Dr. Who

Even your proposed counter-offer seems like too much to me. I certainly agree with the assessment of the putative deal as currently imagined. Oh, and I also concur with the rationale for using FA money to build around a cheaper, younger qb.

Her father had much more talent than either of his children. Demerits for Hanoi Jane, but Barbarella is ridiculous, campy fun, so I forgive her.

Sounds a bit like Rich Gannon. For the right price, I could be persuaded, but it sounds like lots of money and draft picks could be involved.

And even then, I don't really want him. I dunno. He doesn't seem like a clutch qb or the sort that can elevate those around him. Maybe I am wrong. He's not my last choice, but not my first. I am ambivalent, but I definitely don't want to trade a boatload of picks to get him. And if Shady is right, why would we?

Well, I don't know about that, but the voices in my head say you are definitely a figment of my imagination.

Yeah, Smith is not a gunslinger with a noodle arm. Still don't want him.

So, the surmise here is that Leroi is DD's source if he is in fact legit? QB evaluators seem to still be following the old school parameters . . . the sort of criteria that brought us EJ. (And I liked EJ and held out hope much longer than most.) Nevertheless, Cousins, Smith, and Darnold, who we will not be in a position to draft most likely does not sound like a good plan to me. Personally, I would not dismiss Mayfield from consideration.

I'm not high on Allen, but he's not getting out of the first round.

Too many question marks to be comfortable taking Allen where he is likely to be taken.

Same name. I'm not clever enough to figure out alter egos most of the time.

JeffisMagic is a big Mayfield fan. So am I, for what it's worth.

Not even sure Housley returns next year we are so bad.

Double ugh. Don't want Smith if you have to trade picks to get him and Rudolph is an average arm, below average decision making fella with superior wr corp in a bad defense conference.

He's not that good. Okay arm, not great decision making, several pros in his wr corp in a conference that doesn't play defense. OTOH, he might be there in the second round.

I'll grant that the folks who liked Orton will swoon over Smith.

It's a plausible scenario, I suppose. Alex Smith will be 34 next season. I'd be alright signing him if we also drafted a potential franchise qb, but I don't think he's anything more than a better bridge qb. I really doubt the fanbase would be enthused about the notion of Alex Smith for the next four to five years. It might work, but I am skeptical.

I liked this post until you mentioned Alex Smith.

The latter is about as likely as the Bills beating the Pats*.

Imo, where the OP has the most cogency is in regards to securing a franchise qb. It's the most important position in football and we don't have one. Losing enough to get Rosen or Darnold would have increased the chances the team is good for a long time. Obviously, you can find a franchise qb outside of the top picks, but it is harder. Also, if you have two mid to late first round picks, you probably end up having to package them if you want the third qb off the board. This is a problem when you have lots of holes. Once you have the franchise qb, then those who stress continuity and solid drafting no matter where you are picking are generally correct.

Thanks. I was having trouble getting in the holiday mood.

If that happens, I am going out and buying a lottery ticket.

Yes, this is what I am expecting. But losing out isn't going to appreciably help our draft status and thus, somehow contribute to getting a true franchise qb. Hence, I am back to hoping for the improbable. Just almost impossible to even imagine beating the Pats* when I suppose they will still be trying because #1 seed remains in question. Dennison, Castillo, and Tyrod is not a combination that can get you sixty minutes of good offense.

Yes, you need both. I'm on record in numerous posts I think Mayfield has the talent to be an NFL qb.

That's too bad if so, because this team could use that kind of fire at the qb position.

Add in the wr corps at OSU has a couple of future pros. Rudolph is my least favorite of the potential first rounders that get talked about. I'd rather take a chance that Allen will improve his accuracy and that is unlikely. Mayfield is the best feasible qb we should target, imo, because I don't see any way we can land Rosen or Darnold.