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The Bills lose to the Bengals 27-10 and everyone walks away talking about the defensive failings. Football fans are funny.

Yeah, but they were really close, 😛. He got 12/14 playoff teams right and hit the Super Bowl winner. He also nailed Seattle’s record, Kansas City’s defensive ranking and Mahomes’s stats. That’s pretty solid.

These three were pretty good. dp only made two picks, but they were solid. Turk hit it out of the park, though his picks weren’t terribly bold. Zero may be the overall winner of the thread. The rest of y’all…should keep your day jobs.

It sounds like he’s suggesting that allowing 30 points to a team like the Chiefs is just the price of admission, so you may as well focus on building a team that can score 30+ and work backwards from there. Here’s what the Chiefs have scored in the postseason with Mahomes. 9 22 (Mahomes left due to an injury against the Browns) 23 (Mahomes was severely limited against the Bengals) 24 27 (Mahomes went out with an injury against the Jaguars) 31 31 31 35 38 42 42 51

Andy Reid has been doing it for the last several years as well, sometimes by choice and sometimes by circumstance.

Good point. I would submit that the needle a team like Buffalo has to thread is how to reinvent itself without a complete tear-down. You simply can’t improve relative to the rest of the league by running it back with the same core of players when they’re just a year older and exponentially more expensive. So the question becomes where do you make changes? You’re not changing QBs, obviously. Literally everyone else should be on the table. If the Chiefs can trade Tyreek (and I’ll grant you that it’s a move that was only made possible due to the fact that they had already banked a Super Bowl), then the Bills can walk on Edmunds. If you’re wanting to get creative, I’d be shopping Milano as well. He’s a valuable player with a favorable contract, but he plays a position that can be schemed around. IMO, paying Edmunds a big contract is waving the white flag on 2024 and beyond. In 2023, Buffalo should be starting Terrell Bernard along with Cook, Basham, Epenesa, and Elam. If you can’t win with those guys, then Beane should be fired. 2022 was the all-in year. Going back to the ATM to run it back in 2023 is just throwing good money after bad. If shedding payroll at MLB frees up capital to grab another weapon for Josh, then that’s what you do. If it winds up sinking the defense, then you weren’t winning anything anyway.

One of us doesn’t seem to know NFL football, I’ll grant you that. One of can tell the difference between 47 TDs and 8,300 yards passing the past two seasons and 15 TDs and 4,000 yards over the same stretch, though. The Jets are loaded with young talent up and down the roster, but they’ve had historically awful QB play the past 2 seasons. Whether you want to admit it or not, filling that hole with a quality veteran like Carr makes them a better team. It’s bizarre that you want to pretend otherwise. Frankly, it’s a really bad take. It’s no different than saying that if Allen gets hurt in the offseason that we have no idea if that would make the Bills better or worse next year.

Seems like letting him walk and get overpaid by someone else is a pretty easy decision.

It tells me that those teams improved from 2021 to 2022 but that they weren’t quite to Buffalo’s level. You put a competent QB on the Jets, and they likely would have won both games last season. If Miami had a guy like Carr playing QB in the playoffs instead of Skylar Thompson, the Bills would have been bounced in the first round and the offseason meltdown on here would be off the charts. Meanwhile, we’ve got people here acting like it’s no big deal if the Jets sign a capable QB because the Chiefs still won the division after Denver signed Russel Wilson, as if that has any bearing on the Bills. The last time I checked, Kansas City has been to 3 Super Bowls in 4 years with 2 championships and has hosted 5 straight championship games. The Bills have made it out of the Divisional round once under this regime, and that was 3 seasons ago. Are the Bills really such a superior organization that they can laugh at up and coming division rivals as they make huge improvements at the most important position in sports? Looking at the roster and schedule, they look a lot like an 11-6 type team to me give or take a game. Playing against Carr twice a year instead of Mike White and Zack Wilson could make a big difference over the next several seasons.

The Bills played 5 games against the Dolphins and Jets last year and out scored those teams by 9 points combined while those teams started 4 different QBs. It’s interesting that so many here think that Buffalo is going to run roughshod over these teams next season.

I get what you’re saying. Just seems unlikely that a guy in that situation would decide to spend a year in Buffalo. He’s played his entire career in Tampa and went to school in Texas. If he’s really a year from retirement, he’s not going to Western NY.

They handed or threw him the ball 390 times. That’s exactly one TD per 30 plays at 4.8 yards apiece.

If he was considering retirement, wouldn’t he do it before uprooting to Buffalo for a year?

If you trade for Evans, he’s going to want a new contract, and he’ll have all the leverage. You’re looking at something like 3/$70.

Getting fired after going 7-10 is a far cry from getting fired after winning the division for 3 straight years and losing in the divisional round. If you fire a coach who just went 13-3 and won a playoff game, the job would be looked at as a career killer.

Totally agree. If they were picking CB no matter what, they should have traded up for McDuffie. Basham over Humphrey made no sense, and I really liked Boogie. It was a weird pick.

What top coaching candidate is going to take the job if McDermott were to get fired after the amount of success he’s had?

Maybe. Or maybe they’d take the second best guy on their board if he’s at a position of need. If that guy turns out to be a good player and fills a hole, that’s a much better pick than grabbing the best backup C in the league. You’ve got to get your players on the field while they’re cheap when you’ve got a top of the pay scale QB. If McBeane doesn’t figure this out with a quickness, they’re about a year away from tearing it down around Josh and starting over.

Bad plays happen to every QB. It’s a matter of frequency. Mahomes threw 100 passes and rushed 12 times in three postseason games. He didn’t throw any interceptions, and that was his only fumble. Josh threw 81 passes and rushed 12 times in two postseason games. He threw 3 interceptions and fumbled 3 times. That’s a massive difference.

Probably not, but that doesn’t mean they need to draft the solution two years in advance. By the time he gets on the field, you’d be having this same conversation about drafting his replacement.

There is literally zero chance that the Chiefs would consider a C on day 2. None.

When the best player on the board is also at a team’s biggest need, they should trade up for that player. Best player available is critical, but players are only cheap for 4 seasons. In today’s NFL, you can’t afford to sit players and waste their cost controlled years backing up established starters. It doesn’t have to be a decision of BPA versus need. It should be both, and GMs need to be savvy enough to move up and down the draft board to find that fit. It’s what I think Kansas City did in moving up for McDuffie when they needed a CB and Trent was easily the highest player at any position left on their draft board. I don’t think that Elam was the highest player on Buffalo’s board, but he was the highest CB so they went and got him.

Are you guys serious? He’s averaged 4.3 YPC for the past 2 seasons while taking an absolute beating. This board is clamoring for OBJ, Bobby Wagner, and Derrick Henry to join Von Miller. Did I go back in time to 2017? If so, here’s a tip. When Andy Reid calls two months from now, don’t answer the phone.

Josh Allen AYA in 2023: 7.7 Joe Burrow AYA in 2023: 7.6 Josh Allen AYA in the divisional round: 5.21 Joe Burrow AYA in the divisional round: 7.83 So what you're saying is that you just make up whatever narrative fits your agenda, gotcha.

Bills fans massively overstate the offensive line issues. The bigger issue is that Josh tends to be a slow decision maker. The difference between how quickly Burrow got rid of the ball compared to Allen when they played was striking. Singletary, Cook, and Moss all averaged over 4.5 YPC, so they can clearly run block. They may not be great in pass protection, but they are much better than they're made out to be on here. Anyone who thinks swapping out a few linemen is suddenly going to make a huge difference is delusional.