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Did the Bills pursue Drue Tranquill at all? He seems like he’d have been a great fit, and he signed for 1 year $3,000,000.

If they’d declined Oliver’s fifth year option, they’d be in a fine position to sign his replacement. You could get similar production for a fraction of his price tag.

He’ll never have another chance to draft in the top 10 at least.

Paying great players doesn’t wreck salary caps. Paying mediocre players does.

I think Beane is the one whose seat should be getting warm.

I'm with you on most of this. I tend to think Josh's injury is overblown around here, but that's a different discussion. The question becomes what version is a better representation of who the Bills will be going forward, week six versus postseason. I think it's the latter. I don't see guys like Von, Micah, DaQuon, and Jordan all looking like their younger selves coming off of injuries of batting degrees. They'll still likely be effective players early on the season other than Von, but the the goal is to win in week 23. If they are injured and/or less than 100% by the end of the season again, it's not really bad luck.

It was a joke about how drafting guys who don't give up sacks and drop passes is some sort of strategy.

It’s worth mentioning that the over 10.5 is -125, so it pays less than even odds.

I don’t think you’re reading too much into it at all. Beane has decided that he wants Linemen who don’t give up sacks and Receivers who don’t drop passes. I think it’s brilliant.

That would screw small market teams so bad. They already can’t host Super Bowls, and then they wouldn’t be able to host championship games? I just can’t see that happening. Too much revenue lost for the smaller teams.

It wasn’t murderer’s row or anything, but they went 5-0 against non playoff teams and 3-1 against playoff teams during the second half of the season. For comparison, the Bills went 6-1 against non playoff teams and 1-1 against playoff teams during that same stretch.

What tweet?

Yeah. There was a huge thread called something like The only Mahomes thread you’ll ever need. That was about 200 Mahomes threads ago.

A large faction o TBD sure seemed to think he was a huge reach.

This is the part that some here seem to struggle with. The Bills WERE the best team in the league the first half of the season. They were a plug and play team of veteran players. Early in the season, that’s a huge advantage over teams like Cincinnati and Kansas City who have young rosters full of talented players who are still acclimating to the NFL. The downside is that those veteran teams don’t get better as the season progresses. They don’t have to gel because they already know their roles and responsibilities. Instead, they tend to wear down as the season progresses, and they don’t bounce back quite as well as they used to. The young teams do tend to get better, particularly when they’re coached well. The game slows down for them, and the coaching staffs can install more of their game plans as the season progresses. The younger athletes can shake off some of the bumps and bruises that their veteran counterparts can’t. This is why pointing at a week 6 game where the Bills trailed until the last minute of the game is pointless. The Chiefs won 13 of 14 from that point on while the Bills tapered off as their players wore down. They still went 8-3 which is very good, but the eye test told you that they weren’t the dominant team they were before the bye. I’ve got a feeling that 2023 is going to look similar in a lot of ways. The Bills will likely look very crisp coming out of the gate, as most of the team already knows the system having played in it for several years. The question will be how will they look 20 weeks into the season.

Because he spiked a fake trophy?

The original thread on the KC message board from when Kelce was drafted is pretty funny. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=272536

I’ve already acknowledged that injuries matter. Old players with injury histories are more likely to get injured again. It’s why, after the Buccs Super Bowl, the Chiefs replaced all 5 starters on the OL. They learned from the loss and now they’re champions again after not allowing a sack to the most dominant pass rushing team in the league. In 2021, Buffalo torched the Chiefs secondary in the playoffs. The Chiefs responded by adding 2 new Safeties and 3 new Corners. The Bills haven’t done that after getting “OBLITERATED” by the Bengals in the divisional round. Hyde, Poyer, Miller, and White are all being counted on heavily to have bounce-back years, and 3 of those guys will be 32 years or older next year. They’re all really talented guys, but the odds of them getting hurt or simply wearing down again are substantial. Buffalo had the oldest roster in the league last season, and they’re going to be older this year. They’ve got 7 players expected to be starters who will be 30 or over. Kansas City has 1. Buffalo had 11 players over 30 start games last year. The Chiefs had 2 (Carlos Dunlap started 2 games.) I don’t have to pretend that the Chiefs are in a tier above the Bills. The Chiefs have gone 11-3 in the postseason the past 5 seasons with two championships and are 2-0 against Buffalo during that span. The Bills are a really good team, but they’re in the second tier with the Bengals, Eagles, and 49ers right now. If you don’t believe me, check the Vegas odds. Sorry you have such a problem with me saying that I think there is a gap in a thread asking whether or not the Bills have bridged said gap. You’re free to disregard my posts rather than specifically messaging me asking me to elaborate. Just because you don’t like my conclusions doesn’t mean that I’m being unreasonable. The Bengals and Chiefs are loaded with young talent. The Bills are loaded with old talent. That was true last year, and it’s going to be true this year. Doesn’t mean the Bills can’t still win a championship, as they’re still among the favorites. They are likely to experience injuries to key players, though.

You don’t believe that there’s a gap between the Bills who just got dog walked in the Divisional round and the team who has been in 3 of the last 4 Superbowls with 2 championships. I disagree. The last 4 years, the Chiefs have either beaten the Bills in the playoffs or beaten the team that did the following week. Kansas City was decimated by injuries in the Super Bowl against Tampa. They responded by replacing all 5 starters in the offseason. Buffalo has had issues with injuries to Tre White, Von Miller, Micah Hyde, and Jordan Poyer. They’re all back, and three of the four are well into their thirties. Kansas City was a very healthy team last year. They also had 12 major contributors who were 22 years old or under. Buffalo had the oldest roster in the league. There’s a pretty strong correlation between age and injury. I don’t think Beane has done a very good job of replacing aging veterans with younger players who can pick up where they left off.

https://larrybrownsports.com/football/video-stefon-diggs-throws-helmet-anger/531588

I swear it's like summer of you wait three months to watch the draft just to complain about every single possible thing. What's the point?

How is it idiocy? They can afford it while their core is young and cheap. Von and Diggs are set to make around $52 million in 2024. Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson will make less than $15 million. When your best non QB players make that little, it frees up a lot of cap space. Idiocy would be wasting the cheap years of guys like Quinnen Williams, Gardner, Wilson, Breece Hall, Elijah Moore, Alijah Vera-Tucker, etc. with a bad QB.

Almost like it was a negotiation. All of the amateur agents around here were ripping him for not signing the 5 year deal with $133 million guaranteed. Lamar is smarter than those people.

This has been a fun re-read.

I’m sure they’re carefully crafting their apology letters to us.