Albany,n.y.

Rosen was worse than just the 9 teams thing. Here's what he saide before that: I was pretty pissed off. I felt 1,2,& 3 went by and it just kind of went into a blur after that. I was really angry teams were passing on me and I was honestly expecting to get picked at some point and have to fake a smile and go up and pretend to be happy, but for some reason when I was picked all that went away and it went to straight excitement relief.

1) More proof QB stats, especially ratings are worthless in comparing QBs. 2) Arizona had a number of coaches they could have hired. I'm sure they talked it over with each candidate what to do with Rosen. They chose Kingsbury because he was the one who didn't want Rosen & said Murray fit his offense. Once Kingsbury was named coach the decision on Murray was made, there was nothing undecided by the time Kingsbury was hired. I guess the smokescreen worked on you because if they were in any way not sure they wanted to drop Rosen, they would have hired a coach with a more conventional offense that gave Rosen a chance. I don't buy for a second they would have kept Rosen if they had the 2nd pick, because the next 2 teams were not in the QB market & if they had beaten out the Cards for the top pick would have taken Nick Bosa who went 2nd. So at #2 Murray would have been on the board. 3) He got enough reps in 2019 in Miami & sucked both in practice & in the games they let him start over Fitzpatrick. He was 1 or 1A with Miami in 2019, so that goes down the drain. SF should have cut him either the day they signed Sudfeld or right after they drafted Lance. However, by then the pickings were already slim amomg teams left who would even give him a chance. If he's on anything other than a practice squad by September, I'll be shocked. There's a very good chance his only chance is in another league either the CFL, the XFL or the Spring League where Ryan Mallett ended up and they don't even pay their players any salaries.

Why do you think his teams draft QBs in the next draft after he shows up? In Arizona, he had a bad rookie year and based on what they saw on Sundays and in practice the team realized quickly the had drafted a bust & he was dealt after his rookie year because Arizona was smart enough to realize they could still salvage something for him before he was totally exposed. New coach Kingsbury was not going to risk his coaching career on Josh Rosen after watching the film on him & talking with team management about Rosen's rookie year. When he got to Miami he lost the starting job to Fitz. They came in on an equal footing and Rosen failed when he played. So, the Dolphins realizing that he wasn't the answer drafted Tua a year AFTER acquiring Rosen. Then when he was waived by Miami after nobody would even give them a 7th rounder & pick up his rookie contract, he couldn't find 1 team to sign him to their 53 man roster and had to sign on as a practice squad player with Tampa. Then SF got a slew of QB injuries and signed Rosen off Tampa's practice squad. The surprising thing is why SF bothered to re-sign Rosen. My guess is at the time SF signed Rosen in February the only other QB on the roster was Jimmy Garoppolo, who they were thinking of trading if they could get a decent return (especially by NE before they drafted Jones) and viewed him as a camp body. Then in March they make the deal for the #3 pick, obviously to draft a QB & then in early April before the draft they signed Nate Sudfeld, even giving him a signing bonus as opposed to Rosen who got nothing to sign for 2021. When they didn't trade Jimmy G Rosen's fate was almost sealed, but they wanted to see what they had before releasing him. Then after he has a very mediocre camp, he looks pretty bad in the 1st exhibition game throwing a very inopportune pick deep in KC territory with nobody close to the CB who caught the ball. That INT sealed his almost sealed fate at that point. Bottom line: If Rosen had shown even 1 team of the 4 he was on any promise, they wouldn't have viewed him as an afterthought & drafted a QB in the very next draft. Even Tampa, where he was a practice squad player didn't make any attempt to keep him when SF called him last year & then drafted Kyle Trask in the 2nd round.

Mike Glennon might have a case that he's better than Geno & Matt Barkley is still in the league. It wasn't that hard to figure out that 2013 was a dud class BEFORE the draft. The only ones who didn't figure that out were Nix & Whaley.

The XFL is coming.

Back in the days I had season tickets & used to run just about every day I used to get to drive 5 & park in the 1st row closest to the exit. It didn't matter which part of the row I was in because I could get out quickly from that row to the exit aisle & right to the exit. Now back in those days I used to drive back to Albany the same night so a lot of times I met my friends at the game & I was the only one in my car so I could run to my car. If I had a passenger back to Albany I couldn't run, but we still got out fairly quick. In later years, I now park on California near Southwestern & avoid any stadium lot traffic. I usually go home on Monday, because I stay over in Depew Sunday night but I always make it in plenty of time for dinner. I only go to 1 or 2 games a season these days. I've always found the best way is to either go straight down Rt 20 all the way to the Depew exit of the Thruway, past the large toll booths where the traffic can jam, or make a left on Union & then cut over to Transit either around West Seneca or Cheektowaga. There was one case where I would take the Thruway back in my running days: If the game was so tight that very few people left early, the roads would be empty. I'd run to my car, beat most of the traffic out of drive 5, right on Southwestern, left on Mile Strip to 219, get on 219 north & get on the Thruway. The whole key was it only worked when virtually nobody left early & the game was won on the last play, like a game winning field goal. I once made it home at 8:30 when the game ended on a field goal with 0:00 left on the clock.

All this because of a disagreement over whether Bojorquez or Hekker will win the punter/holder job. One guy said Bojo can't control his kicks & is a terrible holder and the guy in the Donald shirt went nuts. They better improve security by Super Bowl Sunday.

If you can get Hughes to agree to re-sign, you cut him at 53, then you can IR someone on the recall IR once you have the 53, then re-sign Hughes. Veterans are not subject to waivers & can get cut & re-signed to give a team short term roster relief. The Bils have done this before. The 1st time they did it was with Steve Tasker in the regular season many years ago.

Wow! I could have written this because I've been saying the same thing every time I hear someone say that Josh had a rough 2 years. Going back to 2018. I didn't really have an opinion when he was drafted, but after hearing camp reports I was on the bandwagon early. I went to opening day in Baltimore & my biggest disappointment was Josh didn't start. After the Vikings game I went to the mall & bought his jersey in a small sports store since the big ones like Dick's only had Giants & Jets jerseys in Albany. In 2018 he had nothing to work with. Not only were there no receivers, but the O-line was among the worst, if not the worst in the NFL, but may just have been the worst O-line in Bills history. Only 2nd year OT Dion Dawkins had any business starting in the league. I laughed when people were saying Josh Rosen had it bad in Arizona. Josh Allen had it just as bad or worse. Rosen at least had a HOF WR. Josh made Foster & Jones look good yet got no credit. All the anti-Joshers were looking at was the completion % and TD/INT ratio. What really drives me up the wall are the ones that said Josh was a question mark after 2019. I made some good $ betting on the Bills both in win over futures & games (4 of 5 wins on Bills games) in 2019 because I saw his will to win as a rookie & by his 2nd year, even though he had some down games, he was a lot more up than down. He dominated the Thanksgiving game in Dallas & I was able to tell my relatives they were watching the next great NFL QB. 2020 was predictable if you ignored stats & just watch him play his 1st 2 seasons.

All you freeloaders who get on my case because "everything you want to know is on the internet for free" need to either pay if you want to see something that isn't free or shut up & stop mocking people who are paying for stuff you can't see. You're the one who is sanctimonious, thinking you're above paying for things & expecting the world to just give you everything. Grow up!

During the Jets & Giants game the coaches each had 4th downs around the 40 yard line. Saleh went for it & even though they didn't make it he did the right thing considering it was preseason. Judge punted. I know it might be an overreaction, but at that point I wrote Judge off as a head coach. Who punts in preseason on 4th & short inside the other team's territory in pre season? I understand why the Jets did at the end because they were 4th & long and protecting the lead, but not early in the game where seeing your offense try to get a 1st down is more important than seeing what your punter can do. If you have no guts in preseason, you're too conservative to be a head coach in the NFL. The day the Giants fire Judge, in a year, two or 3, the reason was evident on 8/14/21 that he wasn't going to make it as the long term answer.

The gist is you need to stop being a freeloader. In another thread we had a debate over why I pay to read newspapers & some said they can get all their news for free. Why don't you ask them for their source so you can read it. If you can't then stop thinking you are above paying for information.

Next season the Bills are going back to Baltimore.

They've been practicing that play together for 5 years now & Zay finally caught the ball.

If they do, I'd advise they don't trade for Watson.

Let's all be thankful that the Dolphins drafted Tua instead of Justin Herbert.

How does Campbell expect the team to be healthy when they keep biting each other in practice?

The whole key is who they can have clear waivers. Davis might be easier to get on the practice squad without being claimed. As long as he's not claimed, Davis will be on the practice squad all year. Yes, they said so on the WGR postgame show.

Lions fired their head trainer. I have no clue what that's all about.

The line was a bunch of bartenders. The main guy was Fromm.

Grizz is nuts.

He was already deep in the Lions territory (in long FG range) after the long downfield throw to Stevenson on 4th down. They were purposely doing sideline passes to see if he could be accurate on late drives where you're just trying to improve the FG yardage. Regular season with Josh in there they run because they don't need to evaluate the QB.

Then you don't see what Fromm can do. Seeing Fromm throw was more important than worrying about situational football with most of the guys on the field being guys who won't be here in September. They have a big decision to make on Fromm because Trubisky is on a 1 year contract & they want to see if Fromm can be the backup in 2022.

He was passing because he wanted to see Fromm throwing to win the game. He doesn't learn about Fromm by handing off. He did a lot of stuff you don't do during the season because the major point of preseason is cutting the right guys & not cutting the promising ones. Any doubts look at Wyatt Teller. They were going to cut him & traded him-big mistake that they don't want to make again.