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Not looking to compare running styles just positions... Just grabbed three high performing RBs who got huffy about not getting the money they wanted and chose to hold out or become a distraction one of them was his brother... to illustrate that it didn't end well for them. You disagree that's fine... but to say to James Cook look at what happened to your brother who seems to be advising you and say comparing him to his own brother is a weak comparison ... I guess we can just agree to disagree. Lastly... I never called him a diva nor at this point do I think he is I am sounding an alarm should he choose that path that others in his position who chose that path ended up irrelevant... he isn't a QB, WR, or game wrecking Edge rusher ... fact of the matter is that his position doesn't carry the tolerance for that stuff then others do... I hope he gets a fair deal I hope he stays and I hope he doesn't choose to become a distraction like the 3 I mentioned... that simple

Not sure i would label Dalvin Cook, Ez Elliot and Le Veon Bell dumpster diving pedestrian journeyman... I am not wishing for cook to go either not sure where you got that from my post. But I do stand by my thought regarding Cook not at OTAs is concerning and that if he takes the path of the 3 I mentioned he could very well end up like them. He is a 2 down smallish back that wants Barkley money and isn't gonna get it from us and almost certainly no one if he sits out becomes a distraction etc... his best bet is to go out there an produce

Bourbon... Cigar... Prayer... not necessarily in that order... LOL...

Gonna need to wait for the spleen to heal... but after that sky is the limit! LOL

Oh I think Dalvin is as good for James as Trevon was for Stephon... but the fact remains Dalvin Diva'ed himself out of relevance..

I honestly dont want to over think this... but not gonna lie, all too often when players who are disgruntled with their contract do this it tends to be a thing... when he starts skipping mandatory stuff then I think its at another level... I will say this to James Cook... be careful dude... lots of 2 down backs under 200lbs out there lookin for work and they dont want 15mm... Diva running backs tend to have an issue.. talk to Dalvin he will tell you. May wanna ring Ezekiel and Le'veon too...

Very fair observation... I dont disagree either....

Honest answer...I just couldnt bring myself to do it... I put him in and took him out twice... I was like... "Too soon" LOL... no more no less but he certainly could have been...

Good we can sit it out and have a bourbon... cause I am right with you LOL...

Lol I love the team too much to ever let myself make pics

Glenn was on the list not sure he got votes I take it back he wasnt

I think it is gonna be how the draft board falls you get a CB to drop that you had rated much higher etc.... I dont think this pre empts them from taking that person. Especially if the DL are really not close to BPA... and the draft is deep there... I think we were taking a DL regardless. This gives you options ASSUMING he makes the team... we dont or at least I dont know the details... but this could be a signing where we see what he has got and if it isnt good enough, he may not make it past training camp.

Yes, I saw the up to thing and I didnt read what was guaranteed... so if he comes out in training camp and just cant do it then maybe there is an out there... which actually I would hope that we would have considered on a prove it/bail us out deal...

I dont think we are going to get a 25 year old Tre... I also do not think we are going to get the Tre that the Rams got with him coming off an achilles... I think you get a guy that is healthier than he was that probably plays better and can do some things... Maybe he is used as a nickle , if the stars align maybe he is comeback player of the year and can be cb2 for a year... I think he will be better than Elam... no matter what. That said, this is a nice chunk of change for a best case cb2 or 3 with history of injuries and likely diminishing skills... but life is not without risk.. we shall see how it plays out... I do know that it is an up to thing, so maybe there is an out if he isnt what we are looking for... either way... nostalgia makes me happy to see him back... lets hope for the best.

and not gonna lie, I confused this by thinking about their Bills career only... so it is a convoluted question in that regard as well... but it has definately sparked some interesting debate... especially on the TO side... only looking at his Bills career probably not making it... but if you look at Lofton and TO thru their entirety they were absolute cream of the crop... but alas... I messed that up... but still fun discussion pre draft/Mini Camp etc...

Agreed, Reed wasnt the deep threat at all that was really Lofton and Beebe... but he had an uncanny first move after a reception... he was an RAC guy for sure..

I keep seeing that looney tunes cartoon in my head... "There's nothing in the rule book that says an elephant cant pitch" ...

- Drafting a 1st Rd RB (not named Jeanty) - Trading up significantly for a RB named Jeanty - Drafting another mid size 1T that cant hold his space because he has a non stop motor - Mutliple trade backs to the 2nd rd to take a corner that has no chance of starting - Over drafting a WR because "he has the best hands they have ever seen" (aka they cant run) - Taking a crazy flyer with a high pick on Isaiah Bond any of the above would be doomsday to me

I cannot see NYC (either Giants or Jets, especially the Jets) embracing a QB with a personality type like this when this QB in my opinion is going to take a couple years to develop and even then I am unsure if he is a franchise guy.... I think they will devour him like a black widow does their mate... just my opinion.

Wow, I love this... you know you are down the rabbit hole when you start debating which average punter was better with a 35 year gap in between them with both sides well aware of the particulars LOL Only in Buffalo... ... ok where I agree.... Chris Mohr and Martin were not world beaters... Nor was Phil Hansen... but as I said in my post... he had an 11 year career, I wouldnt call him 'weak"... he had limited talent but was effective and consistent... Jeff Wright... now that was an abominational weakness... Also, the 3-4 4-3 0r really 4-2 makes the comparisons more difficult.... Also agree Norwood was never an NFL caliber kicker and I blame the coaches for that... That being said... the Bills D in the Super Bowl years to me were clearly more talented and equipped than our current Defense... the coaching Walt Corey in particular was an abomination... If you cant take an HOF DE and 5 other pro bowlers and not finish better than dead last in defense its coaching... not that Babich is much better... I hope he develops.... but lets face it Walt didnt even get a similar job in the NFL when he was let go... Now if you are on the our Defense currently is more talented than Bruce, Biscuit,Conlan,Talley, Smith Odomes, Kazoo etc.. that is fine... I just dont agree... ST is probably close enough to being a non factor in terms of its impact... Norwood missing that FG was hard... but he was never capable of kicking over 42 yards consistently anyways... To me it was the coaching... our coaching in the Super Bowl years was vastly inferior to the questionable coaching McD teams... which is where this hot take all started LOL...

Well I am not sure I totally agree... their nose tackle in Jeff Wright was weak for sure... but you did have one of the best Defensive lineman in the history of football on that line.... Dr Sack and Phil Hansen I wouldnt say were weak. As far as special teams... Steve Christie was clutch and you had maybe one of the best ST gunners in Steve Tasker the league has seen. But very much to your point their OL and NT were not built for the league at the time. Not at all...

Not gonna lie, I was actually surprised that there wasnt more debate over Reed.

I feel like this was a bit of both... but to your point there really was no one in the AFC that dominated like the Bills in those years... but there were a lot of pretenders... Raiders, Oilers, Dolphins, Chiefs, Broncos, none of them were epic teams.... Steelers were another good team but greatness not so much...

Truth and in the end... with a 2 man defensive front daring us to run the ball... I am fairly certain that McD would have absolutely taken that advantage... that Levy did not will go down as one of the greatest failures due to stubborn arrogance as I can ever remember.

I think that is exactly the one I am thinking... we really were not as good as the Skins and Cowboys IMO the Giants on the other hand... that was one of the greatest coaching a%% kickings of all time... I feel like he gets that one done...