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Allen is going to play if he is healthy and I thought McD was pretty clear about it. Spoke about how disappointing it was that Josh could not finish the game because it would have been a great learning experience. This does not sound like a coach who is thinking of pulling him for any reason.

What exactly do you expect him to say? "Yeah, your right, he sucks, and he never getting in a game again" He is never going to say that, even if they do end up cutting him. If Allen cannot play this week, Peterman will certainly be dressed, and may have to start, if Anderson is not yet ready.

Has he ever been on time for one of these things?

You are not going to find anyone to come in mid-year and there is no way you changing basic systems. The theory would be to shake it up, get a different voice on that side of the ball, perhaps modify the offensive play calling more to the HC's liking - lots of reasons. It would fall to someone on the staff. My guess would be Robiskie. As I said, I am not predicting this or advocating - it just would not shock me.

Daboll may not survive the week. I think it is unlikley McD will fire him, but it would not shock me. This move has been coming in Tampa for a couple of weeks - highly speculated.

On that clip, it does not look as though he had that much of a grasp on him actually. Sounds like more of an excuse for missing the play. He is probably embarrassed. Hughes definitely had Mariotta in the grasp and let him go.

Following Allen's development is pretty much the only reason to watch.

It is quite a bit early to put him in the hall of fame, even a discussion. As far as the comparison to Owens, he is not as accomplished as yet and is an even bigger turd. Not worth the headache and cost in my opinion.

Hope is powerful drug.

Agreed. Everyone should have known this was going to be a frustrating year. No point in getting too high or too low about his or the team's performance any given week. We will know more by the end of the year, and there will hopefully be some entertaining football in the interim.

I wonder if this might have something to do with the betting line?

Generally fair article although I am growing tired of the "least talented team in the NFL" narrative. I do not like these casual generalizations in any arguement and it cheapens his analysis in my opinion. This is clearly not the case on defense, and while a valid argument might be made on offense especially given results, they do have some talent. The problem is the talent at QB is raw and undeveloped and he lacks any consistent playmakers other than Shady. While we all see the problems with the OL, it does not grade out from those that do this as the worst in the league, especially across the board. That is non-sense. (Link to Football Outsiders as of 10/2: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol ) (We are the worst in the league as far as sacks allowed goes, but I think most here realize that Allen bears a fair bit of responsibility for that) RB position is good, and I would argue the tight end group is serviceable if not spectacular. The WR group is an abortion. Jones may one day be a decent slot receiver option if there are other playmakers around him taking attention, but he is not going to be a difference maker in this current team makeup. The rest - yuck. All that said, I agree with his assessment that McD has an ability to get the most out of what he has despite the holes. He gets players to buy in and believe in themselves, and believe in a team concept. If he can maintain this while they continue to build the talent level, we may well have something here.

I thought Star was outstanding yesterday. Definitely doing his job, although the stat sheet will show he was in on one tackle I believe.

Did not know that. Thanks. I will try it today. I dropped Sunday Ticket this year and only have Game Pass so I may try to listen while I float in my pool today.

I feel pretty good about this one. Bills 16/13.

You cannot stream WGR coverage of the game. The NFL does not allow out of market streaming of the games. You can buy radio coverage from the NFL of course. WGR will go silent on their stream about 12:55

So far, results are ... meh. Just calling it like I see it.

Based on what? Some idiotic Internet ranking? Last year he was a coach of the year candidate. Hopefully Bills ownership is a bit more savvy than to place any stock in the opinions of random internet bloggers or fickle fans. Exactly. Moronic.

In the larger context of building a team, which is what he was talking about, building a winning culture is the most important thing in my view, while many seem to disagree. Week to to week strategy of how to beat a particular team, in a given week, is not what he was talking about. That's is actually tactical, not strategic, in the larger context.

I can't decide if I should laugh or cry about this suggestion. Stunning either way. I thought we were finally done with Tebowmania around here. Guess not.

The receivers did not get a chance to drop Peterman's passes since they rarely were on target or on time or both. Your arguments in this thread defy logic. Peterman's performance yesterday was objectively one of the worst ever by a starting QB. On the other hand, of the 9 passes missed by Allen yesterday (6/15), 4 were dropped, 2 or maybe 3 were clear throwaways, and 2 were off target. Even one of those you could put on the WR, as Allen threw to Zay's back shoulder and he was late recognizing it because he was hand fighting with the CB. Call it a miss, does not matter. Plus he was effective running out of trouble. Peterman looked like a noodle armed, scared kid out there all day. I was a kind of surprised actually, but there is no getting around it. He sucks. Maybe someday he won't, but right now, he does.

He would not have made a difference yesterday, and showed absolutely nothing in preseason that would lead me to believe otherwise. WRs not open or dropping passes; poor protection, OL penalties ..... I am not defending Peterman, but AJ would have made no difference in that game.

Certainly seems that way and I am done with him. I supported Tyrod when he was here, and always thought he had more class than he has displayed since he left. Now, f... him.

Is it really necessary to rehash this again? The owner is dead, the GM and money guy are both long gone - just not seeing the relevance. Hey, remind me again why Ralph fired Chuck Knox? Who cares at this point.

Just the latest. They are all bad. He is the king of TBD trolls.