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Good point. His biggest moves in the first were Josh and Diggs.

Williams is looking like a nice option if we are able to snag him. Him, Diggs, and Davis would be very hard to handle (especially when throwing Knox into the equation). I’m very curious to see what we do at cb before the draft. They have to sign someone, even if it’s just a depth signing. A BPA approach at 25 has the chance of landing us a very good player regardless of position. Whatever we do, I just want to see a pick who contributes to us winning the Super Bowl this season 😉 however that contribution is.

There are a number of reasons. We could go cb, or another position. Or we could even take another wr. Who knows who the Bills value the most. I’m not saying I’m against Watson. I’d love a wr like him added to our team. I’m just pointing out it’s not like we have a couple options. With the Digg’s new contract, I could see the Bills valuing a wr who has major slot potential. I know Williams does, but does Watson also have slot potential? The draft can’t come soon enough. I can’t wait to see who is added to our team. To be fair, he said first round, so you have to add Edmonds too 😆 Either way, Beane values talent and not necessarily defense or offense.

I would have liked Bobby Wagner as the vet fill in. Too bad. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens with Edmonds. If he gets resigned, even at a reasonable deal, this place will be wild 🤣 Personally, I want to see more from our mlb, but I understand it’s not a given either.

I completely understand your rationale, and if the Bills have a target in mind who could replace him with little to no drop off, I’m sure they make the move for the reasons you stated. It’s just, I find it highly unlikely this staff is going to feel that comfortable about a rookie. Especially when don’t have anyone decent enough on the roster as it is. We never know about Beane, and I can imagine it would irritate him to let Edmonds walk away for nothing. Like most things, there will be several factors in making a decision like this. Whatever Beane does, it better keep us strong for a super bowl push this year.

Your example of Whaley taking a patchwork type of approach is a good one. That seems to be one of his biggest mistakes team building wise. Beane’s approach was greatly aided by us making the playoffs year 1 (even though he didn’t draft that year). Imagine if we didn’t make the playoffs that first year, while “tanking”. Going into year 3 (year 2 for Josh) and Beane’s seat would have been getting warm. I’m glad everything worked out the way I did though.

I find certain clips, like the Bills playoffs hype videos cool. But otherwise, I find much more meaningful football discussion in places like this forum. I find GMFB for the most part, parrots all of the media (NFL media coverage) talking points. Nothing very illuminating coming from that show for me personally.

We are all in on a super bowl this year. Unless the Bills can bring in someone equal to or better than Edmonds, he isn’t being moved before this season. Who replaces Edmonds? For sure he could be better, but he also plays a vital role to our defense.

This draft doesn’t have very much elite talent, so it doesn’t make sense to move up to get a top tier prospect who wouldn’t even be top tier most drafts. Cheap starters are going to play a pivotal role moving forward, so trading 1st round draft picks should be as a last resort type of thing. We should have good options at corner at pick 25 and the difference between what our options are at 25 vs what it costs to move up, isn’t enough to make it worth it. Most mocks have Kyler Gordon available at 25, and I’d love him as the pick. I’d be very shocked if we move up in the first. If we do, I’d be even more shocked if the move up was more than a handful of spots.

I had high hopes for him last season and it would be great for him to take a step forward. But honestly, at this point we can’t value him any more than Hodgins, both of them haven’t done anything in the NFL. This years camp will be huge for Stevenson, he’ll be fighting to make the team though. Who knows where the Bills draft a wr this season, but with our offense it feels like we should probably snag at least 1 wr every draft and keep a nice healthy pipeline in place. WR’s are being paid crazy money and Josh is going to make a lot of guys some money, so we need guys waiting in the wings.

You don’t bank on replacing Diggs with a rookie and getting even close to Diggs level production year 1. Anything less than Diggs level production is greatly hurting our chances at a SuperBowl. This is no time to be playing the long game, if so, it was pointless to pick up Von who’s contract will keep us from signing some of our own in the next year or two (meaning, more holes that have to be filled). For us in a Super Bowl window, I would be ok trading future draft picks, I’d be much happier with that than trading a starter, to just make a hole. What your saying is very true, but is also very counterproductive to winning a Super Bowl this season. I’m fine with a long term approach, but I’m not fine with that approach after signing Von. It would signal the front office is a little scattered (maybe owner meddling because of the stadium deal?).

Why would we trade Diggs in a year we are making a super bowl push? That would greatly hurt our chances, and who knows how Gabe would do with number 1 wr attention. I see it as highly unlikely we make a move up in the first round, unless it’s just a handful of spots. I also, don’t see us making a hole, to fill the same hole or another. I could see moves like this IF we didn’t sign Von Miller and we were taking a more long term approach. But the Von signing signals we are making a push in the next season or two.

I don’t think that would be nearly enough to trade up to the either of the Giants picks. We’d have to throw more picks into the trade package. As nice as Hamilton would be, we’d still have a hole at corner, and most likely the trade up suggest would cost us our second and more, which means less chance to fill the hole at corner.

What assets does Beane use to trade up for a corner in the first? Unless he uses picks only, he would be making a hole. The only vets worthy of trading up in the first are starters, which means making a hole, to fill a hole. I don’t see Beane doing anything like that. For instance, if we trade Edmonds, who fills Edmonds spot? I think it’s more likely we trade up into round 2 or later, but not the first round. I just don’t see how we can pick up Von and not be all in on a Super Bowl push. You don’t make holes (even to fill another whole) when making a run for a super bowl. No rookie is guaranteed, but a starter (even ones who can do better) are a known commodity, and those starters are part of a team that should have made it to the AFC championship minimum last season.

I just can’t see us making a hole that has to be filled in a year when we are making a super bowl push. For instance, trading Edmonds for a lber makes sense in the long term, but not for our chances this season, especially if we trade picks too, because it’s then less chances to fill depth. I would prefer trading future assets vs making a hole that is filled by a rookie. The Bills must have their eyes on a player or a couple who might not be there at 25 and we may have to move up a bit and this is Beane doing his due diligence prior to the draft (kind of like how we had a tentative deal with the Broncos in 2018 draft). Lastly, I just can’t fathom trading a starter for someone like Williams. We’d get no immediate ROI while also making a hole. That would not help us make a super bowl push this year. This is an excellent point. It doesn’t say first round, and it seems like day 2 (second and third round) are where teams can get some good value too. I really would like 4 picks in the first 3 rounds.

That’s exactly what I’m thinking. Most likely corner, but could be the positions you list or even rb like Hall. It’s going to come down to someone the Bills feel will make an impact day 1. I was just being generous when I said special teams minimum, because you just never know with rookies and there has to be a floor expectation for a first round pick.

Agree. I feel like with where we sit currently, whoever our first round pick is, they need to be someone who can come in and contribute day 1, even if that’s on special teams and depth at offense or defense. We are primed for a super bowl run and we need all hands on deck.

I for sure think he proved he can be the number two to Diggs. It seemed like the Bills gave him that opportunity down the stretch and into the playoffs and he did it. Gabe has a huge season coming up. He has a big opportunity to make a name and earn that big payday, even if it ends up being a slight hometown discount 😉 I cross my fingers that he does. He has Allen throwing to him, so he will have all the opportunity in the world. You are absolutely right about his sideline footwork. Can’t believe his level of awareness as a rookie, empirically in the Colts game. But he has always showed good sideline footwork.

The whole race issue has gone too far currently. I’m married to a non white woman (I’m white), and she is also from a different country. Her and I talk all the time of about the “soft” racism she experiences all the time. When I say soft racism, I mean people being overly nice or going out of there way to make comments about her skin, hair, clothes, whatever. It’s cool that people are nice, but at the same time, it’s so awkward and feels so forced. The funny thing is, it wasn’t this until the last handful of years and we live in a VERY liberal area. When we visit family in non liberal areas, she is treated just like a normal person, no special treatment, but also no aggressive racist treatment either. The current culture surrounding racism is such that now people are swinging in the opposite direction and being overly nice to those who are non white. That also isn’t right. People are people, and that’s how we as society need to see others. People should be treated based on they are as a person, not race. Also, why does there have to be labels like, “African Americans”, “Chinese Americans”, “latin Americans”, we are all Americans. These labels only further division. In an effort to solve racism, we are creating more racism. That’s not the answer.

This is what I don’t like about practices like this. I want to get job or be rewarded for my actions, but getting a job based on my race would have me wondering, “did I really earn this”? In a way, it feels like this is cheating people out of a sense of accomplishment. I work in the construction industry, construction safety specifically. The projects with the best safety rates, are the ones with the best safety culture, everyone is bought in. But that culture is created over night, it takes time and by in by leadership. I see diverse hiring practices in a similar vein. The culture surrounding the hiring of minority candidates needs to be fostered to where those hiring are truly picking the person who is the most qualified, regardless of race/sex. In this case, the NFL has bad PR surrounding this issue and they are forcing a quick solution in order to change their image, with little thought towards the future.

This is how my daughter is. She was brought home from the hospital in a Bills outfit. She was born late August and she was in my arms watching Josh Allens first pro game. My daughter is not only a Bills fan, but a HUGE Josh Allen fan. Her and I watch every Bills game together, and we celebrate like crazy when good things happen, but especially good Josh Allen plays. She always wants him to get td’s 🤣 How lucky is she to grow up in the Josh Allen era?

I grew up in Alaska, and because the 90’s Bills were so good, there gear was sold in the stores. I picked a Bills backpack going into kindergarten thinking it was a moose, only for my mom to tell me it was a Buffalo. When I got home, my dad explained that it was a football team. After that, I started watching football with my dad on Sundays, but I was most interested in seeing Bills games and they were on often enough. After getting the backpack, it didn’t matter how good the team was, I was hooked. I became an obsessed football fan from a very young age. As an example of how Bills crazy I was. When they weren’t good anymore, they were not on the tv anymore (rarely). So I was on NFL.com every weekend watching the play by play on the old school game cast. Internet was so bad, I had to constantly refresh the page to see what was happening. That’s how I watched the majority of my Bills games in my youth. Then sport center for the highlights on Monday morning.

Lol! Well atleast we very well could have the best of the bunch 😉 Well the hiring of Kromer is hopefully the signal that this is what McDermott is thinking too.

I’m so curious to see what we do at cb. This will be very telling for us long term how the Bills value cb (or Tre is making a remarkable recovery). I kinda want to see us get 3 picks in the first two rounds, which most likely with 2 second round picks. So either a trade up, or a trade down (then still moving around a bit to get “our” guys). There’s a good chance we can get a good cb at 25 and then move up and get Hall. That would be a great scenario for us.

Your a Breece Hall in the first guy right? I’ve been warming up to that possibility myself. Either way, I just want our team to come out of the draft with atleast 1 playmaker and a couple solid starters/depth pieces. If the playmaker is a cb, wr, rb, whatever, I just want someone who will make an impact year 1 and help push us over the top.