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Going for it on 4th & 3 from your own 38 up by 2 would be insanity. Noi coach in his right mind would risk not getting 3 yards & basically already giving his opponent field goal range from their own 40 rather than making Josh start at the Bills own 20 with 1:33 left. It was 4th & 3, not 4th & inches.

I've hated QB ratings of any kind ever since Rob Johnson had a higher QB rating as a Buffalo Bill than Jim Kelly had as a Buffalo Bill.

They IR'd Carter & Bass, Franklin only filled 1 spot when they did this.

We went into the Ravens game with a 52 man roster in anticipation of doing this after week 1 to avoid guaranteeing Prater's salary. Might be the same reason we waited until week 2 to sign Johnston.

They didn't go for it because up 2, you don't go for it on your side of the field & practically put the other team in line for a game winning FG if you don't make it. It wasn't 4th & inches. If they went for it & failed, Harbaugh would have been tarred & feathered in Baltimore. The Bills started around their own 20 after the punt & still drove it all the way down the field quickly, but most non-Allen led teams would never have scored after the punt with limited time on the clock. You go with the percentages & trust your D to stop a team from their own 20 rather than try to make it on 4th down over a yard in that circumstance. I doubt no matter how much Lamar would have lobbied to go for it, that Harbaugh would have done anything other than punt.

Josh Allen is & always has been a statistician's worst nightmare.

I was hoping to see Hancock take over but the fact he was inactive tonight means he isn't ready yet.

We practically have been here before. 10/2/22 Bills at Baltimore. Early on Baltimore is dominating. Eventually it's 20-20 late in the game but the Ravens are driving inside our 10 & about to go ahead late in the 4th quarter. I was in the endzone they were driving to & I turned to a Ravens fan & said "I don't care if you score here, we're still going to win the game". Lamar throws a pick in the endzone, Bills drive all the way down the field, run out the clock deep in Baltimore territory almost identical to tonight and Bass kicks the game winner as time runs out on the Ravens.

As is just about every coach who made the HOF on the back of a HOF QB. HOF QB's make the coach.

I'm going to be watching both 1:00 games on local TV. Giants & Jets. I have 2 TVs near each other in the living room. I'll probably have the sound on the Jets game unless the Giants game is better after play starts.

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/wyoming-cowboys-quarterback-josh-allen-scrambles-against-news-photo/899432828 Scroll down past the large image that 1st appears in the link

They did a good job scheduling the event. The Bills are playing a Thursday Night game & Josh is free that weekend.

I don't know if I've ever been to that one. I've been to a lot of OTBs in WNY through the years. The one I used to go to most was the one on Tonawanda St in Riverside when I lived right over the Tonawanda town line on River Road in the early 1980s. There was a laundromat across the street so I could do my laundry & bet at the same time. In the mid 70s I was always at the Dunkirk OTB. After I graduated from Fredonia, I decided to stay in the area for another year, and I was working the night shift at Dunkirk Ice Cream & hanging out at OTB in the afternoon. They laid me off in September & wanted me back for some shifts. They couldn't get me at the house I was renting a room at, so they sent someone to OTB to tell me to report to work at midnight.

I haven't watched a football game on an illegal feed since 2020, but I did most weeks during the height of the pandemic because a lot of the places with the NFL Sunday ticket were closed down or too crowed to feel safe at. The main reason I haven't since 2020 is because just about all the places I watched the feeds on got shut down. I think the league was a little more lenient in 2020 due to the circumstances. I would never pay an illegal site for their feed, mainly because of the risk of it being shut down, but I have no problem watching a free bootleg site. I'm lucky because where I live we get a lot of Bills games on home TV & when we don't, I can go to OTB where I can get in for free wearing a Bills jersey (otherwise it would be a $1 or $2, depending on one's age-I'm old so it's $1 for me). There I can sit in a booth with a personal TV where I can listen to the sound, unlike most sports bars. I used to watch a site that had just about every TV show from the premium cable networks as well as Canadian & UK networks. It was great. Then one day I went to watch a show & the place was shut down.

I'll take a wait & see attitude on Johnson & see what he does long term before I crown him. I remember when Daboll went to the Giants as the great QB whisperer & got coach of the year & Jones who he "fixed" got a big $ contract. Now Daboll is on one of hottest seats in the league. As with any 1st year coach, I need to see results, not even just one year, before thinking he can turn a team or a QB around.

I saw his obituary in today's Buffalo News.

I think that there should be a pinned thread as a tribute to the fans you know who didn't live long enough to see it. I know the one who will be in my tribute & I'm sure there are many posters who can think of who to mention when the Bills win. I just hope I'm one of the posters and not one of the subjects.

The thing costs around $600. Not exactly being marketed to guys on the couch watching football.

2025 version of 2017 Anquan Boldin with the Bills.

Vontae Davis in season record still stands.

There was a game with no announcers:

If you're really old fashioned, NFC games belong on CBS & AFC games belong on NBC.

I took a bus trip from Albany to that game. It was the 1st time I ever told anyone that Josh would end up in the Hall of Fame. A Jets fan on the bus was mocking Josh's accuracy, and I told him that Josh was better than Sam Darnold and that Josh would be a Hall of Famer. He just laughed at me, but as the years go by, I wonder if he remembers my prediction.

That's my vote. It's the only time I've ever been on an NFL field. I didn't participate in the goal post coming down, but I was at the game with someone who wanted to take pictures from the field. My 2nd favorite is a game the Bills got destroyed in. Opening day in Baltimore in a rainstorm, 9/9/18. I got to see Josh Allen's official debut as an NFL QB. As a bonus I also saw Lamar Jackson's 1st game. The Bills lost 47-3, but from the moment Josh Allen entered the game in the 3rd quarter, I had hope for better things in the future.

Marv had the best take on the locker room at Jim Kelly's HOF induction: Leadership, was he good in the locker room? Heck no, his locker was a mess! Our equipment managers Hojo and Woody were good in the locker room; Jim led by his actions out on the playing field.