Albany,n.y.

Come On Man! He had Roethlisberger his entire career & when Ben left after playing too long (it's tough to jettison a HOF QB), they had to pick a QB in a bad QB draft year. 2 years of not solving the QB is hardly QB woes when the rookie replacement failed. QB woes are the years in between going from Kelly to Allen. Really, what could the Steelers have done differently the past few years? The past 4 QB drafts have had pretty slim pickings, especially with the Steelers draft positions. When you figure out how to dial up 1-800-FRANCQB, let us all know, because once an established QB retires, there's no such thing as an easy replacement, especially in recent draft years.

I'm sure the Chiefs saw this & are now contemplating signing him.

Considering the rest of the 2021 QBs and who was available in 2022, tanking for Trevor worked out a lot better than the other 1st round options.

I grew up in Long Island and my father didn't know how to get Giants or Jets tickets, so I never went to a football game as a kid. Then I went to Fredonia & heard such horror stories of the Rockpile I was afraid to drive my car to the stadium. So I didn't go to a game until Rich Stadium opened. That, plus the fact that we'd all go to the TV set in the lobby area of our dorm on Sundays and watch the Bills hooked me. I eventually lived in the Orchard Park in 1977 & walked to the 1st 2 games, but they were so bad & I wasn't making much, so I'd listen to all the games on my radio (blacked out on TV). I moved back to Buffalo in 1980 for 3 years & went to most home games, and in Dec 1982 I left permanently, 1st going back to LI, then Albany. Once I moved to Albany I started going to a lot of games & from 1991-2006 never missed a home game other than preseasons. I don't go to many games anymore because as you can tell from my story, I'm old. I still watch every game on TV & at places with Sunday Ticket.

JP had one of the best QB coaches in the league in Sam Wyche & still failed. Then he went to the UFL & was going to be "coached up" by offensive guru Jim Fassel and was still nothing upon his return to the NFL. JP was ruined by JP & nobody else.

If Williams doesn't work out, it's time for the Bears & Jets to be banned from drafting 1st round QBs. I'll repeat an unpopular belief of mine: Coaches don't ruin QBs, scouts & GMs ruin their teams with bad QB choices. It was never the Bills coaches who ruined EJ & JP, it was bad scouting. They would have been busts with any coach.

I'm not talking for anyone else but myself. I thought Josh was good in 2018 playing with horrible teammates on offense. I thought Josh was the long-term answer in 2018 because he was elevating the team to victories that most other QBs, especially the QBs of the drought years, couldn't do. I'm never going to be a fan of QB stats. I believe I can evaluate a QB a lot better watching him play than looking at a bunch of stats. I'll repeat what I've said through the years: There's a reason the pros look at film every week. Play on the field tells the story, not the stat sheet. If stats were so great, players & coaches would never spend as much time as they do looking at film. Instead at team meetings the coaches would hand out stat sheets & say "Go get 'em, boys!"

It's Mangini, he just can't quit the Jets even after all these years. So he goes on other AFC East teams message boards trying to relive the days they called him Mangenius in NY.

This is your problem: you're buried in stats. Meanwhile, those of us who watched both of them play every week could see a huge difference between Josh & EJ ON THE FIELD. Rookie Josh played behind one of the worst O-lines in team history and maybe had the worst group of WRs too. Robert Foster was the team's best receiver and after 2018 disappeared. Of course ,statistically Josh looked bad, but in the real world, On the field, there was no comparison. EJ would have been lucky to win 2 games with that horrible offense. Josh won half the games he started and finished.

I can't buy that. I never saw Marrone as jealous of his players. I saw him as a selfish guy who quickly realized EJ wasn't the answer & played Orton because he knew EJ was going to make him look bad & he wanted to look as good as possible, especially since he knew he could bail. As soon as Orton retired Marrone had no intention of sticking around & going down with EJ as his QB. If Marrone had Josh, he would have had a long career as Bills coach, and seeing him in practice every day would have never bailed.

Josh was not awful in his 1st 6 games. I remember the Bills dominating Minnesota as double-digit underdogs in Josh's 2nd career start. I also saw a lot from his 1st season behind no O-line & making a guy like Robert Foster look like a real NFL WR. As a rookie, I saw glimpses of greatness in rookie Josh that EJ Manuel never showed. Also Josh started 11 games including one he got hurt that Peterman blew, and it was almost miraculous that he willed a bad team to 5 wins in the the 10 games he started & finished. Here's another thing. In 2019 I was so confident in Josh I bet Bills futures before the season and won all my futures bets including the Bills making the playoffs. (You can look it up in the archives). Meanwhile when EJ announced that he was setting up stock in himself, I said I wish I had the money to short his stock after seeing him play. Maybe EJ looked better on paper, but on the field as rookies, Josh towered over EJ.

I'll never understand the love for Chan. The guy was a horrible head coach. He lost me forever when he punted from the opponent's 34 yard line.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/atlanta-falcons/news/atlanta-falcons-assistant-gm-passing-father-chargers-aj-smith/0fc26bbc75c1d162265c3ec6 I met him once at the gate at St. Francis High when his son Kyle (now assistant GM in Atlanta) was playing HS football. He showed me his AFC Championship ring. The reason I was at the gate was I used to go to all the Bills home games and my friend whose house I'd stay at was a teacher at St. Francis and enlisted me to work the gate with him at some of the Red Raiders home games. After AJ left to be GM in San Diego my friend had a minor heart attack and AJ heard about it & sent him a get well card from SD. Classy guy.

Now we know why Bill Belichick didn't get another coaching job.

That's his real 1st name, but he hated losing so much he dropped the L.

That's just a formality, they don't go into season 5 on their 5th year option. Only when they've missed significant time like Lamar Jackson is a QB left hanging by an organization that wants him.

Where do you think the expression "Speed Kills" came from? 😎

Actually, for QBs it's rarely used. If the player is a franchise QB, he gets extended after year 3, like Josh and many others. Only the QBs who have an injury history get the 5th year option. Meanwhile, the QB busts get jettisoned. Look at 2021: 4 QBs in the top 15 got dumped before the team even had to consider the 5th year option.

The player is either good enough to extend or not worth 1 more year with the 5th year option. What did the Bills really accomplish by using the 5th year option on Edmunds & then letting him walk? The goal is to get a guy who will earn a 2nd contract, not just 1 more year before he leaves because the team had to make a decision after his 3rd season.

That's ridiculous. The only time Beane used a high pick on a WR was trading a #1 for Diggs. Meanwhile, most of Beane's WR picks have outplayed their draft position. Just because he signed some #3s & #4s, to back up his top WRs, who didn't do much doesn't mean much when compared with his draft picks or picks used for trade.

JP Losman was the result of Donahoe not having the guts to offer enough to get into the top 10 and draft the QB he really wanted, Ben Roethlisberger. If Donahoe had offered enough to move up from 13, as Beane did later to move from 12 to 7, Bills history would be drastically different. So, by including JP Losman, you are supporting trading up. NOT trading up earlier in the draft was the problem, not the panic move for Losman when Donahoe lost out on Roethlisberger.

How could you not include JP Losman & EJ Manuel among the generational QBs? 😁

The Giants were thinking of signing OJ, but that dream ended before they could write the contract.

1st HOF acceptance speech in a tinfoil hat. He might even want a tinfoil jacket.

The only March Madness for me is that I can't watch the TV programs that it preempts on CBS. I don't do brackets because I know nothing about college basketball. I have no rooting interest since I have no affiliation with any of the teams that are playing. The only time a team from Albany or a city I've lived in in the past is in the tournament, it's one of the bottom seeds & exits quickly.