Tanoros

The point your not getting, is your exact comment above could have been said about Andy Reid while with the Eagles. As you know, history is used to help understand the present, and looking back we see Andy Reid grew and developed and later won a Super Bowl on his second team, after his first gave up on him. How many others have grown and learned from mistakes? Can McDermott grow to become a coach everyone considers one of the best of his time? it’s very possible, the opposite is also possible that he doesn’t. However, we know he values the growth mindset greatly, and we’ve seen his growth from year 1 to 6. At this point in time, I don’t see evidence that his growth has stagnated or declined. Do you? If so, what do you see?

No, the 13 second blunder will ALWAYS be a part of his legacy. That’s just the way it is. But, at the same time, 13 seconds doesn’t define who he is, or who this team is. I know I have made mistakes in my career, and I’ve also learned from them, and became better for it. Many times in life, we learn more from mistakes than we do times we don’t make mistakes. That’s what so many on this board overlook, or fail to realize. They act as if we need a coach who is perfect, and never makes mistakes, especially in the biggest of moments. That’s entirely unrealistic. A more realistic outlook, is to have a coach who grows and learns from their mistakes, and gets better for it, and I believe whole heartily that McDermott is that kind of coach!

P.S - Show us some of your comments where you were down on McDermott and Allen before week 1 this season, or even after the first couple weeks of this season. Or did your opinion change after the last few weeks? Most (maybe even you), were very high on this team before the season and in the early parts of this season, now many are down on McDermott and even Allen. That’s my exact point about instant gratification. If we don’t win/boat race every team, many on this board fall apart and point fingers everywhere.

I’m referring to this season alone, ala, “instant”. The tone changed mightily after we’ve lost these last 2 games. Like you said, this is year 5 for Allen and 6 for McDermott, they’ve shown that they can beat anyone, which is exactly why people shouldn’t be overreacting. Both Allen and McDermott have defied expectations since they’ve been in Buffalo (who thought McDermott would make the playoffs year one when he was, “tanking”?). I know many will never let go of 13 seconds, and it obviously wasn’t good. But one moment doesn’t define a person or a team. I’m sure if we look back, we could point out post season blunders from other coaches who have gone on to win a Super Bowl later in their career. I personally, have no reason to doubt McDermott or Allen. They have a growth mindset, and that’s pretty damn evident.

I personally disagree about Davis. He hurt his ankle before our week 2 matchup, missing the game. He played hurt and limited weeks 3 and 4, and the only other weeks he had that weren’t so good are weeks 8 and 9 (GB and NY), with both teams putting their number 1 cb on Davis (Sauce being one of them) and bracketing Diggs. His remaining games were pretty damn good, and the Bills give him a lot of end zone targets. He still has room to grow, like learning to bear those strong man corners. But you can’t look at the stats alone and make a judgement, you have to understand the context. I also think, after the KC playoff game, most expected to see a 1B type of wr, but Gabe is a number 2, however, a really good number 2, who like I said, is still growing and developing. As for the slot, McKenzie, Crowder, and Shakir isn’t a bad way to go into the season and that’s exactly how the majority on the board saw it too. Because Crowder has injury concerns does that mean we should have signed yet another slot guy? I didn’t hear a lot of that before the season started. In just keep seeing alot of people using hindsight and saying we should have done this, or should have done that, when much of what is being said is the exact opposite of what was said before the season started. Personally, I REALLY hope we can get OBJ. He would help open up this offense even more. Him, Diggs, and Davis would be a nightmare to defend.

Most people these days want instant gratification, and if they don’t have it, they look to those that do currently and draw conclusions. Essentially, there is lack of critical thinking, replaced by knee jerk reactions/comments.

Think of all the years of fans saying the same type of sht about Andy Reid before he won his Super Bowl. Remember, he was let go from the Eagles. Coaches grow and develop too, and the Coach (like a player) can’t do it all themselves. It took the right combination of players for Andy to get a Super Bowl (no one thought KC was a Juggernaut when Alex Smith was their QB). Additionally, how many seasons has Andy Reid been a head coach? How many seasons before he won his first Super Bowl? McDermott has best Reid and the Chiefs twice, and we are 13 seconds away from beating them the last 3 times we played. That’s not even close to holding Andy Reid’s jock.

The overall amount of wr depth hasn’t changed too much the last few seasons, we’ve just not been this banged up at wr in many seasons. If you didn’t complain about the amount depth in last seasons, or earlier this season, it seems strange to complain after we’ve taken hits to our wr depth. If this was such an issue, it would have been brought up long ago. When a position group is banged up anyone can look back and say shoulda woulda type comments. Are you one of the posters who has pushed for 7 active wrs? If not, you really don’t have a lot of contribute, your just using hindsight, and anyone can do that. I’m sure Beane wishes he did more using hindsight as well. But we don’t know, it’s all guessing. What we do know, is anyone complaining about the wr depth who didn’t campaign for 7 wr on the active roster, doesn’t really have a leg to stand on now, at this point in time.

Seriously. Many fans here are showing they don’t deserve to root for a good team, to give up on the team after a couple of close losses, that we beat ourselves in. It certainly makes me disappointed in many fellow fans. As if the team has to boat race teams every week for the fans to stay fans, disgusting!

Why even watch or be a fan with a mentality like that? After suffering through the drought, how can so many forget where we were a few short years ago? I watched every Bills game I could during the drought, I love the Bills and this is still the best team we have had in a long time. I love watching this team play, even our losses. We have had 3 close losses to some good teams and the general theme for many is as if we are back to the drought Bills. People like that, will never be happy in life. Enjoy the journey, but if watching a sport gets someone so upset they are unhappy all the time. It’s most likely time to give it up. Personally, as I’ve gotten older, I’ve learned to move in from losses much easier, and even appreciate the close game that are losses like Minnesota or even Kansas last year. As bad as I wanted to win both, I thoroughly enjoy the games that come down to the wire. I’m full of energy, cheering for the team with my daughter. It’s fun! When we win in a blowout, obviously I’m happy, but it’s not the same energy, it’s more quiet and chill. Anyway, it’s best to learn to appreciate the things we can control, while learning to better control our emotions in regards to the things we can’t control.

Every game is it’s own game. Just because we have lost close game in the past doesn’t mean we will continue to. This year specifically, this team hasn’t shown any reason to doubt them in their losses. All of the losses can be attributed to lack of execution on a handful of plays that would have led to a win. We haven’t had any blowout losses like years past. This team can literally hang with anyone, and we have Allen. EVERY season of Allens he has gotten better towards the end of the season. I for one don’t expect this season to be any different. Think back over the years, many of the teams that go on to win a Super Bowl get hot towards the end of the season, including many times the QB playing at new heights down the stretch too. What we have seen from the Bills this season, is that once we clean up the mistakes, we are unstoppable. So we have seen it this season, the Bills just need to be more consistent over the course of a full game. Also, it’s hard to knock the Bills for losing close game when many of their wins are blowouts. They haven’t had alot of close games these last few years. But think back to Allen first two years. He was one of the best at 4th quarter come backs during that time. Allen comes to play in the big moments, and he typically plays very good. I don’t expect the mental mistakes of the last few weeks to be the norm, Allen hasn’t shown any reason to believe that.

Exactly! So many are acting like the sky is falling, but we’ve been right there in everyone of our loses, and if simply cleaning up our mistakes is enough to win any/all of those games. To be quite honest, I’m feeling way better about the team this year vs last year. Not to mention, every season Allen has got better down the stretch, there is no reason to think he won’t do the same this year. Adversity builds character, we want a Super Bowl win, if losing some close games is the cost of building the character our team needs to win it all, then that’s what it takes. Either, my confidence isn’t shaken at all. This team, this season, has shown they can hang with anyone, and can beat anyone when playing mistake free. The Bills literally control their own destiny, and have the tools win it all.

Agree, Allen had Davis wide open on the 3rd down play. No one questions the play calling if we get a TD there. Sure running could have worked, but we called a play that should have been a TD if not for the execution of the players.

The only thing disappointing this season with Poyer are the injuries, his play while on the field, hasn’t been disappointing at all. Besides the injuries, he has battled like hell to play through them, that’s FAR from disappointing. Tell me, what about Poyer this season, other than injuries, has been disappointing?

If he plays, he plays the game. I don’t see them bringing him in for a series or two, that’s what practice is for. Not a live game.

Not only that. Josh is a damn good flopper! And he definitely try’s to draw the hit at times too, just so he can flop and get the penalty call on the D. Josh is the ultimate competitor, he will use every means (legal I’d imagine) possible to win the game.

Did you miss the part about them paying $4 million to use NFL content? It sounds like they just received word it can only be game clips and not logos. It’s a little misleading by the NFL to not make that clear when someone is paying millions to use their content, like noting what can and can’t be used.

I believe he is referencing the jet sweep td by McKenzie in the Packers game. The jet sweep in the video by Hines has a similar look, Eric’s trying to say Hines might be doing some McKenzie stuff.

100% agree with this take. Spending more time with the young wr would have only helped, regardless of what the players have the right to skip out on.

I forgot all about that, but I remember after reading. I can see why many would hold a grudge, but that was many years ago and I don’t even think we have any players left from that Bills team. Beckham was 22, and I’m sure he has been humbled some since that time. If the current Bills players/staff want him here, I do too.

This is a common failure for any industry though. It’s so common to see people hired into a leadership role because of their knowledge/skill doing X job very well. However, like you mention, leading a group of people is very different from actually doing the work. This failure in hiring the right person (people leader) definitely isn’t exclusive to the NFL. I’ve seen it all the time in my career (construction).

In the past I’ve read one of the biggest indicators of success, is who you know. In my personal experience I’ve hired someone I’ve worked with before vs someone I didn’t, simply because I knew what I was getting and I was happy to have it.

OBJ should definitely be brought in if he will come. McKenzie has struggled some and although Shakir has looked good, he is a rook. OBJ looked good before injury and him, Diggs, and Davis would be very hard to handle. Imagine Allen with those 3 weapons, that would be very fun to watch. He would also provide good insurance.

Is SF defense still banged up? They only had 4 of 11 defensive starters last week and I believe one of those 4 was lost due to concussion.

Perhaps, but look at this board. It’s not like that and I’m sure the Bills have had many band wagon jumpers in the last couple of years. The mods here do a fabulous job and I think that’s part of what’s missing on their board, lack of leadership setting the tone, causing the place to spiral out of control.