Mikie2times

I thought/wish for the same thing. To me this will be a big sign of the type of player Willis is. You know for a fact Travis will be on a mission. As a competitor Willis should be out to show why Buffalo kept him. If Henry goes off we need to counter with a strong rushing attack.

You can't ignore either, but to me the only way TEN wins is if Travis has a big day. Which is why I'm worried he'll be on a mission Sunday.

For all the Vince Young talk I think people are missing the most important factor in this game, Travis Henry. It's hard to imagine Travis not looking forward to this one for a long time. He was a young, cheap, former Pro Bowl selection/alternate off several 1,000 yards seasons and we drafted his replacement. His desire to remain in Buffalo clearly changed from that point on. Now around two years later Travis get's to come back to Buffalo. Even more on the other side is the same RB the Bills drafted as his replacement. Travis would have to be a complete coward to not play the most motivated game of his career. He already hit's the hole hard, and is a real SOB to bring down. We already have issues with our interior run defense. The potential for a big game out of Henry is certainly their.

Please see my thread below. Travishamockery.

Well it's higher then I would have thought. I still don't see him doing much under these conditions. JP has been at home in these conditions and knows what to expect. We've watched QB's come in here time and time again, sometimes vets and just plain struggle with it for 4 quarters. By the time they start adjusting the 12th man is into it big time. All this will be magnified to Young who's still a rookie, and still developing as a passer. Like I said Henry will come to play. The Bills run defense is very suspect. Your game plan should be no different then if you faced the Colts, which it will be because Jeff Fisher isn't ESPN.

Is his yards per attempt above 5? It would be a complete shock to see him go over 125 in this game. Your best bet is riding Travis who will should play inspired ball.

Forgot my sarcasm button. I bet he struggles throwing the ball big time. The only way I see him having success would be on the ground, but even then our systems much better prepared for that then when we faced Vick in 2005.

It's debatable. I would go with yards per attempt for QB stats unrelated to points or turnovers. That incorporates yards and completition % but can sometimes be skewed for great run PA teams.

I decided to compare JP with each QB in his draft class. As I looked at the numbers I felt good about how JP’s season was stacking up. Before I get into anything else let’s look at those numbers. Listed are my four most important statistics for judging QB performance. I assigned a ranking of 1 to 4 for each category depending on how the QB ranked in that statistic. The final ranking is the average of all the rankings. -Yards Per Attempt- 1. Ben R.- 7.5 2. Phillip Rivers- 7.3 3. JP Losman- 7.1 4. Eli Manning- 6.5 -%- 1. JP Losman- 63.4% 2. Phillip Rivers- 62.8% 3. Ben R.- 60% 4. Eli Manning- 59.4% -TD/INT Ratio- 1. Phillip Rivers- 2.25 2. JP Losman- 1.7 3. Eli Manning- 1.29 4. Ben R.- .80 -QB Rating- 1 . Phillip Rivers- 91.5 2. JP Losman- 88.5 3. Eli Manning- 79.3 4. Ben R.- 76 -Final Rating- 1. Phillip Rivers- 1.5 2. JP Losman- 2 3. Ben R.- 3 4. Eli Manning- 3 At first I conceded the number one spot to Phillip Rivers. After all Rivers set the NFL on fire early on, and I’m just thrilled to see JP at two. But then I began thinking about what each team has to work with. Looking at those numbers a very good case could be made for JP having the best overall year. As someone who’s studied statistics I’ve found the two stats that hurt QB performance the most are rushing yards per attempt, and sacks per pass attempt. One thing never fails, if those stats are good the QB production improves, visa versa. Often times break out seasons at QB are accompanied by excellent production in those areas. Down years will come from great to bad production in those areas one year to the next. JP is at a noticeable disadvantage in both areas compared to the other QB’s I listed. Rush Average SD #4 NYG #7 PITT #10 BUF #27 Sacks Per Pass Attempt NYG #6 SD#11 PITT #26 (This may surprise people; they also sucked in this area last year. They just run so damn well.) BUF #31 So basically JP is doing damn near the best with obvious disadvantages. If Buffalo can do anything to improve those areas next year he should be on the verge of a breakout season. Did I mention JP is also the best runner?

Vince is a better passer then Joey

Average temperature in Buffalo for December is below 30, for Nashville it’s above 40. You can also expect winds to be at least 10+ mph if not 15+ mph. If the conditions are as docile as you point out it will still be the harshest weather Young has ever dealt with. If it isn't as nice as the early reports, which usually is the case, good luck. Opposing fans only seem to get it when their QB says it was the harshest weather they ever played in during the post game.

I've backed Jauron, Marv, and JP the whole year. I rule.

We can't control our own destiny entering the final week. We will need at least something to happen in our favor the final week no matter what happens this week. The best scenario you can paint is......... IND Beats CIN CIN Beats DEN KC Beats OAK MIA Beats NYJ NE Beats JACK If this happend we would need one of three things to happen in Week 17 if the Bills win out. PIT Beats CIN KC Beats JACK SF Beats DEN

Keep talking dirty to me. I like it.

That’s why the Monday night game is so important. Let's face it the Jets game is a toss up. Miami just basically got eliminated so who knows if they show up. Let's pray they do, but if not with a CIN loss to the Colts we may still get in. You would then have CIN in must win mode against DEN the following week. KC should beat OAK. NE should beat Jack's. It would probably come down to the Bengals final game against Pittsburgh. In that one you have to love the Steelers chances at salvaging the season, and in turn ruining a bitter division opponents like the Bengals.

Dude this would be like a Christmas miracle. I mean, WHO ON EARTH? I’m happy as hell just to be here! If this miracle does end up happening we will probably face Baltimore back to back weeks. The last time that happened for the Bills was the year of the comeback. We entered the final week with HF implications on the line facing a Houston team that needed a win to reach the playoffs. Ironically Buffalo might find the roles reversed when they play Baltimore week 17.

You are correct that would work. Probably the biggest long shot path of the group but you never know.

Yes and Yes. If the Bengals beat the Colts but lose the next two we would both finish 9-7 and tie at 7-5 in the conference. They would then beat us under common opponent. If Miami beats the Jets we should make the playoffs winning out. I would even say it's more plausible then 2004. If the Jets win I still think we have a shot at the KC/DEN tie playing out. But that makes tomorrows Monday night game huge. We should all be huge Colts fans. CIN is the wild card we will need if the Jets beat Miami. To me Jack's isn't even a concern until after a W next week. Then even if they find a way to beat NE, I doubt they win at Arrowhead. It starts with us taking car of business but this miracle is within reach.

Yup..By the way I edited my post, see if everything sounds good.

Well thanks for clearing that up. Looks like the critical game in all this is the Jets game. If that doesn't work out we will need the DEN/KC tie scenario to unfold, and pass Cincinnati (which still is possible).

That’s pretty much it. I'm looking at Cincinnati as pretty much a lock. If they beat the Colts they become a lock, at least for us. Regardless it would be very hard for us to pass the Bengal’s baring three straight losses. We will survive next week with realistic hope so long as the Jet's lose, and either KC win's or DEN losses. I would expect to make the playoffs in a win out scenario if all three happen.

(Thread Edited) I did the math, figured out all the tiebreakers, checked it twice and here is the results. We need to pass all but 1 of these teams to qualify. NYJ- If the Jet's win against MIA we can't pass them under any circumstances. They would win tiebreaker #2 Division record. If they lose against Miami and we win out the Jet's can't pass us. We would tie them under tiebreaker #2 and also #3 (common opponents). We would then win tiebreaker #4 courtesy of having a better conference record. The final game they play against the OAK is essentially meaningless to our playoff hopes. DEN/KC-We pass KC as long as they finish no better then 9-7. This would be courtesy of our Conference record. Denver on the other hand is a little bit tricky. If Denver and KC finish with the same record KC would pass DEN, and we would in turn pass KC. That to me is the most likely scenario of us passing Denver. If KC doesn't tie Denver at 9-7 we can only pass Denver if they lose the last two remaining games. The reason being if Denver beats Cincinnati they will have a better conference record then us. If they lose to Cincinnati and Beat the 49ers they will have a better common opponent record then us. JACK- All JACK's has to do is lose 1 of the last two remaining games. If that happens we tie at 9-7 and we win the Head to head tiebreaker. Cincinnati- If Cincinnati losses 2 of 3 with one loss being to the Colts we can still pass them. In that scenario we would tie them in the first 3 tiebreakers, and move onto tiebreaker 4. We currently hold strength of victory edge by 5 games over the Bengals. Buffalo's record is 62-64 and the Bengals are 57-69. If the Bengals beat the Colts but lose the final two we won't pass them due to them winning common opponent tiebreaker 3. BIG GAMES before the final week 1. NYJ at Miami WIN - Jets win and we can't pass them 2. KC WIN at OAK- KC Must tie DEN at 9-7 3. CIN at IND WIN- Keeps our hopes of winning TB with CIN. 4. CIN WIN at DEN- Better Chance at catching DEN then CIN. GO BENGALS 5. JACKS at NE WIN If the following teams marked WIN do that next week we will enter the final week needing either a KC win or DEN loss or possibly CIN loss + Bills winning out to reach the playoffs. Sounds Good to Me.

You going to watch Queer Eye instead?

If Willis ever leaves I'll sure miss him against the Jets. If Nate ever leaves I'll sure miss him against Miami. Maybe JP can become the Patriot killer

Forget about the Lions game. The loss the really killed us was to the Jets at Home when we out gained them by 250 yards. They don't return that fumble for a TD and we might be controlling our own destiny.