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Yeah, it was pathetic, and yeah, it's just preseason. I was especially dismayed by the line play, both offensive and defensive. They were beat up and abused by their Chicago counterparts. I can live with the vanilla play calling of preseason, but the sloppy and weak line play was depressing.

Coleman, MVS (if he makes the team), Mack Hollis and even Shavers are 6'3" or 6'4" with elite catch radii. Curtis Samuel and KJ Hamler both run the 40 in the low 4.3 range. MVS is almost as fast as those two. More to the point, they all have had time to learn the system and develop a rapport with Josh Allen. Juju Smith-Shuster is pretty much an average receiver. If it's the off season and a team is looking for receivers to come in, learn the offense and compete, he'd be a solid signing, but the Bills are past that stage. They have plenty of players competing for maybe 6 roster spots. If camp reports are to be believed, there is a fair amount chemistry that has developed with Josh Allen. If we weren't seeing that, I'd say, "Sign him," but with his lack of elite traits and his inconsistent career (one great season and a couple good seasons with Pittsburgh and one good season in KC with Pat Mahomes, he just doesn't offer enough to sacrifice the chemistry that has already developed with the receivers who are competing for a roster spot.

Pass. Buffalo's receivers may not have a lot of accolades, but they all have traits that scream potential. Juju has been a good receiver when he's been in a good situation, but he doesn't really have any elite traits. I'm guessing there was a reason that the Patriots released him. I just don't see any compelling reason to bring in a guy at this point with no familiarity with Josh or Buffalo's offensive system without more compelling traits or track record than Juju possesses.

I agree, you want your second round pick to contribute and hopefully start.. On the other hand, Hamlin's improvement appears to be legitimate and entirely unexpected. That lessens the disappointment of Bishop's injury and the resulting delay in development.

Dorsey is a bright guy. He did some things that didn't work well with Buffalo's offense, but working with an offensive minded head coach, he has the capacity to learn.

The only path for any of these guys is an injury to someone ahead of them in the pecking order.

Ball security is admittedly a concern for Cook at this point, but I suspect given his history, he's still going to make plays in the passing game. I think he'll play some in the preseason and get some chances to redeem himself.

If I were making the choice, I'm leaning toward Davidson at this point. I think he's more talented. I think the size advantage makes him potentially a more dynamic receiving option and he seems to be doing the little things well in camp. He's blocked well. The punting ability is a bonus. The Bills have an old punter who was ineffective at times last season. It would be nice to have a guy on the roster who could come and punt if your old guy gets hurt or starts struggling to get the ball downfield more than 35 or 40 yards. Davidson can fill in until the Bills can sign a decent replacement.

At some positions, I don't expect to see starters, offensive line for instance. At other positions, particularly WR, there isn't really an established depth chart of any kind. The Bills could hold Shakir out because he has some experience with the Bills, but who are the other starters they should protect. Coleman, a second round rookie? Samuel, a journeyman hoping to jump start his career? Hollis, another journeyman signed in part because of his special teams prowess? I can't come up with any WR they should hold out of the game.

Wasn't sure where to give my take on who will be the receivers for the Bills on the 53 man roster. I don't want to start a new thread too do it. This thread seems to be the best place to do it. Of course there are several locks. Coleman, Shakir, Samuel and Hollis all seem to be locks at this point. My guess is that Shavers is winning the fifth spot based on his play in camp. I think the Bills will keep a sixth receiver. I don't think they'll keep seven. My guess is they would like that las receiver to have some speed. Among the top five, only Samuel is a burner. Shakir is more quick than fast. Coleman isn't the turtle we've joked about, but his game is not based on speed. Hollis is similar to Coleman in the speed department. I think Shavers is too. Both MVS and Claypool have ample speed to go with their size, but Claypool has done nothing in training camp and while MVS has made a few spectacular plays, he's also had more than his share of drops. I think the leaves KJ Hamler ahead in the competition for the sixth spot. He has speed to burn and seems to balance out the size Buffalo has with Coleman, Hollis and Shavers. It gives Buffalo three big receivers and three smaller elusive receivers with some speed among them.

He's not a Buffalo Bill for one reason. The cap.

He gets open some of the time, but I think many times he's making catches with CBs on him or very close in coverage. Receivers can be athletic without being elusive. Coleman is undeniably athletic, but I don't think he's that elusive in coverage.

And quality depth.

Unfortunately, I can't un-see that video clip.

I think there is a pretty decent chance he ends up on the PS.

I think Davidson may have a higher ceiling than Morris. Most of that is due to his height, but he's also very athletic. Morris, of course, has the edge in experience.

Interesting. Keon Coleman is rated the 33rd best player on their board. Interesting. Keon Coleman is rated the 33rd best player on their board.

My sources tell me the name of the show will be "Film Study with Mr. Personality."

Yeah, I saw a quote from him that made it seem as if he thought he was one of the major reasons Rodgers and Mahomes won Super Bowls.

Yeah, I'm guessing blood thinners could make you prone to a lot of contusions in a contact sport, and they would be a lot more severe.

Yeah. There are still going to be plenty of tough games. What we are not seeing, that many outside Buffalo expected, is an offense that in ineffective and boring without an alpha receiver like Diggs. What we're seeing is an offense that can do lots of different things and looks every bit as explosive as it did with Diggs at his best. Maybe we're being fooled, but I think those who predict a step backwards for the Bills may be eating some crow come December.

Beane is not infallible. If Collins turns out to be a mistake, it's not the first one Beane has made and it won't be the last. He's made enough right ones to make the Bills a multi-year division champion. They haven't made it to the conference championship, but they've given KC all they can handle in the regular season and the playoffs too. I'd rather trust him moving forward to get the Bills over the hump than take a chance on who might replace him.

Buffalo had a UDFA, who ran a 4.63 40, start at CB for several seasons (Levi Wallace). He started 9 games for the Steelers in 2022 and signed with the Broncos in April this year.

I think Brady's intention is to get both players comfortable playing inside or out and then to use their flexibility to create mismatches for the defense to have to deal with. I expect the same with Curtis Samuel, except with Samuel, defenses will also have to cope with him lining up in the backfield too.

I think you only have reason to worry is if one side of the LOS is dominating consistently practice after practice. You have to wonder if the domination is happening because one side is weak.