Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

If you could get a 3rd or 4th for Hughes, then would agree trade him, but doubt they could. If they can't I'd keep him, maybe redo the contract to lessen the hit and add one year and in a way they could easily walk away from. I think if you put Ngakoue on the other end, Hughes may all of a sudden look better too. Also don't want to see so much change on line in one off season. I'd let Addison and Butler both go, but would keep Jefferson as he can play both inside and out, plus was asked to play out of position most of year as they were juggling things all over due to Star's opt out. If you're signing Thomlinson to replace Star, think I'd wait till next year and sign the best 1 technique FA in 2022 and save the money this year.

Why in the first 18 games of the season did Allen have enough time back there to read a book before throwing? I don't care how bad they looked against one team, you need to look at the complete body of work before making rash decisions like firing a coach. Do think alot can be traced back to poor running game, which maybe the line coach is at fault for that. But wouldn't fault him for Allen being under duress. Also much easier for a D line to look reel good when team you're facing is 3 TD's behind and has no running game.

I think it's a little more than that. McD's scheme on the D line appears to be rather than trying to get a superstar lineman, we're going to rotate 8 to 9 deep and wear you down. By the 3rd quarter we'll be beating you, even if it's our backups as they are still pretty good players. That idea seemed to work for the most part in 2018 and 2019, but not in 2020. Whether it was lack of an off season for the new players to fully be comfortable in the system or they signed the wrong guys, not sure which, but didn't get the value for what they spent. Maybe the secret is pickup or sign guys on one year deals so they want to go out and prove something, like Phillips and Shaq last year and maybe Williams on the O-line this season. Will be interesting to see if they would even try to sign a high end pass rusher if they could or again stick with the come at you in waves concept. I will say this philosophy seems to be prevalent across all sports of resting players. Look at the NBA giving players games off, pitchers never pitching anymore on three days rest, etc. Compare that to Bruce Smith, when did he come out of games?

Lorenzo retired so not much the team could do there. Always worry when guys in contract years like Shaq and Phillips have great seasons so really didn't have a problem with them letting them go. Personally I think losing Star was the biggest hurdle and they never completly overcame.

Doubt you want to cut 4 D Lineman of the team. I'd cut Butler and if you can sign a higher level proven edge rusher would also add in Addision. Going further than that you're going to start to weaken the team too far and/or will need to sign a bunch of replacments. Could see a restructure/extension for Hughes maybe add one more year to deal, think I'd like to keep Jefferson as he's more versatile, can play inside or outside. On the O-Line I'd cut Morse if means can resign Mongo and Williams. If only signing one, then would keep Morse. Brown is gone unless takes a huge like 50% pay cut. You also need to keep around $5 mil for draft picks, plus teams like to keep between $3 to $5 mil for in season injury replacements.

Be accurate here, Bealsey said it was only partially broken! LOL

Boettger, Bojorquez and Wallace are all RFA so would sign them cheap. Of the unrestricted, I'd try to resign: Feliciano, Williams, Milano, McKenzie, & Jones. Some like McKenzie, and Jones won't break the bank, some of the others will. The Bills spent a fair amount of $$ and effort to improve ST, can't see them letting Jones and Roberts both walk, maybe Roberts prices himself out and goes, but not both. I'd also let Morse, Brown, Butler all walk, maybe Addison too if could sign a more high impact edge rusher. Then redo the contracts of Hyde, Smith, and Matakevich to lower cap hit. Likely a couple others the team will also redo to lower cap. With Kroft a FA if they also let Smith go, they will need to find a backup TE who can also block well as you do want that big blocking TE on the roster, even if used sparingly. Maybe the team feels they've seen enough from Sweeney to be the backup TE, then keep Smith as the blocker. If not then maybe try and find another Kroft like guy for less money, but the less money part might be too hard to do, so maybe they keep Smith.

You actually left a couple out Boettger, Bojorquez also FA and Wallace are all RFA so would sign them cheap. Of the unrestricted, I'd try to resign: Feliciano, Williams, Milano, McKenzie, Jones, Roberts, and Barkley (they need a #2 QB so unless they can find someone better for similar $$ why not him) Some like McKenzie, Jones, and Roberts won't break the bank, some of the others will. I'd also let Morse, Brown, Butler all walk, maybe Addison too if could sign a more high impact edge rusher. Then redo the contracts of Hyde, Smith, and Matakevich to lower cap hit. Likely a couple others the team will also redo to lower cap.

I do wonder if Daboll (and maybe Allen too) got too infatuated with the early season success of the passing game and just kind of forgot about the running game to some extent. How much did they practice it, did that also drop off some, maybe not a conscious decision but might have been the result. That result trickled down to time spent working in run blocking too. Assuming they resign Williams and Mongo, let Morse go, resign Ike and Bates as backups. Draft an interior lineman fairly high to become starting guard, maybe they start year off with Ike starting, but by late October rookie takes over. I'd also draft another lineman maybe around the 5th round or so to develop There have been some good RB's drafted in 3rd round so not impossible. K Hunt, A Kamera, David Johnson before injured

The one thing that worries me about Williams is he looked real good against Miami, but that was at a point in game where Miami was running for the bus as they like to say. Am a bit nervous to count on him. Feel that's part of the reason the running game has looked that bad is we've kind of assumed mediocre players are going to produce more for the past couple of seasons now. Yeah I like the idea of signing Stills for $2 to 3 mil, but does Stills like that idea? I did look up him last contract was in the $8 mil range. But he also wasn't re-signed by anyone after he was cut so maybe $3 mil doesn't sound so bad for him. Green wouldn't be a bad guy to sign, see his market value is listed as $6 mil, but will he get it. With all the 2020 rookie WR and supposedly 2021 will also be a deep draft class, may mean WR free agent salaries drop.

Agree kind of felt the same too. Was there some secret injury to Allen that we'll hear about in a couple weeks, or was it just that once you get into the playoffs the defenses all are much better. Hard to believe that's it as played some good defensive teams in regular season too unless they all save their good stuff for the playoffs..

I really don't understand why going for 2 was the wrong move. At that point the Bills needed to score three TD's and on two of them they needed to convert a two point conversion, so what difference does it make if you were to get the two on the first two TD's or the last two? You can make the argument going for two on the first ones makes more sense as then you know where you stand going forward whether you'll need two or three more scores. If you wait until the last one and don't make it, may not be enough time to do anything else. Agreed, the running game was an issue all season. Singletery certainly dropped off alot. Was it him or the run blocking? You wonder at how well the passing game was, did they even spend enough practice time on the run game? Need big improvement there. Think drafting 30th they should look for a CB there as agree they need a legit #2 guy and likely could still find a guy that low who could step in as a rookie as opposed to drafting some other position. Agree completly with cutting Brown unless he were to come back in the $3 mil range. Agree too it is kind of ironic about the def coordinators. Going into this game I felt that the next coach of the Texans would be who ever lost this game between Frazier and Beimeny. I do question the logic though of either as how much of the defense is really Frazier or McD pulling many of the strings himself, same in KC with Beimeny as Reid likely is pulling many of the strings. In that respect would think a better choice would be Daboll or Spags or even a guy like a Wink Martindale.

#1 I agree, but also agree may be hard to find with money as hard to come by as it is. I'd cut Butler and Addison which saves close to $16 mil to try and get one, but even if cutting those two still might not be enough when you add in other needs they also have like signing Milano, Feleciano, and Williams. The Bills philosophy on the D line is we're not going to have any superstars, but instead will pay for depth so even when we roll out subs in, they will beat you. In 2018 and 2019, that concept worked pretty well, but this season not so much. Part of it may have been due to having Jefferson, and Butler play out of position due to Star opting out or maybe they just were all the right guys. Know idea how common the rotating D line players is, but don't recall Bruce Smith coming out very often. May be a sign of the times as players in all sports seem to "need" more time off. #3 Also agree with. Interesting in that the Bills seem to be one of the few teams in the league that only plays two RB's each week or at least they have a 3rd one to count on to play when needed. But as little as we ran the ball maybe not needed. It also plays somewhat into the first point in that we dress 9 D lineman each week due to the rotations where as most teams only have 8 active so one less active roster spot elsewhere. #2 Don't agree with. We have the #2 already Davis, or maybe Brown IF he takes a big pay cut like in half and is completely healthy and still has the speed, but even then think I'd take the $$ saving and let him go. There's only maybe two or three teams in the league that have two guys put up more receiving yards than the Bills top 2 and that's KC and Seattle, Tenn came close. Whether our 2nd best guy plays as a #2 or the slot, overall doesn't change things that much. Davis also played pretty well as a rookie who likely will improve. The Bills have too much money in the WR position and can't afford much more. Maybe if they can sign Kenny Still for $2 to 3 mil I'd be fine with that, but even McKenzie is likely going to take more than a million to sign himself..

So you figure from half a field away, he lined himself up to be in the camera view? He was just at the edge of the view. If you're going to go to that much trouble why not line himself up front and cent, or just stand 10 feet being Tracy Wilson. Was it strange that he was still out there, yes, but really doubt he was thinking at all about trying to put a spotlight on himself. Likely he wanted to remember what it looked like to be on the winning side so he doesn't forget next year. As was pointed out McD was still out there as asked to do an interview so he stayed. For all any of us know Diggs was there for the same reason, they planned to interview him but then CBS changed their mind due to lack of time. Maybe they asked Allen first and he declined so went to Diggs next. If you want to speculate that he was doing it to grandstand to be in the spotlight, then my argument that it was to be interviewed is just as valid.

Think it's more than a possibility. Without a huge cut in pay, would be surprised if he's back. Likely when the Bills signed Brown to a contract, they were already figuring how in the following years draft which was going to have a deep WR group they'd draft one in the 1st or maybe 2nd round. If they had done that Browns contract would be fine. But once they traded for Diggs, and drafted Davis and Hodgins, think Browns fate is sealed as too much money in the WR grouping even with the rookies.

It got them within 14 points and if the next drive they did score, could have made it 7. If we'd have gone for TD's on those drives and got nothing, we'd have been 20 points behind at the end.

Brown would be great to have back with unlimited money available. But unless he takes a huge pay cut, can't see him back.

Sure but if the TE was catching 7 or 8 balls, that's 7 or 8 less going to Diggs, Beasely and others, If the team was 70 or 80 million under the cap I'd agree, but with limited $$, think there are much bigger needs than TE. Both lines for starters and RB

Sure, but Knox isn't terrible either. 30 or 32 teams would like to have a Kelce

Our defense was bad all year, got a little better 2nd half, but still nothing like past two seasons and overall most of core players were same other than Star. No pass rush all year it seemed, but stat wise, sacks looked good so hard to understand?

So does that mean more completed passes, is Allen going to complete 75% and set an all time record that's never been broken in 100 years?

Watching the game, do you actually feel they would have scored either time. Based on how they looked the only difference would have been instead of losing by 14, they'd have lost by 20. I understand the argument, but tonight the way we played, nothing was being gained by going for a TD other than lose by more.

I agree with RB and D line and also O-line, but TE is the least of the problems. Allen completed almost 70% of his passes. You could add Kelce to this team and doesn't mean Allen is going to complete 75 or 80%. It just means Kelce will get receptions instead of Diggs or Beasley or someone else.

So instead of losing by 14, you'd been happier losing by 20 or 23? Do you actually feel like the Bills could have completed a pass or ran the ball to score? From what I saw tonight, the odds were very low of that happening.

Is hard to explain how/why he looked so much better last season. Not sure if the issue is the run blocking is much worse or something else going on, but entire running game basically doesn't exist?? But agree the biggest things they need to improve in the off season is running the ball and pass rush. Starr should help against the run though we all thought he was horrendous in past years but may have helped more than we realized. But still not enough consistent pressure on QB .