Albany,n.y.

I've always believed that except in rare cases where a coach exposes his QB to a severe injury, a coach cannot "ruin" a QB as many here believe. More likely is the QB ruins the coach with his bad play. Most QB busts are the result of bad scouting, not bad coaching. Anyone who thinks better coaching would have worked with JP Losman or EJ Manuel is excusing the people who scouted and drafted them. That said, there's a relatively new phenomenon that used to never happen: Early round draft choices who were basically on the scrap heap & considered busts are turning around their careers & becoming productive starters. They'll never reach Mahomes/Allen status, but they do recover later in their careers. The 1st was Geno Smith, followed by Baker Mayfield & Sam Darnold. Ironically, each awakened on his 4th team. So, while some would say they were ruined early on, none of these 3 QBs were permanently ruined. At best you can say they were stymied by bad coaching, but ruined, no.

Dream scenario: Bills have everything wrapped & the Jets need to lose to get the top pick & the Bills out-tank the Jets & cost the Jets the top pick in the draft.

I could be very motivated to get in the ring & beat Mike Tyson, but that wouldn't stop my funeral from happening the next day.

That's Howard Johnson's AKA HoJos. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Johnson's The Mets had a 3rd baseman named Howard Johnson. Harvey Johnson was a reluctant head coach, but Ralph would tell him to after he fired a head coach & needed someone quickly. The 1st time was in season, the 2nd time after John Rauch quit in preseason after a dispute with Ralph. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Johnson_(coach)

Hank Bullough & Harvey Johnson are looking down saying "Hold my beer."

My 2 picks are Seattle & Kansas City. I also thought GB was a lock too but used the other 2.

Allen would have had his toe cut off & then went back in the game😄.

That bench should be in the UFL.

He'll be back for the season finale begging the Bills to win so the Jets can get the #1 pick in the draft.

They aren't even letting him travel with the team: https://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/younghoe-koo-ruled-out-does-not-travel-for-falcons-week-2-game-vs-minnesota-vikings

When Dan Neaverth was the Bills stadium announcer, if there was a questionable call he'd announce it with an incredulous tone like "It's pass interference, against, Buffalo?????

The best "It's third down" ever was when Antonio Brown was going crazy vs the Jets & is stripping off his clothes & as he's in the endzone topless raising his hands the Jets stadium announcer says "It's third down" as Brown exits into the tunnel, with third down flashing above him on the scoreboard. https://www.google.com/search?q=Antonio+Brown+Tampa+at+Jets+meltdown&oq=Antonio+Brown+Tampa+at+Jets+meltdown&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigAdIBCjIxMDk4ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBbOg9byrwfby8QWzoPW8q8H28g&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:ab246392,vid:XwarRhsTSNw,st:0

Link: https://www.buffalobills.com/video/buffalo-bills-legends-steve-tasker-thurman-thomas-host-first-ever-tailgate-at-new-highmark-stadium

Harbaugh gets the blame for the Ravens many blown leads, but people seem to forget that it usually starts with a mistake by Lamar.

The ball was at the 38 yard line. When was the last time you saw a team on their own 38 with a 2 point or 1 point lead risk immediately putting a team in FG range with about 1 1/2 minutes left on the clock needing 3 yards for a 1st down? If you can find one where the team went for 3 yards at that point of the game & succeeded, let me know. The only coach I've seen do stuff like that was Staley with the LA Chargers & stuff like that got him fired. Edit: I looked up something & I was wrong on the analytics. I can see your point on this basis, but I still can't agree: After the game, analytics showed that the move to punt was the incorrect one. ESPN Analytics calculated that the Ravens' win probability was 81.4% if they had gone for it on fourth down, but dropped to 73.2% when they punted. The second-guessing in this specific situation shows why a coach would consider going for it, even in such a dangerous position.

Another one : Jets SNL

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Here's another reason there's no rivalry that we old guys remember: It's hard to hate the team that gave the AFL credibility. The Jets victory in Super Bowl III was a victory for every AFL team. The AFL players, including the Bills players, were all proud of the Jets for beating Baltimore and showing the NFL that they were not an inferior league. The Jets victory was an AFL victory.

Momentum? If the Bills had all the momentum, then they would have definitely stopped the Ravens before they could have gotten 3 yards. Less than a minute & a half, no time outs, starting at their own 20. 99% of all coaches punt rather than risking the game for a shot at making 3 yards on 4th down. I bet the analytics say punt 100% of the time. It's a lot different if you're up by more than 3, or if it's 4th & inches. Baltimore was up by 2. If they don't make it, it's almost guaranteed they lose the game on a late field goal. Punting was the only thing they could do. Let's agree to disagree, but I'd bet on every coach punting in that situation unless it's late in the season & his team is already eliminated from the playoffs or their playoff spot is locked in & cannot be improved.

Are there any safeties on the last year of a contract with a bad team that may be willing to trade them around the trade deadline?

While I think NO is one of the worst teams in the league, I couldn't risk Brock Purdy not playing & having to rely on Mac Jones at QB. I don't think it's clear who will be SF's QB on Sunday.

I don't think it's Lamar who has been smug towards Josh. It's his fanboys in the media who have been the ones who overrated Lamar over Josh.

I learned never to leave a game on 11/22/1981 vs NE when I was with a group & they made me leave because the driver was leaving. It was the famous Ferguson to Hooks TD with 5 seconds left and I can still hear the cheers coming from the stadium while we were in the parking lot. The only times I left a game early after that was when I had to catch a flight. One was a game in Buffalo vs Carolina when I had to catch a flight to NY for Thanksgiving week & the other was a game in Baltimore when they flexed the game to 4 from 1 & messed up my schedule & it was too late to change my flight after they flexed the game. I rarely go to games anymore but I never turn the TV off early-not even in preseason. Speaking of leaving games early, I remember the Bills 52-17 loss in Super Bowl XXVII when people were leaving a Super Bowl early. I couldn't believe how many people left that game early.

I have 2 entries in the pool I'm in. I picked Detroit & Baltimore. I had Arizona & Philly last week.

Going for it on 4th & 3 from your own 38 up by 2 would be insanity. Noi coach in his right mind would risk not getting 3 yards & basically already giving his opponent field goal range from their own 40 rather than making Josh start at the Bills own 20 with 1:33 left. It was 4th & 3, not 4th & inches.