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Those people are wrong. Herbert doesn't belong in the same conversation as Josh.

He's a DT, not a DE, but those are both incredibly important positions that absolutely move the needle in terms of wins and losses. Kansas City has exactly one defensive player with a big contract, and it's Chris Jones, a DT. Their formula isn't the "stars and scrubs" model that so many here talk about. It's superstars and draft. You can afford to pay massive contracts to superstar players if you're able to get excess value elsewhere. One of the biggest differences between the Bills and the Chiefs is that the Chiefs have a ton of players whose production far exceeds their contracts. The Bills have Gregg Rousseau, and that's about it. Beane has got to start finding players in the draft who can be difference makers who can give you multiple seasons of production under their rookie contracts. It's far and away his biggest weakness as a GM. Justin Herbert ain't that guy. He's Phillip Rivers, Dak, Cousins, etc. He's always going to tease you into thinking he's elite, but I don't think he's ever going to take that final step.

I really don’t see him not getting extended. He’s the only defensive player on the team making any money, so it’s pretty easy to pay him. Justin Reid is the next highest paid, and he’ll be gone after this season. They drafted 6 players last season who will either start or get a large amount of playing time on defense this year which gives them a ton of cap flexibility.

Three years into their careers, you could have said the same thing about Baker versus Josh. The reality is that Ed is what he is…a pretty good but unremarkable DT. There’s been zero indication that he has some heretofore untapped level of ability to be a dominant player, though. There’s nothing wrong with that. He’s going to have a long career in Buffalo, and he’ll be well regarded by the Bills Mafia 20 years from now and mostly forgotten by everyone else. Quinnen Williams is a 25 year old emerging superstar that opposing DCs have to game plan around. He got paid 40% more than Oliver, but he’s twice the player. You know what’s more concerning than breaking out in a 4th season? Having 4 years and never breaking out.

Very shrewd of Beane to avoid drafting defensive linemen who will command large second contracts. No idea why this needs to be said every time a great player gets a big contract, but teams don't get into salary cap hell due to paying superstars big money. They do it by overpaying mediocre players.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/03/06/broncos-von-miller-investigation-colorado/

How in the world does Philip Rivers have more of a claim?

…to say nothing of the fact that QBs who run still take the same hits in the pocket. They just take additional hits when they run. It’s like people forget that fact of life. Plus injuries are cumulative. It’s not like Cam’s career went to hell over one specific hit. He absorbed years of punishment that eventually caught up with him. At what age do QBs stop getting injured from hits they take when running?

Josh is the better player. I’m not disputing that. But they’re very similar, and the talent level is FAR closer than most on here are giving Cam credit for. If Josh were to take a serious injury this season that impacted him for the rest of his career, they’d be remembered nearly identically other than Cam has an MVP and played in a Super Bowl. Check out the first minute of this video if you’ve forgotten just how amazing peak Cam really was.

So the Dolphins are a joke because their QB is injury prone. By the end of last season, the Bills were without Von Miller and Micah Hyde while Josh Allen, Jordan Poyer, and Tre White were all limited due to injuries. Should I assume that’s completely different and the Bills should all be expected to bounce back because reasons?

It’s a little ironic that so many people seem to think it’s an insult to compare Josh to Cam simply because their memories of Cam are shaped by seeing him play for several seasons after cumulative punishment turned him into a shell of his former self. He was on a HOF trajectory at Josh’s age.

The Dolphins have a solid roster, and Tua can play when he’s healthy. That team is no joke.

So you think the Dolphins had a one year window, and that’s it? Tua’s still on his rookie contract. So is Waddle. Tyreek will be on the second year of his contract, and they just signed Jalen Ramsey.

Sent them some money last night and immediately started getting blown up by spammers asking for money. It’s amazing how scammers never miss a trick. (Not these people but those who stalk donor lists.)

That is just categorically wrong. Allen wasn’t forced anywhere, and it certainly wouldn’t have been left if caused by a missed block by his LG. He had a reasonably clean pocket, as good as you’re going to get on a third and medium in the postseason, and he allowed himself to get mildly interefered with by Saffold and his man. He was bumped, certainly not clobbered. If he’d have either thrown the ball to Diggs on time or shown any pocket presence whatsoever, it would have been a huge play. It was an uncharacteristically terrible play by Josh at a really inopportune time. It’s okay to admit what everyone in the world saw. Even great QBs make mistakes. He’ll learn from it. What he needs to do is tell Stef that if he ever shows him up like that again he’ll smack the eff out of him in the locker room after the game. I’m going to catch hell for saying this on here, but it’s reality.

The week 18 Bills vs Dolphins game is a win or go home scenario for both teams.

I don’t remember ever seeing him called that. As a Chiefs fan, I’ve never thought of him as a dirty player.

The entire notion that QBs running isn’t dangerous because more QBs have been injured when passing than when running is the height of stupidity. The hits a QB takes when running are IN ADDITION TO the hits taken when passing. And it’s not just a matter of getting knocked out of a game. There’s a cumulative effect over the course of a career. That said, that’s the risk you take at this point in his career. He’s got to give every ounce of himself to win a championship. That’s who he is and it’s what makes him great. Several seasons from now, he may develop into someone who can just pick defenses apart with quick passes, but until then you have to let him do what he does. Mahomes takes a beating too. Cam won an MVP and took a team to the Super Bowl. There’s nothing insulting to Josh about comparing the two. Josh will have a better career, but he’s yet to reach the peak that Cam did.

Not sure if this site is reliable or not, but it was the first that came up and that’s about as deep as I cared to research it, but it said that they can be negative. https://www.addmorefunds.com/articles/nfl/air-yards/

That’s air yards, not total yards. A 45 yard TD on a screen pass may have -2 air yards.

Then do is both a favor and stop caring about my intentions when posting on a message board. I've been very clear about why I started posting here, and it wasn't because the Bills were my second favorite team (not sure why there needs to be some sort of survey submitted to you each time a new poster signs up, but whatever.) I signed up here after making a pretty substantial bet on the Bills season win total several years ago. FWIW, I took the over and won. I like the Bills. I like them about 1 tenth of one percent as much as I like the Chiefs. That said, kindly f off and stop trying to be my personal hall monitor.

I hope someday you develop the emotional strength to participate in a football discussion with someone who likes a team other than the Bills without having a complete breakdown.

Who are the players you expect to be stars/play at an all pro level in 2023?

Of course, but 26/12 while completing 65% of his passes is still a really strong season given the lack of weapons and loss of his OC. It’s not like he wasn’t still a great QB even though it was a down year by his standards. It wasn’t all that far off of Allen’s season, and his QBR was nearly identical to Allen’s 2021 season. People were preparing for his demise back in 2017, and that clearly didn’t happen. It’s always possible that he falls off a cliff, but the much more likely scenario is that he, along with his longtime OC, provides a MASSIVE upgrade to the historically bad QB play that the Jets got last season. He’s very likely still a top 5 QB, certainly top 10. I’m always amused by the amount of posters who want to pretend that Rodgers and Hackett are some sort of punchline.