Billl

They’re so well run that they’re 4-8 when Lamar doesn’t play.

Ravens are 45-16 with Lamar starting. They’re 4-8 without him.

$133 million guaranteed simply isn’t in line with the market for a QB of his level. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34096853/highest-paid-nfl-players-tracking-most-money-guaranteed-per-year-every-position

Nobody would be complaining about Watson’s contract if he was balling out. It’s a bad contract because he’s been a disaster on and off the field. Lamar has been great on and off the field. Why should he pay for Watson’s crimes when every other mediocre at best QB is cashing in?

He was offered a borderline top 10 contract that would have been well below market.

Something about Lamar Jackson makes people lose their minds. In no universe is he worth less than Daniel Jones, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, etc.

Big Black Bock

I never watched Edmunds and came away impressed with him as a player, but I can’t deny that the team’s performance was dramatically better when he was in the lineup compared to when he wasn’t. He was going to get a bag from someone that the Bills couldn’t match. It’ll be interesting to see if he earns it.

Allen’s contract is increasing at a rate that exceeds the salary cap increase, but it’s still not really an issue. Miller’s is potentially problematic in that he’s going to be a big cap hit in the near future, and the likelihood of that turning into an albatross is considerable given his age and injury situation. If you cut a player, all of that money that’s been restructured comes due immediately in terms of the cap hit so there’s potentially a lot of dead money sitting out there.

If you're looking to corner the market on guys who have been mostly disappointing other than a monster game in a loss against the Chiefs, he's the missing piece.

Tyreek Hill isn’t really all that fast when you put it in context.

Sustainable? He was terrible, and they still scored 31. You’d be hard pressed to find a less capable QB than Skylar Thompson, and they still produced. That is one of the best rosters in football. When Tua is healthy, they’re at worst slight underdogs in every game. When he isn’t healthy, they’ve still got a puncher’s chance. Now they aren’t good enough to win a Super Bowl with a backup, but neither is anyone else. They’re perfectly capable of making the playoffs if Tua misses 4 games in the regular season. This move absolutely closes the gap a bit. I still think the Bills are the favorites to win the East even if NY signs Rodgers, but at this point I’d take the field.

Okay, Homer. Keep trying to convince people that the guy who’s been first team All-Pro twice in the past 3 seasons isn’t elite.

They scored 31 with Skylar Thompson in the playoffs.

Congrats on watching Ramsey play the last 2 years and coming to the conclusion that he’s not elite. He was first team All-pro two seasons ago and helped the Rams win a ring. You’re not going to find a discussion about the best CBs in the NFL that doesn’t include JR.

I don’t see what it being a Bills board has to do with people saying that Jalen Ramsey sucks. I’m a Chiefs fan, and I have no problem understanding that he’s an elite player. It’s one thing to say that the Bills will still win the division. It’s another to pretend that guys like Aaron Rodgers and Jalen Ramsey suck.

I may have misinterpreted your post, then. I took it as arguing that Fangio wasn’t a good DC. If that wasn’t your intent, then I apologize. The amount of people around here claiming that pretty much everyone not under contract for the Bills sucks is astounding, though. Aaron Rodgers, Tua, Bradley Chubb, Jalen Ramsey…bunch of bums. Then a poster involved in the same back and forth with Einstein was dumping on Fangio as well. It’s pretty wild.

So your opinion is that Vic Fangio isn’t a good DC? I guess it’s not enough that no teams other than the Bills have good players. Every other team’s coaches suck as well.

Only the Bills have good players.

Watched him have career highs in passes defended, interceptions, tackles, and sacks in 2022.

Done deal

He’s 28 and just had the best season of his career. He’s absolutely elite.

Squandered? They won two championships during that time. Josh has played 5 seasons, and the closest the Bills have come was a blowout loss in the AFCCG. You think he's going to retire with more rings than Rodgers or Favre?

I think you should act intentionally and get the player your scouts and coaches have identified as an elite player. You think they should be passive and accept the best of whatever is left because it’s cheaper. We have different mentalities.

He's set to make $11m more in 2023 than Saffold made in 2022. Why would it be a good idea to spend an additional $11m to upgrade the Guard position while creating a hole at LT?