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Offset language, performance bonuses, etc, all a big part of it. He should be asking for no offset, bonus for games played, ProBowl, playoffs etc. I’m sure his agent is holding their feet to the fire and they don’t like it.

I like the comparison, not sure it’s a perfect one, but if Josh peaks in about 3 years while performing at great levels on the way there, I’m good w it.

Seems like his best bet is to have migraines all camp long and then pull a hammy the week before the season, collect his check and screw the pack all at the same time.

I can respect that opinion, but in the eyes of the rest of the world, he’s not in the conversation as the best ever. Stats do play a part in it and while I agree with you, I think he was a better back than Emmitt personally, you can’t validate the “what if’s”, so he will not be given that credit. with respect to Barry Sanders, it’s not uncommon at all for the senior player to hold back a younger player, so as fun if a fact as it may be that Thurman was the starter, it’s arbitrary.

I don’t think it’s even a question, he’s the best player the Bills have ever had. He is one of, if not, the best ever at his position. The only other possible guy you could mention being in that scenario is OJ. Thurman, while great, not one of the absolute best ever. Reed, Kelly, Lofton, all great, but no where near the best ever. Allen has the talent to put himself in that conversation with another decade of success like last year, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

Most likely, but it’s a hole to fill and one weak area for this team is STILL LB depth, the coaches must have a much higher opinion of the guys on the roster than I do, because they have flat out ignored it for 2 years straight.

Dead on, he’s been an average starter with some athletic flashes. You don’t spend 20M in cap space on that. If he turns into the player the commentators make him sound like, great, pay him. If he is what he is, let someone else pay him. Remember Poz? Same type of polarizing player, I couldn’t have been happier that somebody else jumped on that grenade of a contract. People get attached to draft picks, it should be about performance. Our best LBs in years have been TKO and Fletcher, both signings, not picks.

As of this minute? No. That said, they have him getting paid a high dollar contract already and could use that money to replace him with somebody who would not be a drop off.

See : Stephon Gilmore.

I said it earlier, Maholmes is my answer to, 1 game to win, best for this season and best for the future, so I’d take Maholmes.. With what the Bucs did to Maholmes, nobody was going to win in that situation. All that said Brady has won on the biggest stage many many times, Allen has not, so if I am in a “must win” game, I’d feel better rolling the Goat out there and taking my chances over somebody who hasn’t been there and done that.

I think you have to take it in context, part of being the best QB is your situation. Brady is a straight winner, his team is built around him and he kills it. I think Allen is the better player all around right now, BUT if you have to win one game, Brady in a team like he has is scary as hell. Allen is great, but is not a truly proven winner. That’s not saying he can’t win or isn’t a winner, but he hasn’t won anything yet. Brady has rings..

I mean your criteria opens up a lot of possibilities, but I’d take Maholmes for 1 game, 2021 and for the future, so he’s the clear #1. I’d then take Brady for one game, for 2021 I’d be happy with Allen, Watson, Wilson, Rodgers and for the Future I’d take Allen because of age and attitude. I think there’s a solid argument that Watson is a better QB and the age is negligible, but Allen isn’t the Diva. So no matter how you shape it, for me, Allen is in the top 5, hard to see him much lower than that for any of the categories in your criteria.

Sub penny, known as a “trip zero”

I don’t know, I think he needs to raise his back elbow up on the drop, get over the ball more, those balls are high and late, it will never work in the NFL, but we all knew he could never be accurate.

Has to be somebody that’s looking at longer term production. I could see the argument that one year should not vault you to elite status. I mean, in all honesty, if you look around the league, there could be arguments, based on long(er) term success for: Maholmes Rodgers Wilson Watson Brady Jackson 🤣🤮 Ryan Dak Baker Cousins and I’m sure Tannehill is mindlessly thrown in for some people. they all have a longer resume than Allen in terms of “success”. I don’t agree with it, but I can see where the argument comes from. I could see somebody, non-biased, ranking him anywhere from #2 to #6 and I could not blame them. For me, the only clear cut pick is Maholmes is #1. After that, take your pick of Rodgers, Allen, Watson, Wilson and even though I don’t think he quite belongs in the conversation anymore, Brady. It’s all about opinion on those guys.

Let’s get real, a full team of back ups is getting rolled by most any team. The one advantage the Bills do have is MT at backup, to me, he’s the best backup in the league, he’s not the guy you WANT to start, but he is better than Tyrod ever was and there were plenty of people arguing Tyrod was the solution at QB. The nice part is, if Josh is out, the whole game plan does not have to be altered. It’s a nice place to be in for once. I sure hope it’s not the case, but the guy could be a Nick Foles type, where you don’t fall apart if the starter goes down.

Oh c’mon man, there’s a 64% chance.

Well it sounds like Beane is coming out of camp with 9 OL and 3 new draft picks in 2022.

yikes, that sucks.

Yeah.. they might give it to him, simply because it’s more than cutting him. if take a flyer on him for the PS, not sold he’s any better than the guys at the bottom of this roster. Would have to thinks he would be NO BETTER than #4 here, that’s assuming he made progress.

I got first row in the third level around the 40 yard line, $215. There are a lot worse seats out there for WAY more, but I wanted to go and those were the best value by a long shot, not much for under $200 right now. You can’t forget that Buffalo tickets are some of the cheapest in the league and you are looking at a time when demand is high because everyone is tired of being cooped up. I paid like $135/ticket for the Steelers about 6 years ago, for decent seats, I’m not real shocked to see that be up.

I’m excited to go see a new stadium and see what TN fans are like to the outsiders. I’m sure it’s going to be a good time, hope everyone is healthy and it is a great game, that the Bills win obviously.

Well, pretty much everyone drafted is a potential bust, especially guys you take for a premier position at the bottom of the draft. I can’t say either guys is who I would have picked at those spots, but I’m hopeful they got it right.

Or being looked off by the QB to give up huge gains over the middle. Stats don’t tell crap. Poz was a backeling machine too and Jacksonville got to enjoy that mess while paying him way too much. I hope the Bills are wise enough to judge him fairly, not just sign him bc they drafted him and don’t want to admit a mistake, but the 5th year option pick up already shows they are attached.

Aside from Maholmes, who else has that many wild plays in a career, much less in the time he’s been around? So much fun to watch, terrifying at times, but fun.