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Pretty much where I’m at with this as well. I didn’t like the contract, not because I don’t think Knox has what it takes to be just outside the 5th best TE in football, but because Allen has never really thrown to his TEs. If Morris came on the field and the offense was unequivocally worse, folks wouldn’t argue the contact, his value would be apparent, but it doesn’t seem we miss much of a beat in the passing game with Morris on the field. You’d like to see Knox jump off the screen with dominating performances, but it doesn’t seem to be the offense’s design, or Allen’s preferred weapon. To that end, I think it is fair to question giving Knox that much money, but if the cap goes up enough to extend other playmakers Allen does lean on, like G Davis, then by all means, enjoy the money, Dawson, and make those periodic big plays when we need them.

Mark me down for a spot. Thanks!

I wonder if Elijah Mitchell could be had now. That guy has juice!

Keenum for Dalton?

Those AZ helmets are sweet. Blood red, looks black at a distance, but up close when the light is on them you can see the crimson color.

I’d say he’s a better receiver than Dawson, with a wider catch radius, but our guy is a better blocker. Both are insanely athletic.

Little Dirty and a 4th, with potential to be a 3rd rounder depending on play time/numbers.

Statistics are just numbers, they have no bias or agenda, it’s simply quantitative data for how a player has performed at his position. The point you continue to miss is that I’ve said they are not an absolute predictor for a player’s success. Too many things that cannot be measured will play a part in that. What those people have done is taken those statistics, gave a comparison for how players at that position fared in the pros and then stated “if he bucked this trend that says all players with numbers in this group never amount to a franchise QB,” it’d be a statement rooted in fact, because up until Allen there hadn’t been any. That makes him an outlier relative to those statistics, regardless of all the other variables that can’t be accounted for. The “why” you alluded to comes from scouting, those looking beyond the stats to form an opinion on the player. I certainly never said that comes from statistics. I mean, it really is this simple: what other QB in the history of the game played at a non-Power 5 school, had limited TDs, passing yardage, & completion percentage, but rose to become one of the two best in the game? None.

Feels like you’re being contrarian for contrarians sake. I did list the categories where Allen fell short amongst his peers, but didn’t look for and post the numbers. I don’t have the energy for that but if you’re interested in finding them, they’re out there. Last time you asked me to provide a report backed with stats that explained why he’d be an outlier if he became a franchise QB and I did, but you then proceeded to dismiss everything that was written and researched. Nothing I can do about that. As far as the comparable argument, the NFL wants to find “the next Josh Allen,” but those players don’t come from comparable situations because first and foremost they almost always come from Power 5 schools. I suppose you could fault the reports for not taking Allen’s numbers and comparing him to QBs who were only outside of the Power 5, but what would that prove? Those guys don’t play in the NFL. The data for those players who fail to make it is as long as the sport has been in existence. He had to be compared to those who were being drafted, which were most likely QBs who played at Power 5 programs. And as I said before, Allen was 2nd team All Mountain West Conference, so there was another QB in that conference in similar circumstances that they felt was more deserving of first team. How did Allen’s numbers compare to that guy?

As I said before, I don’t disagree about Allen’s completion percentage, or with your thoughts in general, stats can never be an absolute predictor… but they do provide historical significance. Those who didn’t believe in Allen didn’t only use his low completion percentage, they used his paltry numbers against Power 5 teams, his limited number of 300 yard games, and his low number of total TDs. It wasn’t just one stat that said Allen isn’t likely to be successful, it was many. To that end, because no one from his background has gone on to do the things he does in the NFL, he became an outlier for those predictive stats. You can disagree with that notion, but the evidence is there. All those asking “can [insert name here] be the next Josh Allen?” Well, only if the situations are comparable (which most likely they’re not) and chances of being the next Josh Allen are incredibly small.

Yeah, we had this discussion before, remember? No statistic anyone presents can be an absolute predictor of success or failure, but it does give a comparison relative to that player’s peers; those who fit within that specific group. If we had a stat that said “every collegiate basketball player who shot 45% from the 3 point line in college, would go on to shoot at least 38% in the pros, but no player who shot less than 35% in college would go on to shoot better than 40% in the pros,” that would be a group statistic and anyone who shot less than 35% in college and became a career 40+% shooter in the pros, would then be an outlier. Allen’s stats in college presented him as an outlier relative to his peers. It wasn’t to say he’d be a guaranteed bust (as many claimed), but it was to say the chances of him being a franchise QB were much less likely based on this data.

I said it before, I thought we were in trouble when we drafted Allen. It was a traits only pick, no player in CFB history with his stats went on to have great success at the NFL level. He was an All 2nd team MWC player (why not first, I asked?) and had dreadful numbers against every Power 5 team. When I heard part of Beane’s process was to look at Allen run a play and think “where would Rosen throw here?” Again I thought, “uh oh.” When I saw his play at Wyoming, I didn’t think he had the mind that could make the game look easy for him. I didn’t audibly “boo” the pick, but did shake my head - but like all draft picks, including Whitner and Maybin, I supported him and hoped for the best. And I’m glad I and the rest of those pessimistic fans were incredibly wrong. Josh Allen is one of one, the first player to greatly defy some of the analytical reports that were put out on him prior to the draft (which drove some statisticians to hate him until recently). “Is [insert name here] the next Josh Allen?” No, most likely not.

This is a classy Chiefs fan, but I love how when reading Chiefsplanet, many of them said “Bills weren’t impressive at all. We missed at least three in the red zone when Pat threw that INT, missed a FG, had a BS pass interference on Kelce, two rookies playing corner, didn’t have our fastest LB Willie Gay, and after all that it took the Bills best effort just to win by four. We’ll smoke them the next time we see them.” So essentially what they’re asking, is for all their mistakes to be erased, all their starters back, and for the Bills to have the same type of game with their injuries, miscues, and mistakes and they’d beat us in that scenario. No ****. Works both ways, we could list all the times the Bills shot themselves in the foot and prevented the game from being a double digit win.

From what I’ve seen of Claypool, he has all the physical gifts in the world, but bad things happen when he’s targeted, sort of like a much bigger McKenzie. I’d pass. If I was the Packers I’d pass too.

I like how Michael Robinson has completely taken on the Bills as his team. He also loves to say he was the first talking head to start pumping them up, long before Kyle Brandt, J Will, and any others.

Going back and watching the highlights I focused in on Edmunds and maybe coincidentally they were some of his poorest plays, but an impact defender he was not. What gets me is the same thing that frustrates me most about his career as a coverage LBer - he almost always puts himself in position to make a play, but always seems content to let his assignment catch the ball so he can run and make the tackle. He never jumps routes. Look at the pass to Kelce right before half, Edmunds runs right up to him and literally waits for him to catch the ball. I’d love to see him drive on the route once he recognizes the open receiver. He’d get far more INTs and PDs.

One poster on Chiefs Planet was saying how he “wishes that thug Von Miller would die.” I mean that’s not even funny in a joking sense. Not to mention all the rape references they have over there. If we had those types of posters here I’d expect them to get banned.

I don’t recall Mahomes ever having issues with batted passes (and he throws shorter more often than Josh) but he does have 5,287 ways to deliver the football.

I suppose it is difficult to legislate intent, hence why the NFL doesn’t do it (men in black to overrule calls notwithstanding), but any major penalty, which is the 15+ yard variety, needs to be adjudicated by a 3rd party. It’s tough when you have someone like Sterratore sitting at home saying “that should not be a penalty,” which echoes the thoughts of everyone else with common sense. Like I said, I hope it happens to Jerry’s Cowboys, preferably against the Eagles in the playoffs, which sends Dallas home. I guarantee we’ll be looking at change after that.

This just in from the Tuesday Owner’s Meeting: League will not back out of “protecting the QB.” I like what Shannon had to say about this. It won’t change until Jerry Jones and the Cowboys get screwed by a (non) RTP call in the playoffs. Article in The Athletic *Also, no one is asking them to back off protecting the QBs, the fans just want RTP to actually be RTP and not routine tackles. It’s a huge penalty that affects the outcome of games.

“Look at the cheerleaders. They don’t even move. They’re trained well.” Don’t say that too loudly in this climate, Baldy, could be cause for cancellation.

I’ve been hearing the linebacker in JAX was leading - Devin Lloyd. But with team success comes more attention, so it sounds like Gardner has overtaken him.

For all the talk this offseason that the young DEs had taken a step forward, AJE and Basham have largely been disappointments thus far. I’d like to have both those 2nd round picks back.

More dime packages coming for sure. Took the Bills forever to get out of nickel, but they have lots of quality DBs.

It was said the Bills ran a lot of dime packages this game. Which LB came off the field? Edmunds?