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Romo is great. Insightful and likeable. And I suspect Barbarian is right about CBS.

I wouldn't want to trade Glen if he can get to a place where he is healthy most of the time. If we judge he can't, I'd consider trading him to move up if it would get Rosen. Your take is plausible, though I still wonder if Denver would be amenable. I'm likely to change my mind a lot once more scouting stuff comes out -- I'm not at all an expert on qb -- but I like Rosen and Mayfield the best. I'm guessing Darnold stays in school. I'd take Jackson if he fell to us; I don't think you have to trade up to get him.

Why wouldn't you just trade with SF? I think Denver knows they don't have a qb worth keeping on their roster. They are the competition.

They should hire Kevin Sumlin. A&M is ridiculous for letting him go. He's won plenty there.

Correct. OP talks about qb longterm, which implicitly refers to the 2018 draft. Those who are making it about this year are bad at reading or just want to perpetuate a useless and redundant argument.

Yep, but for some holding this view makes one a "hater."

Alright, I think making those kind of distinctions is a sign of intelligence. You think its a sign of bias. Have fun with that.

No one's complaining about the win, so far as I can see. And the Chiefs are plummeting -- losing to the Giants was indicative, so one has to contextualize first in their division.

I didn't say it doesn't matter. I responded to a sorta argument that made Taylor not throwing picks the singular basis for assessing his value.

If not throwing picks is all that matters, just don't throw the ball. Silly, reductionist argument. It's excellent that we beat a struggling team on the road. Doesn't validate TT as anything more than the most adequate qb currently on the roster. Most folks have figured this out.

You had to say it

I think if you are perceived to have a franchise qb, it makes it a lot easier to persuade potential free agents to join up.

I think the difference is hockey drafts 18 yr olds that need years to develop. I think an NFL team can rebuild more quickly, but we are certainly starting with a roster largely bereft of talent.

Most folks would be fine with TT as a bridge qb if we had a plausibe, high draft pick potential franchise qb waiting in the wings.

Well, I mostly agree, but you better use some draft capital or free agency to improve the o-line as well.

No one can reasonably argue with this. I am not confident this regime knows what it is doing. I did not like the Sammy trade or the Dareus trade, but you can't judge a vision before new players are brought in. Lots of new scouts; hopefully, they know what they are doing. I'm really hoping they know how to evaluate qb.

I think you have more of an agenda than you admit or perhaps recognize, but that's fine with me. You bashed Tyrod's awful play against the Saints, so good for you. I don't really care who plays qb this year. I'm not interested in getting into the playoffs as a marginal wild card team in a year where the AFC is pathetically weak. If one does care about that, Taylor makes more sense. I thought Peterman might fit Dennison's offense better, but the oline is so bad you need a fella with Taylor's athleticism.

Sure, and every year about this time, folks start figuring Bills' wild card odds and wondering if we will finally get a qb in the next draft that can play.

They really need to fix the O-line. Tyrod is not a good qb, imo, but he makes the execrable line look better than it is, which is not to say he makes them look good. I don't think it is doing Peterman a service throwing him back out there if they can't protect him. DIfficult to have confidence in this regime, but we're stuck with it so hoping for the best.

That is a nice hockey sweater -- and royal blue is simply the only color the Sabres should rock. Too bad the team is awful.

I would absolutely make that trade, but I suspect Rosen will go #1 overall. I'm not really sure that's enough and if it's the Browns or Giants, I think they just take Rosen.

Implicit in the argument is actually drafting a franchise qb. Obviously, there is risk, but what we have is not good enough.

Don't care about the 5 yr contract. Seat will be flaming, not "a little hot." Giants are almost certain to take a qb and if the Colts aren't sold on Luck returning to health, they may be looking as well. Browns, Cards, Jets, if you go through the league, lots of teams need qb. I agree Bears and 49ers are potential trade partners; Colts, too, if they are okay with Luck.

Depressing analysis going on here and it's difficult to find any room to disagree. I am largely in the both coaching and talent camp. Better hope the new scouts are really good at finding gems and the coaching staff figures out how to coach talented players that sometimes require putting up with rather than trading them off for low round draft picks.

Well, he's not my first choice. I'd rather trade up and get Rosen -- probably not happening. I prefer Mayfield if he falls to us. Jackson has a chance, though, and I'd take him. If Brownies let Hue Jackson go, I think he'd make a fine OC.