at 5 guys or Chipotle or something like that than eat McD's/ BK/ Wendys. Also Chain restaurants like applebees, olive garden ext are awful. Rather spend the extra money/ time if I'm gonna go out

If I was starting a new team, Orton would be one the last choices I would take as my QB. Ahead of Geno, McCown,Shaun Hill, Locker/mettenburger With Joe Flacco we win the super bowl IMO