Bill from NYC

Absolutely! It would not surprise me at all if Rice dropped 50 or 100 Gs. Now, add in some substance (lots of it) and you have yourself a mess. Think about it, here is a physical specimen with millions of dollars in a hotel with a very hot young lady who at least appears to like him. Sounds like a dream come true, no? So instead of being in a luxury hotel suite with this beautiful woman, he is downstairs dropping wads of cash and getting stoned. And she had every right to object; they were engaged. That said, Rice is a criminal. He is violent and has no impulse control. That punch could have easily killed a strong adult male, let alone a woman. He deserves what he gets and my guess is that he will soon be a destitute criminal in lieu of a rich one. I do however feel a bit sorry for Goodell. He has been placed in the role of a cop and a prosecutor, but imo he is neither. He's a CEO of a multi-billion dollar conglomerate. If this was my case, I'm not sure how happy I would be to turn tape over to a private enterprise, so I really don't know if he had this tape or not. Either way, I am not calling for him to resign or be fired.

FIC for what it's worth, when the Giants drafted JPP I thought that he would bust out. As I recall he is from Haiti and had little real football background. Wow, was he good initially. Since then, I view him as light in the ass and hurt. That said, imro Henderson should really take it to Wake, who is also not so big. If he can push him away, the Bills will be able to gain lots rushing yards on his side. Personally, I would love to see Bryce Brown running that way but I don't know what's up with that.

And you nailed it here. They were running a hurry up with a QB, OC, and HC who were rookies, let alone an oversized OL. It made no sense at all.

Well, he had 5 solo tackles, 2 assists, and a clutch fumble recovery with a 30 yard run. The best part was the way he kept his head and was clutching the ball at the end. Lost? Perhaps, it was his first game. But for a rookie debut, I'll take it.

Great news!!!!!

You know who played well after an initial screw up Preston Brown. We need players such as him to step up. E-man, I am one happy mf right now!

EJ was pretty good. This is a huge improvement. The kid played his ass off and appeared to be in good shape. But as I said, he needs to run.

1) I liked what I saw of Watkins. This means something people. He is a freaking baby, but his skillset did shine through this week. Even a doubter like me can be happy. 2) You see, more than one player can win one single game for a football team. You tend to not want it to be either kicker, right? But Carpenter and Gay really were major contributors to this victory. This is beyond dispute. 3) Did you see the TD run by EJ? I cannot tell you how happy I was. The kid needs to RUN!!! He is NOT a pocket QB. If used and coached properly, maybe he can win us football games. How cool is that???!!! 4) Spiller drives me nuts. Seriously. His TD in the 2nd qtr. was perfectly executed. A fantastic play no doubt. Then, with 47 seconds left before the half he went out of bounds. It didn't cost the Bills anything, but I had a near heart attack. You just CANNOT do chit like that again and again. 5) Who can stop what must arrive now? Something new is waiting, to be born. Dark as the night, You're still by my side, Shining side. Gone are the days, we stopped to decide, Where we should go, We just ride. Gone are the broken eyes we saw through in dreams, Gone both, dream and lie...... 6) How great was that run by Fred Jackson? It was almost like story book stuff, ya know? He deserved that play as much as we did. Just so freaking cool!!! 7) Mike Williams made as good a catch as one would ever hope to see. Seriously, if he can keep himself together, he will be literally great. 8) Sorry, I was unimpressed by the Guard play on either side. How about you? Did you like what you saw from Chris Williams in particular? I did not. Not at all. 9) How many of you missed Gilmore? I am curious. Corey Graham looked pretty damned good from where I sat. 10) I am serious, I think that Mario hit Cutler SOOOO hard on that sack that it changed the game. For those of you who are unsure, Mario Williams is the best player on our football team. 11) My friends, we have a shot!!! We do. I know as well as any Bills Fan that these moments are fleeting, but we look good right now. And we look like we can improve. 12) McKelvin had a rough outing. I hope he improves. 13) The thing about Woods that stuck out was how hungry he looked. This kid can really play football. 14) I am just SO happy for us as fans. Right this second, hope does prevail. It feels good and my best wishes go out to my fellow Bills Fans. Nobody is as loyal as us. NOBODY! 15) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know, but I was referring more to your screen name.

At least we know that you are not Coach Marrone.

This post made me LOL!!!!! I know you are serious, but if one reads it again, it does sum things up for many a fan. Only the Bills could take an " really upbeat" football fanatic and make him frightened that the season is about to begin. :) This board is so freaking funny, and we truly are the best fans out there. As for me, I can't wait to see how Henderson plays. He might be a true steal ala Jason Peters, which is all but impossible. That said, Pears is NOT a guard imo. I am also hoping that EJ runs the football himself, and I'm glad to see Spiller return kicks. I also will keep my eye on Bryce Brown who looks VERY good imo. GO BILLS!!!!!

Good point and welcome to the board. Your screen name does apply well to any Bills Fan !

EIL, Tom is 100% correct. The NYC PBA would not accept money if you walked in and offered it to them. They NEVER solicit. They do accept donations to the Widows and Orphans Fund but again, they NEVERR, EVER solicit. People will call from time to time and choose to donate from the goodness of their hearts. I KNOW that the above is true.

Not by much E.A. Please remember that Levy turned down "multiple trade offers" for the #8, and said that some offered more than an extra second round pick. That draft was loaded with good blockers. Absolutely stacked, let alone the fact that Cutler and Ngata were sitting there at 8. Then, they traded a 2nd and an early 3rd to move up and draft McCargo ahead of Nick Mangold. Nice, huh? And yes, Kyle Williams was a total score with first round ability and off the charts work effort. He saved the 2006 draft from being a total wash, or so one might think. But what did happen was that this draft went on to define Levy and Jauron, the worst combo I for one have ever seen.

I agree. Spiller and even EJ (in terms of running) have been treated like sacred cows. They need to earn their money, score touchdowns, and win us football games. So do I. I think he will be a factor in the Bills offense and get the football in the end zone.

BV, I was against the Marrone hire. I considered him under credentialed and a Brandon Syracuse crony. I never hid this view. And, his clock management was really piss poor, especially at halftime. This is beyond dispute. That said, I am sensing that you might admire what he did in this scenario, if of course it is true. I must say that again.....IF this is true, I actually am fond of what was alleged! An announcer on Sirius said this afternoon that he was not into drafting EJ. I like the fact hat if Marrone goes down, he will go down swinging (unlike the slow blinking Jauron). Look, this team has problems. We know this. But I am impressed with Marrone standing up. I am going to root even harder for him. I really do hope that Coach Marrone is successful. I never thought that he would be but again, I love that if he tanks, he will go down fighting. Am I making sense lol?

Hand off to Spiller, gain of 2. 1) Draw. 2) Spiller 3) Gain of 2

1) Thanks SDS for providing a place where I have been able to talk to Bills Fans for 15 or so years. Time does fly. I really can't thank you enough Bro. 2) Big time thanks to every past and present moderator. You people do the work, and do a tremendous job. 3) Thanks to those who disagree with me. If every poster said that QB is the most important position and focused on the OL the way I do, there would be little for me to discuss. Special thanks to metz lives and cb97. These two generally detest my way of viewing this team. They might even dislike me personally LOL but they are willing to engage me in Bills conversation. This matters; thanks again. 4) One complaint.....people, PLEASE stop diminishing your comments about the Bills because you are "not a GM," etc. You people have witnessed and been tortured by 14 years of absolute horror. You KNOW this football team. It would be hard to be this bad even if one tried. I am going to go out on a limb and say that if I was in charge, I would have drafted better than the "professionals" in 2006 and yes, 2014. BADOLBILZ probably would have won us a superbowl. 5) I for one like this board the most before the draft. Thanks to all of you draftkiks for caring enough to post YOUR thoughts. 6) Hey Bills Vet.....I am going to address your post (last one in page 4) in the big thread about the discord between Marrone and the brass. I sense that we are seeing the same strange thing. 7) MOST of all, thanks for those who indulge me enough to read my "thoughts." As amateurish as they are, it takes more work than you might think. Seriously, thank you all, BIG time. 8) Let's win! Let's win freaking football games!!!!! C'mon Mario, put Cutler out of his misery on Sunday! Hey CJ, score me 2 touchdowns! Give us a pick six Gilmore!!! 9) Thanks again to all, and may God bless. 10) GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, I pick them to finish last in their division, but who knows?

And how will he get into the HOF if the QB is not good and the head coach MIGHT be even worse? Oh, and how do you like Hackett? The above doesn't even take into account the real possibility of any player getting injured. I hated this trade from day 1. HATED it!!! That said, many posters I respect are ok with it; some even like it. I don't quite liken it to Whitner in 06. That was as dumb as one could possibly imagine. Watkins might even make a bit more sense than wasting a #10 on Gilmore. I suppose that I liken this pick in terms of being stupid somewhere around the Spiller selection, perhaps not quite as bad.

Best post of the thread! My daughters are now Bills Fans, and it's my fault. They tell draft day stories about me, and call me after the first round of every draft to this day to hear me lament, and try to soothe the pain I am usually in from stupid moves. There is nothing we can do. There just isn't. We are in this mess together unless they leave town. Then of course all bets are off. Good luck to the OP, I could just never quit. The truth is, I don't want to either.

He WAS a rookie. I really do get this. But he looks pretty bad as we speak. Can he put it all together? I hope so. But the guy is 6'4" and his passes are being blocked. Others are WAY off. If it was up to me, he would be running the read option and buying time. He is not looking like a pocket passer at all from where I sit.

And you are doing the exact same thing that you rail against. Mallet's play has been horrible? How many regular season passes has he thrown? Has he thrown 20? But you are writing him off. EJ sucked last season and has looked worse this preseason despite having a year in the system, more talent around him, and health. Tell me, how do you rate EJ? They didn't sign Orton only because Tuel and Lewis suck imo. What do you think?

Yes, but in all probability someone else will. And he might be the worst QB in the league. But he also might be much better than any QB on the Bills. Sucks for us, no?

I heard Marrone say on Sirius that he called Schwartz and offered him the DC job. He said it was an easy sell because of all the talent.