Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Actually it likely is much harder than rocket science as thre are formulas to use in science. Here's it's gut instincts which can more easily be misproved. Re #3, Yup, just look at the Redskins to show how great this works. Re #4 , There are much more failures than successes out there. I'm very nervious about college QB's who ofte nlook good becasue thye have a great tema around them. There's much less prep time in college, so I think this gives offenses a much bigger leg up than in the pro's It becomes easy for QB's to look good. Re35, I'd pefer someone who looks good in 3 or 4 years to drafting the rookie of the year and see little if any improvment.

Doesn't it seem kind of strange thta the later round picks are pretty good, but the 1st through 3rd rounders or so are weak. I'd imagine the 1st couple of rounds, being much higher profile, get much more input, where as a 7th rounder may be totally off scouting reports and little input given from others. No one knows how much is on Modrak vs. others, but hte fact that the later round picks and FA have done well makes me think Modrak has had much less involvement wit hearly round selections as many here like to argue.

If Favre is done for the year which between his injury and the way Jackson played, Brett's last pass as a Vike could be an int, just as his last pass as a Packer and as a Jet was. That's a pretty amazing streak.

If Favre is done for the year which between his injury and the way Jackson is playing, Brett's last pass as a Vike could be an int, just as his last pass as a Packer and as a Jet was. That's a pretty amazing streak.

ou can't have it both ways. People are often complaining how RW is to meddlesome. Now you're asking for him to over rule the GM?? He gave total control to TD, so if TD wants to get rid of him, you don't stop him, unless you want to be the GM. I'd give credit to RW, for not trying to think he knows more about talent and over ruling TD. Did this one work out well, clearly in hindsight no it didn't. But don't try and blame that on the owner.

They have some depth too. With this guy Urbik starting right now, looked OK last week, maybe the idea of him playing guard next year and moving Wood's to center isn't so bad, not thta Hang looked bad either. Howard and Wrotto at RT has looked OK, Wrotto maybe even better? Plus you have Wang learning as a rookie. They only have eight OL players on roster, teams often carry nine. Wouldn't mind seeing them use around a 3rd rounder on a LEFT tackle, let him learn as a rookie. Have him as a backup to Bell in case on injury, but also could use as a RT too if needed. The one area I think they still could use some improvmernt on is run blocking. But I'd give them all another year of playing together, gaining experience, strength, etc, before I'd determine whether the present players have reached their potential there. Both Bell and Woods could use another off season to fully recover and strengthen themslves from last years injuries. That may help more in run blocking, adding some strength.

That part was pretty easy as the only team who could have claimed him prior was Carolina, as we have second worst record.

How can that be?? It wasa known fact the Bill's totally screwed up by not picking Clausen when they had the chance. Many here whom are much smarter than NFL gm's would have told you how dumb the Bill's were back then.

Wow, Robert DeNiro has gotten old, then again so have I. Although if I had his money I'm sure I could have prevented it.

I read an article recently, think it was in Money magazine, predicting whta life wil lbe like in the year 2020, Sounds like they write one of these pieces every ten years. I'ts kind of written part truth, part tongue in cheek, but even the funny parts are based on some reality. Anyway one of the things they talked about was the effect of global warming. It predicted thta people would flock to Detroit and Buffalo to escape the heat and drought of the south.

I'm not certain I'd put St Louis or Tampa on your list. But they'd be neck and neck with the Bill's along with Miami, Cleveland, Oakland, & Minn,

Give a year under his belt and he could be quite the change of pace guy to Freddie. Bring him in 2nd and long, then send him in motion and goes out as a receiver Hard for some LB to cover him. Next time you run him. Biggest area offensively I'd like ot see the Bill's improve in is run blocking.

I think we've become better at pass blocking than run blocking, that's an area I'd like ot see some improvment on. Maybe we were so concerned over the pass blocking, spend the bulk of practice time working on that. I'd consdier using a 3rd rounder on a RT or possibly a center. Let him be a backup for a year or two, then becomes the starter. Unles the plans are stil lto move Wood's to cetner, than no need. But all things considered O-line and offesne in general is looking pretty good. Give Fitz, and the recievers and Spiller a year under their belts, and should be pretty good next year. They have some depth there too, at least one dcent guard and tackle. Wang may become decent too in another year. That would give them 8 solid line players

When I saw the play happn I tought it was cwick thinking on the punters part, but was looking up at the top graphics to se eif it was going to say "FLAG" as I was wondering it it was legal Eventually a flag was thrown. When I first saw it happen I thought it was like a drop kick. But it does kind of make sense that you can't do what was done, otherwise anytime a ball is fumbled behind the line, just kick it downfield and cal lit a punt.

While I totally agree that the QB seems to made a huge difference, some is I think is also due to these guys all getting more experience. I do think they need to improve more on run blocking though, could be they spent the bulk of practicve time working on pass blocking the past year or soas thta seemed to be the weaker area of play?? Maybe a new RT would also help overall.

Some comments about your comments: I agree with you about the receivers being the strongest unit. It worries me a little that a year ago everyone was saying the same thing about the secondary. I hope we haven't seen the last of Parrish. He's proven, guys like Easley while looked promising ,needs to do mre first before I'm ready to give up on Roscoe. Fitz is still only in his fifth year, that's young in QB years Agree about extending Johnson. Agree about adding a RT. The other area the Bills O-line does still seem to struggle is run blocking. Maybe too much practice time was spent on improving the pass blocking, seem they need to work more on run blocking and show more improvement there. Or maybe they still need to make some changes ot get guysa thta can do both? Seems it often takes rookies one full year to let the speed of the game come to them. Maybe now are seeing that in Troup and Carrington? It's easier ot play rookies and have them look good when there's a strong tem around the rookie. The Bills don't have the luxury yet so tend to bring them guys along slowly. One disapointment though so far this year is the play of Byrd.

Wasn't Andre Reed also a 7th rounder?? If so, wouldn't make him best, but he's following in good company.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670 Here's the chart. I was looking at it the other day myself, but I was hoping the Bills would have the #2 overall and looking at what they could get to trade down. The Bills need help at OLB, DE, and RT, an center for the future and ideally a pass catching TE. I'd use around a 3rd for a RT as they aren't in too bad of shape there, same for a backup center whom eventually will become starter in a couple years. They need to use a high pick though on OLB and DE, so again trading down wouldn't be a bad thing for some extra picks. They also coule look for help through free agency too, maybe get one big time LB there. Then again maybe the secret in Merriman, after al lthey haven't lost since they've signed him.

Well it could be that it took him this long to figure things out. Now that he's got a better understanding, he's playing and looking OK doing it.

Agreed, they are both better than Fitz. But would I cal lthe melite QB's. If Eli's last name wasn't Manning, he'd be considered better than average, but not HOF material. I hope another team feels one of these guys is a can't miss prospect and offers the Bills 3 or 4 early round picks to move up a few pots. The Bills then can draft a QB lower, or get one by other means as has been pointed out. Take the extra picks and fill holes.

Yeah so out of those 20 SB, there were 10 QB's total. And out of those 10, I'd probably take out Rypien and quite frankly the jury is still somewhat out on Eli Manning and even Brees. Would I use the 1st overall pick on another Peyton Manning. In a heartbeat. But for every Peyton Manning, there are three Akili Smiths, Rick Mirer, and Ryan Leaf's! The odds are better in getting a Leaf than another Manning. Or you may get a Rypien type who hasa few good years, but all in all, had more bad years than good ones. Actually I'd more compare him to my original point about Trent Dilfer than many of the others in your list You better have a hell of a team around him. So yeah, that's the problem you need one of these guys to win a SB, but the odds aren't in your favor of getting one. Thats why there are many repeat winners as there aren't enough good QB's to go around. Thats the biggest problem IMO of the NFL, 30 teams and about a dozen good QB's to go around. And they don't go around, they stay with the same teams therefore those teams win and no one else does. So given thatI think I'd rather take my chances with Fitz and good team around him than throwing all my eggs in one basket of getting the next Peyton Manning. Also as was pointed out many of those guys weren't even top draft picks. What was Brady a 6th rounder? Kurt Warner was found stocking shelfs in a supermarket.

A better defense (LB's and DE) would often shorten the field for Fitz, a better RT, a TE who can catch passes, and another year under the belt for Steve Johnson would likely make Fitz look much better. If Balt can win a SB with Trent Dilfer, we could go far with Fitz and a strong team around him. In Buffalo's weather, you really need to count a defense and the running game to win late in the season anyway, so why worry abot getting a stud QB. There are bigger needs. Personally I hope they trade down a few slots and get extra picks. As was mentioned though too many more wins this year will move them down far enough on their own that trading won't get them much, maybe an extra 3rd rounder. The value of picks drops off very fast after around the top three.

Great, just tell us who it is?? I'm all for taking a franchise QB #1 IF you can be guaranteed he will be in a top 10 QB in 5 years and be a top level for another five years after that. Realize there's no promises at any positions but top QB's seem to have a higher failure rate than other positions. Why?? My opinion is that it's easier to hide the weaknesses of college QB's. Plus many have stacked teams around them i.e. Tim Tebow. In the pro's it's a much more level playing field. Defenses have 10X the time to study opponetns, figure out their weaknesses, etc. make supposed stars look average. For those reasons, I'd feel safer picking a DE or LB. Actually what I'd really like to see is some team who really has QB problems, say Az, or even Minn once Brett really does retire for the 15th time, make a trade with the Bills for extra picks. Looking at the draft pick value chart, assuming the Bills were to have the #2 overall pick, to move up from even #4 to #2 would likely cost the team their #1, #2, and #3. To jump from #10 to #2 would cost all of the above, plus likely their #1 the following season. More than likely there will be some team desperate to move up to pick one of these "can't miss" QB's Not that the Bill's don't also need one, but a team like Minn doesn't have as many other needs as the Bills do, so they may not need the extra draft picks as much and would more likely give them up. Is Fitz a great QB? no! Is he top 15? maybe Is he serviceable? yes! If a team can win the SB with Trent Dilfer, and a great defense, you can build a winning team around Fitz with good creative coaching which I think they now have in Chan, and a solid team around him. An extra 1st, 2nd, and 3rd could accelerate that greatly. SD and Cinn are two team who over the past 20 years or so have used many low round draft picks on QB's only to see one after another fail. No one saw these guys not succeeding.

Well alot of people do seem to listen to them as seen here by the number of threads every week discussing the latest stupid thing they did. You want to get rid of Shoup and the Dope, everyone needs to stop posting about them. I'll promise you one thing, every time one of these threads appears, there likely is at least one person who normally doesn't listen to them, will now go and listen to see if they "really are as bad as people here claim". I think they both are terrible, but seems to me they are sly like a fox as the dumber they act, the more people talk and write about them.

Wow, I didn't realize that people on this board are smarter than people who do this for a living. It really amzes me that more posters here don't work for NFLteams considering how smart they think they are.