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Hey Bills fans...especially those in the tri-state area. I am going to the game tomorrow night, but had a friend back out on me. So I have an extra ticket for tomorrow's game in the meadowlands. I'd rather have it go to a Bills fan if possible. So, It's free of charge to the first poster who responds that they want it and can make it to the game. Only caveat is you have to sit next to me . We could meet up outside the gate at the stadium before the game tomorrow to get you the ticket. First come, first served! (Seats are up high...section 339, but like right down the 50 yard line...so viewing is very good.)

Love that Guy! He is the epitome of everything you want in a football player, in a leader, in a role model, in a friend, in a parent, etc. I said in a post last week, "why wait for retirement, put Kyle on the Wall now!" Let's get this guy not just a playoff appearance, but a solid playoff run. (Wish we could have done the same for Freddie.) I've enjoyed watching a lot of Bills players during the drought years, but there are three players (over the last 17) that stand out to me as true Bills and deserving of being on the wall of fame: Kyle Williams Fred Jackson Brian Moorman (in that order)

Late to the party here, but I am over the moon. KB is a legit #1 WR. I've had a bunch of Carolina guys on my keeper team over the last 4 or 5 years, so I've watched a lot of Carolina's games in that time. And I love this kid...so happy he's a Bill. He did hurt his knee in week 3, but has been playing through it. Yes, a WR who will play through his injuries (if not too serious). He tweaked the knee again two weeks ago, but played through it. So, the knee does bare watching, but I can't imagine they would have let him play if there was the threat of further injury. So, hopefully it's on the mend and nothing to worry about. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!

I will be there! Go Bills!

Thanks Ice...it was a heart-attack ending for sure. This team believes in itself. It's nice to see. Hope the bye week helps the Pack retool and rebound from the loss of Rodgers. (And not just because I need Jordy to keep scoring for my fantasy team. )

I grant you your point...but he is a rookie from a small school in his 6th game. Of course he is still working/struggling on doing some of those things consistently at the pro level. I just think we need to have some patience with him. I only wanted to point out to those who may have complained about drops in this particular game that it was really just one bad drop. You still don't want that, but it wasn't as bad as 2 of 9 seems. I really think this kid will come around. And I'm a fan of Tyrod and Zay. They are Buffalo Bills. I want all of our players to succeed. It's ok to talk about where they need to improve or if they should get more or less playing time, etc., but If they're happy to be a Bill and working hard, I'm rooting for them.

I was going to say the same thing. Don't give up on Dareus yet people. I don't think he is a malcontent as has been rumored. Maybe he needed some tough love, but McDermott is the kind of guy to do it right. Two points: 1. As DaBillsFan said, Marcel made the tackle on the last long lateral play of the game. He was right there at the end fighting. 2. Watch Marcel's face during Kyle's postgame speech (linked above) he looks happy, engaged, he keeps saying "yes sir" to all of Kyle's statements. I love how McDermott is running this team. And as for Kyle, why wait for retirement, put him on the Wall now!

I just watched the game back on gamepass and took a look at the throws to Zay. From what I could see, he caught 2 of 9 targets...which doesn't look great, but... 4 passes were completely uncatchable/no where near him (bad throws by Tyrod due to pressure or whatever) 1 catch on the sideline where he was draped by a CB, could have made the catch, but it would have been a tough/great catch. There was the one miss on the throw to the endzone, where he got tripped up by the CB's feet, so I don't put that one on Zay. 1 bad drop, no excuse 2 catches: one for a first down another for 7 tough yards in the redzone. When you actually look at the plays, he didn't have 7 drops, he had 1 drop and one contested play that maybe he could have made. It wasn't as bad as 2 of 9 appears.

Give the kid a break. He's a rookie in his 6th pro game. He's just a little inside his own head right now. It's not his fault that he was drafted to a team with a weak WR corps and he was forced to be a number 2 and then number 1 receiver (with Matthews and Clay down) right out of the gate. That's a lot of pressure for a kid coming from a small school. If we had at least two solid threats ahead of him and he was eased into a slot receiver role, his development would have probably been better, without so much pressure. But despite his drops, he's getting valuable starting experience. He just needs to gain Tyrod's trust back and catch some passes to get his own confidence back. How anyone can call a player a bust after 6 games is beyond me. Honestly, how many draft picks 2nd round or lower each year bust out right away? Many receivers don't fully get it until their third year. For the love of God, let the young players develop before you run them out of town.

As far as this incident goes, no big deal. He went out there to protect someone close to him (on the other team) thinking he could get his teammates to back off before something happened. That might not go over well in the Raiders locker room, but I don't think his intentions were bad. He wasn't running out there to start fighting. However, rules are rules. He did leave the bench and shove an official. He was right to be penalized, ejected, and fined. That ref doesn't know that he's cousins or whatever with Peters, so in the moment, he can't assess his intentions. Just like the Von Miller/Tyrod Taylor psyche play. In that moment, the ref doesn't know that they're friends and just joking around, so he assumed the intention was something else. You can't expect refs to know the players relationships with each other. BUT...those who don't understand why many people don't like Marshawn obviously do not remember his time in Buffalo. I don't know the guy personally and people who do say he's a great, funny guy. But from the outside when you see him hit a woman with his car and then flee the scene (not even waiting to see if she is ok) and try to not get caught for it, when he brings his own liquor to bars (very disrespectful to local businesses), when he would (be it some kind of joke or not) intimidatingly corner people in bars and demand that they give him twenty bucks, when he can't get over himself with the media (as bad as they can be), when he talked bad about the Bills or Buffalo (back at that time), arrested for illegal gun possession, DUIs, etc., it is no wonder some football fans don't have warm fuzzy feelings about the guy. Maybe he has matured since his days in Buffalo, maybe not. But I was glad when he was traded and no matter how well he played for Seattle, I never wished we had kept him. I want to like the guys that I root for (like the guys on this McDermott team). Marshawn may be a great guy to the people in his life or in his community, but from the outside he doesn't appear like a great guy or appear to extend common courtesies to people outside his circle. I could be wrong and I'm not condemning the guy, everyone deserves second chances...but there are very solid reasons why some fans don't like him.

If the refs had called a fair game, Jets win this one comfortably. Beyond the S-F no TD that directly took points off the board, the refs also picked up two flags against the Pats, didn't call the obvious pass interference on Gronk in the endzone, etc. They may call some make-up calls at unimportant junctures of the game, so the number of penalties at the end of the game looks balanced, but the Pats always get the calls that have a big impact on the outcome of the game when they are playing non-Marquee teams.

Rhino...Sammy may have elite ability and elite potential (you probably won't find many to disagree with that) but you can not call him an elite WR in this league. At least not yet. With 4+ years in the league this is what you are getting from Sammy: 10 games played per season / 61 yds per game / .45 TDs per game over a season, that would equate to 610 yds and 4 or 5 TDs. That is good for a 2nd WR, great for your 3rd WR, but does not equate to elite. If he played 16 games with those averages, it looks better with 976 yards and 7 TDs which is very good, but still not elite. Add in his availability issues to date and his possible "me" centric attitude and I doubt there are many teams who would have given us more than what we got for him. No one was giving up a 1st rounder for that production. To think that every other front office would pay top dollar (money-wise or trade-value-wise) for Sammy is naïve. Most GMs and coaches are conservative and don't pay for potential (they may draft for it, but you don't give up too many assets for it). Yes, Sammy has big potential and if he stayed healthy for a whole season and had good QB play in the right scheme, no doubt he could be elite. But there is no way he can be considered that at this point in his career. Elite potential means nothing until you prove it on a consistent basis. Plenty of guys have had potential and it never quite panned out in the league. To be elite you have to be available and consistent. So far we have seen a few games in his rookie year, one game for the Rams this year, and that 8-10 game stretch in 2015. That equates to less than 1/4 of his playing career thus far where he played at an elite level. I like Sammy, even drafted him in Fantasy because I thought he would break out now that he's healthy and maybe he will eventually reach elite status, but as of now, no, he is not an elite receiver and I think the Bills made the right call moving on from him...even though we could use him now. It was the right move for this team at this time.

That article is sexist...what about Helen Hunt?

I'm surprised that some posters are saying Humber had a bad game in Carolina. I think maybe you are letting ONE play (against a really elusive player no less) where he missed the tackle overshadow what was otherwise an excellent game for him. The guy had 11 tackles, 7 of which were solo tackles in space. He was ballin' all over the field. Humber has been playing really well. I'm not sure what games some of you guys are watching.

I stepped away from the board for a couple of days and was surprised when I came back to still see so many posters kvetching. First of all, Sammy, Robert, Marquise, Hogan, Gilmore, Gilislee, etc. are gone. What is the point moaning over it, good decision or bad. Root for the guys who are here. McDermott and Beane are going to have a long leash. They aren't going anywhere soon, so let's give them more than two weeks to see what they are building towards. Secondly, what did some of you expect? It's a new coaching staff, an entirely new receiving corp, a new blocking scheme, a QB who had, what, one practice with his new receiver before week one and a rookie on the other side. Not to mention that most offenses struggled the first two weeks of the season this year. There was no way this team was coming out of the gate on fire. It was obviously going to take this team (the offense more specifically) at least a few weeks to start putting it together. Look at Miami last year (with a new head coach), they started out rough and still wound up in the playoffs. (No, I'm not saying the Bills will make the playoffs, but I'm also not automatically counting them out after just two weeks either, however improbable it may seem at the moment.) And with as many 4-6 win predictions as were made, I'm surprised people are so upset sitting at 1-1, no matter who we played. So many fans wanted us to tank, but are now upset at one loss? I assume those people are already chalking up this Broncos game as a loss too. Not me...Go Bills! Let's put the past behind us and take it one game at a time. We're on to Denver.

I think it is like another poster said upthread...we don't think Tasker is more deserving than TO, but having already picked TO as most likely and assuming that he is a lock (at some point), we chose Tasker for the most deserving category. Of course, we could have instead said TO most likely and most deserving and then made a case for Tasker separately.

Most likely: T.O. will and should get in. But, though it was fun having him for a season, I don't really think of him as a Bill. Most Deserving: Steve Tasker should already be in. When they talk about criteria for the HOF it usually comes down to two things, was the guy transcendent at his position and did he change the game. The answer to both is yes. Probably the best special teamer to ever play (outside of kickers) and he (along with Marv and guys like Mark Pike) made special teams relevant again at that time in the game. Teams had to game plan for him. And on a 4-time Superbowl team with multiple HOFs, his special teams play many a time, turned a game or won a game for his team. He had a huge impact and with so many fewer snaps than the guys starting on O or D. Chuck Knox should eventually get in. Great coach. Though his playoff winning percentage of .389 is probably what hurts his case. O-linemen are tough. It's hard to quantify their careers without solid stats and most people don't understand or watch line play enough to really compare one great O-lineman vs. another. No doubt Kent Hull and Reuben were soooo important to the Bills teams they played on. Kelly often says Hull is the one who really made that offense work. But were they more transcendent than other O-linemen who are in the conversation? I'm not sure. I guess as they said on the John Murphy show, you'd have to talk to the players they played against to stack them up. But I think it may be a tough road for them to get into the HOF. Not that they aren't deserving. Cornelius was a supremely talented athlete who made a lot of impact plays on a 4-time AFC championship team. I think he is on the bubble. But I'd be thrilled if he got in. Darryl Talley was not only the heart and soul of that 4-time AFC championship defense, but its brain and emotion as well. He still sits at 10th All-time in the NFL for total tackles (of all players since the 70s when they started keeping the stat). That stat alone should keep him in the conversation. Not sure if he'll ever get in, but imho, he should get in. Good luck to all of them!

​"All right. Where is the poison? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink, and find out who is right, and who is dead...You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders---the most famous of which is 'never get involved in a land war in Asia'---but only slightly less well-known is this: 'Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line!' Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..." - Vizzini

Has he ever called an audible and have you ever noticed him call an audible are two different things. I don't pretend to be an expert, but he audibled at least once in week one as the color commentator actually pointed it out.

This kind of post just kills me. I have no problem with posters who think that Tyrod has hit his ceiling and think it isn't good enough; that he won't improve the areas of his game where he is weak. Especially when they point out specifics about his game they have a problem with. I'm personally taking a wait and see approach for this year, yet I do think the team can win with Tyrod. But to just say he sucks and blows is not only pointless, it is wrong. First of all, no one in the league sucks. The worst guy on the worst team is a phenomenal athlete. Secondly, the team won today and Tyrod played well. 222 yds passing, 43 yds. rushing, and 2 TDs is at least adequate, not sucking. If you're actually going to root against the QB of the team that you follow, you can at least discuss what specifically he did in today's game that bothered you. Ya know, actually add to the discussion of football.

Feel bad for him...nice kid and a good ballplayer. Wish him the best!

Good night: Helped their cause Here is who stood out to me (in no particular order) Nathan Peterman Joe Banyard Brandon Reilly Trae Elston EJ Gaines Gerald Hodges Greg Maybin Matt Milano Nick O'Leary Logan Thomas Ian Seau Eddie Yarbrough Jonathan Williams

This. Great analogy BuffaloHokie13.

It was my junior year of college. I had just been home for Christmas and was at Rich Stadium for both the Kelly/Marino 44-34 showdown in the snow and the 51-3 dismantling of the Raiders in the AFC Championship game (thank God for brothers-in-law with season tickets). For Superbowl Sunday, I was back at school in Boston. I had a huge party in my apartment on Charles Street. I went to an arts college, so there were very few sports fans there. But, around 30-40 friends who couldn't have cared less about football came and rooted for the Bills just because they knew how much it meant to me. There were two friends from NYC (also not football fans) who started rooting for the Giants, just because it was New York. And as Norwood's kick went up, about 20 of us were all holding hands...and then, UGH! Like Charlie Brown after Lucy pulls that football away. The last things I remember from that night (from my last somewhat sober moments) were holding my face in my hands as my friends tried to console me and one of my roommates trying to kick out our two friends who were still cheering for the New York win.