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So your entire post was great and I’d like to dive into it a bit more just because I like talking football, but I found this part to be funny (and this is tongue in cheek)… You’re saying most big plays that aren’t made by QBs are made by either WRs, Tackles, Pass Rushers, or Corners…except for when they’re made by TEs. Paging @Captain Obvious.

Positional value is an important consideration, but we aren't talking about top ten picks here. Humphrey was taken at pick 63. Buffalo could have had him at pick 61. If you can get any starter at that point, it's a win. If that starter is elite from day 1, it's a home run. I'm curious who you think would have been a better pick at 61 if you had a redo. Given that Jason Kelce is one of the top paid Centers and Creed was taken in the second round, I'm not sure there is much merit in the idea that allocating resources to the position means your organization can't evaluate talent.

500 yards and 4 TDs seems very achievable, but only 3 rookie TEs have done it since 2010. That's how rare it is for a rookie TE to be a difference maker. Evan Engram did it last back in 2017. Last season 3 TEs had 750 yards and 5 TDs (your year two projection). True difference makers at TE are just incredibly rare.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he a coach's kid, too? He's the kind of guy you'd like your sister to date.

It only tells you nothing if you choose to ignore it. Rookie TEs have a long history of not being immediately productive. Last season, Trey McBride was the first TE taken. He had 29 catches, 265 yards, and 1 TD. The top performer was Okonkwo who had 32/450/3. In 2021, Pitts was the first taken at pick 4 overall. He's got 96 catches, 1382 yards, and 3 TDs in two seasons. Friermuth has been the most productive TE from that class with 123/1229/9. In 2020, Kmet was the first taken at 43rd overall. In three seasons, he's put up 138/1399, 9. He's been the only TE from that class to do anything at all In 2019, Hockenson was the 8th overall pick. In four seasons, he's got 246/2587/18. He's been the most productive from that class. Even the most elite TE prospects put up very pedestrian numbers early in their careers. Kincaid was largely considered to be the best or second best prospect this year, but he wasn't considered to be elite. If there was any reason to believe that he was, he wouldn't have made it anywhere near the 25th pick in a weak draft class. Now that doesn't mean that DK won't put up big rookie numbers, but it would make him an extreme outlier. Assuming that a late first round pick is going to be historically productive based on nothing more than a few weeks of training camp coach-speak and one pre-season game where he played six snaps and had no stats doesn't make a ton of sense.

Rousseau seems like the guy most likely to have a true breakout season.

You do know what my point is. That’s why you left out the part about giving the biggest contract ever to a Guard plus trading a first round pick for a Pro Bowl LT. If $21m over 3 years and the 59th pick in the draft is the price to fix an offensive line, no team should ever have a bad one.

If all it takes to go from a terrible offensive line to a solid one is grabbing a JAG in free agency and a late second round rookie to play Guard, the Jets should be able to finagle something between now and the start of the season.

You’ve clearly not read the rest of this thread. Denying it is all anyone has done.

I’m not talking about rankings. You said the Chiefs are trending down. I’m just asking what trend you’re referring to. A trend is a sequence of events that moves in a specific direction. For example, losing an uncompetitive game in the Conference Championship, losing in a competitive Divisional round game and then losing an uncompetitive game in the Divisional round is a downward trend. Losing in the Conference Championship Game, winning the Super Bowl, losing the Super Bowl, losing the Conference Championship game, and winning the Super Bowl is not a downward trend. Saying you don’t think they deserved to win games that they won is also not a trend.

What is this based on? How it possible that there is a downward trend when the last game they played was the Super Bowl that they won?

The Chiefs and their 5 straight AFC Championship games and coming off a Super Bowl win are trending down? 1. Chiefs - Obvious choice 2. Eagles - The only other team who has an argument for number 1 3. Bengals - Biggest threat to unseat the Chiefs in the AFC 4. Bills - Loaded roster, but they started to show their age last year, and they only got older losing Edmunds and adding Floyd 5. Jaguars - I’m not a huge believer in Lawrence, but they’re a real threat if he becomes elite 49ers, Lions, and Dolphins are all very flawed teams who are elite in certain areas. Just don’t see how there’s any argument for anyone other than the Chiefs and Eagles being the two best teams in whatever order.

It will take a really, really, really bad season…and still pretty much your entire draft.

You just spent this entire discussion arguing something you didn’t comprehend.

I have no interest in taking you up on that wager. You misinterpreted the statement that started that conversation the same way you misinterpreted my comments in the conversation you’re referencing now. I respect your football takes, but you get so defensive when an opposing team’s fan dares have a different perspective that you become unreasonable. Back to the point of this thread, though. Seriously…re-read Taylor’s statement. It’s pretty obvious that he was providing zero new information.

They’re a group of players who belong to an organization in dire need of a culture shock. Who do you think knows more about how a successful NFL team should handle its business, Eric Bienemy or the Washington Whatevers?

On July 27th, Taylor said Burrow would be healthy [[one month]] from today. Today, Taylor said Burrow would be healthy [[one month]] from July 27th. Nothing changed. You got got.

He’s a solid player, but there’s no way he should get an extension. His caliber of a WR grows on trees. If he gets a big contract, take the comp pick and run. I’m really curious to see how this plays out.

Exactly. If Burrow’s injury was discovered to be significantly more serious than originally thought, they wouldn’t publicize it via an off-handed remark to some reporter’s question. That would be huge news, and they’d make a statement on it. It would be like Andy Reid casually mentioning that Mahomes’s ankle wasn’t quite healed.

0 + several weeks = several weeks. He didn’t say it would be several more weeks than he originally said. It’s like a dad joke that everyone’s missing. “Dad, what time is it?” “It’s 5 minutes later than it was when you asked 5 minutes ago…haha”.

Are people really this bad at reading comprehension? There is literally zero new information from what Taylor said. When the injury originally happened, Taylor said Burrow would be out “several weeks”. Today he said that Burrow would be out for several weeks from when he said several weeks. That is no different than if he had originally said 5 weeks and then today said it would be 5 weeks from when he said it would be 5 weeks.

It’s got a retractable roof!!!

His 2022 predictions had the Chargers winning the AFCW, the Bills in the Super Bowl and Brandon Staley winning COTY. He did have the Eagles as good value as a long shot bet to make the Super Bowl, though.

It was definitely me. It used to be a great board, but they let the political talk take over the board to the point that it turned into something more closely resembling a Klan rally than a football board. It looks like they've finally taken some steps to remedy it by either nuking or hiding the political forums, but I don't see myself ever posting there again. Shame because there really is a huge user base there and a lot of good discussion. I'm just not willing to sift through pages of racism and everything else in order to talk about how the Chiefs match up against the Broncos. If I wanted to know the political opinions of a bunch of middle aged white dudes from small towns scattered around the Midwest, I'd join Facebook. (Spoiler alert: They're BIG fans of Trump, and everything bad is caused by blacks and gays.)

C’mon man. You think they make cryptic yet oddly specific crib sheets?