Bill from NYC

My projected depth chart is Cassel/Tyrod/EJ.

Your course of action is sound, but are you saying that you would rather have EJ on the Bills than RG?

Of course. But I think if this was to happen, we would have to give up way more than the above. WAY more!!! EJ is highly regarded on this board because he was a first round pick. It is a modern day version of the Losman Syndrome. There are posters who STILL think that Losman was "misused," etc. But, EJ is not highly regarded around the league, or even by Bills management. If he was, they would not have acquired 2 new qbs. Actually, it's hard for me to understand why some people cannot see this, but dialogue is why we are here.

I for one have been critical of Gilmore when he screwed up in terms of giving up long, crucial first downs and commiting dumb penalties. That said, I have heaped praise upon him when he played well. It is far from a given that he will be a great corner imo, but I happily add that I now think that it's a distinct possibility. Did it take longer than I would have liked? Yes. Oh, and just a word about "smart football people." Virtually NONE of them watch the Bills as much as some posters on this board. They write about the Bills, but there is no way that they see them as much as we do. No way. And, poster's lines are even stolen at times. Once I was complaining about the OL and posted that we got ours from the "garbage bins and trash heaps" of other teams. A few days later it was written in a newspaper article, word for word, by a reporter we all know. And before anyone thinks I am comparing myself to a pro sportswriter, I am absolutely NOT!!!!! But, I follow the team more than most of them, are there are posters here that put a lot more time into it than I am able to.

Very cool!!!

That's about right. This is a better team without Spiller, but I do wish him well.

Rodgers has 10x the talent of Kosar. This is a non-issue. This is a topic which is fun to discuss but impossible to solve. For example, Rodgers is also more talented that Ken O'Brien or Simms were, but he does seem a bit fragile compared to them, let alone Kelly, Stabler and Bradshaw, wouldn't you say? Another HUGE difference is that WRs and TEs own the middle these days. QBs can send receivers there without worrying as much about them getting paralyzed or killed. Players such as Atwater, Lott, Tatum and many other safeties were extremely dangerous people. In a few years people will see these players on film and shudder in horror at the thought of such violence. Again, Rodgers has all the talent in the world, but Chris Chandler was talented as well and he got destroyed in those days.

Good! They deserve some bad luck!!!

Yes but the problem is that EJ has shown nothing to indicate that he will ever be a top tier QB, and has shown signs of why he will not. Now, I happily concede that he was not used properly. He imo needs to be a running qb but he didn't look so good in this area either. I predict that EJ will not win the starting job. It would be great if he did win it and went on to produce, but I just am not seeing it. But fear not, I thought that Rob Johnson was going to be a star because I was mesmerized by his talent.

Gee, that sounds vaguely familiar.

Don't worry CB. We still have EJ, who seems like a really nice guy!

Fantastic post John! I for one am absolutely thrilled by this trade. I view a presumably healthy Kiko as very, very strong in coverage but frankly, a bit light in the ass vs. the run. Knowing it's a passing league these days, I supose this isn't a huge liability any more. That said, McCoy over Spiller? Not even close. McCoy is going to score touchdowns, as well as gain steady yardage providing we can improve the line. If nobody offers Bulaga sick money he would be a nice fit imo, along with another OG from the draft. Btw, guess who Greg Cossell is praising on Sirius? You guessed it, Cassell. It looks as if this will be a fun season.

There are a couple of teams (Oakland, Jax and perhaps Cleveland) with HUGE amounts of cap room. And, I heard this is the year of the cap "floor" where teams must spend a minimum amount. This changes things imo. The Giants used the franchise tag (14.4 mil.) on JPP. I thought that was crazy but maybe someone would have offered him that much. I consider Spiller to be a 2 million dollar or so gadget player, but maybe a team such as Jax will offer him his 5 mil. I doubt it but it is possible.

100% in favor of this deal.

6) No more Spiller.

Music to my ears lol!!!

Brother, this trade would seem to ABSOLUTELY mandate that the Bills go after blockers via the draft, free agency or both. How about Bulaga, ya know? I am absolutely thrilled by this trade! GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Same here Bro! Bye Bye Spiller!!!!!

Dave, this trade is a thing of beauty!!! Spiller is out the door. And, there is no freaking doubt in my mind now that they will go after more blockers in the draft and/or free agency. And let's face facts.....Kiko, while good, is light in the ass and coming off a serious injury. I LOVE this trade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Absolutely. Even top 10 picks cost pennies these days. But I am surprised that more teams do not use the Transition Tag.

Yikes!!! Ya think??? I think that the ship has clearly sailed wrt the above.

Do you seriously think the above is possible, or is this you being polite? 10-6 with Manuel starting 16 games? Really? When you say "possible," what percentage are you feeling? 5%? 10%? 50%? If EJ starts 16 games and wins 10, I will be the happiest AND most shocked Bills Fan in the continental USA. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good post. One which did live up to your screen name which btw I always thought was funny. Not as great as "PillsnBills," but easily top 20.

Franchise QB? I'm not so sure. Hey.....will TJ Graham become a franchise receiver?

He sure did. The problem was that there was little blocking and no quarterback. Oh, and the Bills lost football games. It mattered little. The 2006 draft was just so awful that it set the team back quite a few years. Levy and Jauron were simply inept managers that nobody else wanted.