Bill from NYC

I suppose I can understand your criticisms of Orton. That said, EJ is an absolute disgrace. One you should get over too. Orton is a pro. EJ is/was a flat out nightmare; a guarantee to lose football games.

1) Big time kudos to Chandler today. 6 catches for 105 yards is more than one could ask for under the circumstances of todays game. 2) I am NOT going to fault Gilmore on the TD pass that he gave up. The coverage was near perfect, and Brady had a month to throw because of the sub-par coaching of Schwartz. Actually, I thought that Gilmore played rather well today. More to come on Schwartz. 3) Duke Williams was SO bad today that I am uncomfortable talking about it. The pass interference call was about as bad a play as I have ever had the displeasure to watch. I hate to say it, but Searcy got toasted too. However, he looked great compared to Duke. It was just sickening to watch Williams. 4) I love the way that this team fights back. Mario, Spikes, Dareus, and Bradham never quit. They just kept playing for 4 quarters. Same with Woods, and Hogan. Players such as FJ and KW always do this. My point? I praise this team for going all out despite the loss. 5) On the first drive of the 3rd qtr., we rushed 3 on a 3rd and 9. This was a stupid move by Schwartz, and I was screaming this as the play was setting up. They made the first down and scored a TD on the following play. 6) I dropped four flights and cracked my spine, Honey come quick with the iodine. Catch a few winks down, under the bed; Then head back to Tennessee, Jed Tennessee, Tennessee, There ain't no place I'd, rather be Baby won't you carry me...... Back to Tennessee. 7) I think that we might just have a new weapon in Chris Hogan. It looks like Orton is able to utilize him too. This is good news on a dismal day. 8) A special shout-out to Bradham.....it is obvious how much he want to win football games. He truly is a pleasure to watch. 9) Schwartz reminds me of Jauron. The Pats OL didn't impress me, but he rarely pressured them. Imo, Schwartz employed a play not to lose philosophy. He was the biggest contributor in this loss today. If Petine was still here, we would have won. Schwartz sucked THAT bad. He was a flat out disaster. 10) Our OL wasn't THAT bad today from where I sat. Glenn DID get schooled by Jones on the play immediately after the deuce, but this is rare. 11) I have been accused of being too tough on Spiller. I am embarrassed to admit that against my better judgment, I backed off a bit. Those days are gone. CJ Spiller is a liability to this football team. He is virtually useless. He needs to be benched imo. Yes, BENCHED!!!!! We can comb through his stats and pretend that he is good, but he is not. 12) Orton, despite the OK stats, looked more rusty than he did last week. Wrt the pick to start the 2nd qtr., he had all day to throw. That said, he still blows EJ away. 13) The fact that the Jets and Dolphins lost does offer us hope. Bills Fans DO deserve hope. 14) Robert Woods is another player who really does want to win football games. I admire his effort and courage. 15) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2nd or 3rd might be a reach, but this is an absolutely great point that you make!

Police use discretion and for many reasons. Here ya go..... 1) It isn't good to alienate any community when you don't have to. 2) It can help to keep a cop from getting killed. 3) The crime committed vs. the fallout might not be worth the trouble. 4) Your supervisors might want you to. Bro, the list is endless. Judges do what they want. Think about the mere premise of a bench warrant if you will. If a judge issues one against you, guess who is going to be handcuffed and brought before the bench? Yep, that's how it works. Now, how about the charge of Criminal Contempt Of Court? If the judge says that you personally are in contempt, guess who is in contempt? No jury needed mind you. The judge might let AP slide. Who knows? I get the feeling that you want him to because it's because of the fact that the term that he broke was smoking weed. No problem. I hope that the judge puts AP in jail because he, imo, is a scumbag and a piece of garbage. You however are very cool.

It IS absurd, but not for the reasons that you mention. Spiller is a situational running back who is no longer young. He is all but one dimensional, whereas he can occasionally break a long one. The list of things he cannot do (including score touchdowns on any consistent level) is far longer. Additionally, his contract is almost up. Toss in the fact that good running backs can be acquired as late round picks and he is all but worthless in terms of trade value. The Bills are better off keeping him around for this season and hoping for any production than letting him go for a 7th round pick.

I don't know how much time you have spent in court, nor am I asking. What I WILL tell you is that judges don't ASK people to do things. They issue terms and orders. I have seen people arrested for using foul language and drinking a beer in their own homes because this was in violation of a Family Court Order of Protection. Feel free not to believe this. Trust me, an "Average Joe" would get his or her ass kicked in court for not abiding by the terms that a judge sets. Once again, they dictate policy and are not asking people to do things. And, they don't have to bow to policies (such as marijuana legalization) that some people feel are "progressive." If you never listen to another word I say, trust me on this.....if you disobey a judge, you WILL lose. Being a judge is the best job in the USA. THE best job.

Dean, no need for a witch hunt. The witch is in the room. He beat his kids, one until his testicles were bleeding. Let's not forget his prior incident at he club, on which he of course blamed the police. My hope is that he is punished to the full extent of the law for this, and every other crime he commits and worry not, there will be more. The real shame is that this cretin is getting paid.

This is a rare occasion in which I am not quite sure I agree with you. In these parts, NYC Police Officers earn approx. $50,000.00 less per year than suburban cops who do a literal fraction of the work. NYC Police Officers take WAY more political and physical risks. It is a better life to be a police officer in Old Brookville, NY or in NYC? Who really WINS Badol? That said, Mario, from what I can see, gives it his all on virtually every down. It is clear to me that he cares big time about winning football games. His salary is sick, but he earns it imo. He makes the players around him better and he plays hurt. Imo if the Bills make the playoffs this season, Mario will be a huge reason. If he gets hurt, our chances are bleak, or so I see it. I think that Mario is a true professional, and one of the greatest players in the history of the franchise.

Yes, and how great is the originality of his screen names? Kelly's Arm, Marino's Arm, Elway's Arm would be trite, unimaginative names imo.

Darin, these contracts are not so expensive now with the new CBA.

Hey, I'm sorry to hear about your dad, and I pray that he has a speedy and total recovery.

Yes, we need guards. I said before the season that Pears is not a guard. He is a brute strength RT. Period. As for the defense, this game tells us that we might even have some depth up front. This is very encouraging. Yes I did and it bordered on cowardice. Granted it was a huge defender, but he was in a position to make a block and it looked as if all he did was lean his shoulder in there. That was an awful play.

Yeah, I don't know how he does it. Seriously. I truly hope to see this football team make the playoffs. If they do, I'm coming up!

Thanks and I forgot to credit Leodis for taking out Johnson. Once more..... GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1) Gotta start with a shout out to Carpenter. That kick was miraculous! Just freaking great!!!!! And it had a few yards left! 2) In the middle of the 3rd quarter, Watkins was mauled by the defender. The flag was tossed by the official who was RIGHT THERE and picked up. Is that how this works? The league should look into this. I HATE complaining about calls, but this was simply outrageous. Sadly, more to come on this topic. 3) Marcel Dareus played the game of his life. On his sack for a forced fumble, he was clearly held. Today, this kid was every single thing we wanted him to be in every way. 4) Here is the deal wrt Pears. He is an average Right Tackle. He doesn't suck at RT. He has no business playing Guard. NONE! But he retaliated on the late hit by Fairley, and he is a tough guy. I respect him for fighting for his teammates. 5) Help on the way, I know only this; I've got you today Don't fly away..... 'cause I love what I love and I want it that way. 6) Watkins was just SO good today, I am going to re-evaluate the trade, which I was totally against. 7) Orton? I need more time to sort out what he does. We probably all do. But his pass to Goodwin was each and every bit as good as it gets, no? 8) Woods was blocking his ass off today. He threw a block on a run by FJ in the 3rd quarter that MADE the play. 9) Schwartz was another person who confused me today. At the end of the first qtr., they rushed only 3 on 3rd and 8 and gave up a td. I KNOW that Pettine would have applied more pressure. That said, his defensive calls overall were VERY good imo. Let's face it, the defense kept us in the game, so I am going to give credit and thanks. 10) Have I blasted Gilmore when I saw fit to do so? Certainly. Well, the pass interference call against him in the 2nd quarter was absolute BS!!!!! If anything, Johnson hit him in his facemask. The truth is that he played a decent game today and this football team needs him to step up. I am thrilled to see him play well. 11) OK, I have a confession to make. I watched the game today in a crowded place. After one of Marcel's brutal sacks I yelled, "He's my son!" People were looking at me and the replay and gave me some room and strange looks. Yeah, I am a Bills fan. 12) Sorry, I am pissed at the fact that we had 2 delay penalties in the first quarter. We are not a good enough team to do this and win on a consistent basis. 13) Spiller was awful today. He can't see a hole. He dances and gains 2, if that. 14) Thank you Jerry Hughes for giving it your all on every play!!!!! Seriously, you go!!! 15) There is nothing that grabs me more than when the Bills fight back. Not one f*&^%$g thing. It makes them better people, better players, and it is what WE deserve as fans. 16) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Absolutely! In a similar thread, one poster commented that watching Jerman he was afraid that someone might get killed out there. I literally felt this as well. A good play for this poor guy was getting shoved to the ground. On bad plays, he was pancaked, trampled, and the qb was demolished. I miss Lori posting here. Once I asked her if I was seeing things or was this really happening with Jerman. Needless to say, she affirmed that the above was really happening.

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Yolo, it was your post, no? Have I ever mocked or belittled you? Not sure why you would even suspect this. Others have covered my views of this article. It seems to be more fantasy based and omits several key factors. Surrounding talent on BOTH sides of the ball is one of them. In any event, thanks for the article. Bills discussion is why I am here.

I changed my mind. EJ doesn't wait too long to run, leads his receivers, and doesn't miss throws by a city block. He is great.

CB, not trying to pile on here but there is nothing that EJ is good at. He won't run until it's too late. He throws uncatchable incompletions. When he manages to complete a pass, he doesn't lead his receivers and throws behind them more often than not. When his receivers are wide open they have to wait for the football. Listen, EJ is awful. Yes, simply awful. Now, will Orton last the season behind our guards? I hope so but it's a reach to say the least. What will probably happen is that EJ will get back in and continue to suck. That said....... GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am surprised that this thread didn't get more attention. Do you think that Mularkey would have made a move like this without consulting Donahoe? Marrone isn't exactly my favorite coach of all time but he really does have a redeeming factor or 2. And I DO believe the report from a month or so ago where he was alleged to have told Whaley, "if you want, fire me," or words to that effect. He needs to retain control of the team and keep the players believing that they have a chance to win. I respect this move and btw thanks for posting this.

And this came immediately after 2 timeouts on 3 plays. The truth is this is not new to Marrone. Last season he threw away several chances to score before the half. We have Brandon to thank.

He also could have ran out of trouble but he did not. He absolutely sucked. It was as disgraceful a performance that one could visualize. The defense was great under these circumstances to keep the football team in the game. EJ needs to get the hell off the football field so a quarterback can give this football team a chance to win.

1) Was it me, or did McKelvin call a fair catch on a couple of punts that it looked like he could have returned? 2) Please excuse me, I am going to be less delicate and more scathing today. 3) Carpenter's successful field goal was probably a contributing factor to the blood pressure of the average Bills Fan. I actually thought that he missed it. 4) Let's see....we are near midfield with 30 something seconds before the half, and no timeouts. Do you spike the ball and set up a few plays? No? OK, let's line up and throw an inbounds 3 yard pass. Marrone and Hackett are not up to the task. They are sub-par coaches who are WAY over their heads. So is Brandon who hired these Syracuse cronies. Hopefully, they will all be fired, and they can take Whaley with them. 5) EJ completed 21 passes today. My contention is that most of his completions even sucked. He was not leading his receivers and was throwing late. The TD pass to Sammy should have been an easy play. It wasn't. Much more to come on EJ. 6)Broken heart don't feel so bad, Ain't got half a what you thought you had. Rock your baby to and fro, Not too fast and not too slow. And I say row, Jimmy, row Gonna get there? I don't know. Seems a common, way to go Get down, row, row, row, row, row. 7) Manuel had many opportunities to run. It looked to me as if he didn't have the balls to do so. 8) Kyle Williams was clearly double covered when he blocked that pass in the 3rd qtr. He is as fundamentally sound as any player we will see. I hope his knee is OK, and the same applies to Bradham, who looks very good. 9) The interception by McKelvin was so off the charts great that its hard to describe. It was the best play of his career, and I have a hard time picturing him ever making a better play. That was a great play for Deion Sanders or Mel Blount. He not only muscled the ball from the receiver, but he went up a mile high. What a freaking play!!!!! 10) If Marrone has a hair on his ass he would bench EJ vs. the Lions. Orton may not be that good, but he is a professional quarterback. And I am guessing that if Orton makes a good play, he won't feel the need to stare up into the screen. That said, Marrone probably will not do this. He and Whaley are clinging to their last shred of hope. It's sickening. 11) Once again, my man Searcy is making pays. The truth is that even Gilmore didn't hurt us today. 12) What did you people think about the Bills time management in the first half? Does this look like a professional coaching staff? I am going to call it disgraceful. 13) Yeah, this game was on EJ. He was no better than Thad Lewis today or even Tuel. I am calling for him to be immediately benched. If you disagree, please tell me how much time you care to give him, ok? 14) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I normally resist the temptation to cite the importance of individual games. They all seem to be just SO important, but this one sticks out imo so I want to address it..... 1) Houston can be beat, and it would be an important road win in a conference game. 2) Win or lose, it will be a tall order for this inexperienced coaching staff to win next week on the road for the 2nd week, in a dome, against a very talented Lions team. Not impossible mind you, but a VERY tough task. 3) EJ will be tested because of Watt, who is tearing up the league. Every EJ scenario exists: a) He could step up and take over the game. b) He could suck. c) He could get hurt and Orton could win (or lose). d) Anything else. 4) 3-1 is a beautiful thing. Yes, we have been down the road of good starts before only to see to see them go sour. That said, 3-1 is still a nice situation. 5) A win, coupled with a loss from ANY of our divisional opponents (let alone more than 1) would be HUGE. And this division isn't looking all that great, ya know? So there it is. On Sunday I will be happier than the norm if we win and more disappointed if we lose. I truly do want this game big time! Bills Fans probably need this game more than the team does. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!