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This is a player for player proposal. Still would have picks and FA to fix the line. Barkley gives us speed, power, and vision…something our current room lacks.

You realize Moss and Singletary are not going to become shifty and fast no matter how good our line is, right?

Like who? I’ll give you Diggs, but who is really a weapon after him? Beasley? He is worthless after the catch. Sanders? He’s old and now he’s hurt. Davis? And what is the common factor? They are all slow. IMO, a weapon needs to be a playmaker AFTER the catch, not only to the point of making one. I think one of the biggest myths in the league is that our wide receiver Corp is anything to be excited about. Beyond Diggs, we have a bunch of JAGs.

Fair point. I really think Barkley has had some bad luck and it’s not really an injury prone issue. He tore is acl, which happens a lot these days. Then he rolled his ankle, which can happen slipping on ice. Haha. I get your point about getting someone long term. That’s a valid argument imo.

I don’t really agree. Breida is on a one year deal and there isn’t a guarantee he will be back. Singletary and Moss are slow and lack vision. The RB room can be upgraded.

No. Neither did Kiko Alonso. That’s kinda the point of my thread.

I was thinking today on how Beane will fix this offense this off-season and i think even though we all agree we need offensive line help, I think we also need some weapons to go along with line. I’m not sure what Beane has in mind with getting a weapon for this offense, but what about a trade with the giants for Saquon Barkley? We could offer Tremaine Edmunds. Both players were first rounders in the same class and both might benefit from a change of scenery. This worked before when we traded a star linebacker for a running back. We could also draft a linebacker in the middle rounds to replace Edmunds, who has mostly underwhelmed in his time here. Yes, I know he is a two time pro bowler, but i think he leaves a lot out there on the field most of the time. Barkley would immediately give us an elite weapon. I realize he’s dealt with some injuries, but an ACL seems to be fairly common these days and his ankle got rolled which is a freak deal as well. I obviously realize this is highly unlikely, but worth discussing as it could be a win for both sides with exciting young players involved.

Is it? Or is it your opinion that it’s “insane”. Quit making your opinion a fact. This is a message board…we don’t all share the same viewpoints.

And you don’t know that he isn’t. See how this works? Exactly. An opinion. But to some it’s “absurd”…

I guess I didn’t make myself clear…I want Dorsey back as OC. Everyone else can walk.

Yeah. Everyone was worried with his heavy workload at Wisconsin. How’s that working out?

Here’s the thing…so what if he’s related to CJ? Is there anyone here right now that wouldn’t take CJ Spiller in the backfield right now?

I’m fine with Dorsey as next OC. He’s young and can bring some of the concepts that made his Miami teams so good. He played qb and I think that’s a big thing especially with a young qb. Gotta stay with continuity.

Yeah exactly. Technically, he did use a first on Diggs. He used a 2nd on Ford. A couple thirds on offensive players. What happened when we took Allen 7 overall? It was followed up by moving up for a defensive player that may not make it through his rookie deal, and two more defensive players after that. Forget about adding weapons for your new qb. For me, last year was the straw that broke my back and made me really question if Mcbeane really cares about building an Uber talented roster on offense. Taking Basham was unacceptable after using a second the year before on a guy that barely played and using a first on Rousseau. I have no regrets on Rousseau but Basham stings.

Wow. I don’t even know where to start with this. Top offenses? I guess you still think this is 2020, but all you have to do is watch games and see we have basically a one man offense right now. Our line is hot garbage. Our TE can’t catch the ball consistently. Our WRs and RBs are slow, outside of Breida. Heck, it even took half the season for them to let him play. It’s a mess. It’s time to admit that Beane and McD screwed the pooch with this offense. I’m sure additions will be made this off-season, but please let it be top picks and not a patch job like years past.

I agree and disagree. I agree that we need to focus on the offense. I disagree with your replaceable list. I honestly think the only players that can’t be upgraded are Allen, Diggs, and Brown. Everyone else can be replaced.

This is a myth imo. They are slow and have horrendous vision. We need upgrades.

Well…I agree to an extent. I will believe it when I see it in regards to them using high picks on offense. Yes they took Allen. Yes they used a first on Diggs. But historically, they try to patch together the offense while using premium picks on the defense.

I was just gonna say something about this. Imo, he would be the only one I wouldn’t throw a fit about. He’s built to be a huge difference maker in the run game.

Not bad…but what about RB? You can get a run stuffer in the mid rounds. Time to take too WRs instead of hoping a mid rounder will pan out.

We went nearly 20 years without making a splash at qb after Kelly. We tried to catch lightning in a bottle with late rounders and free agents. I don’t but that we will take corner early just because Tre went down. He’ll be back and Wallace and/or Jackson are decent 2’s.

These are good points. It’s not beanes fault Dawkins, Williams, and Feliciano have struggled this year after looking good last year. It’s unfortunate. Luckily, we got brown so that takes some of the sting off. But he has work to do in fixing the line this off-season.

I just can’t see them getting another DE in the early rounds this year. For heavens sake they took three of them with their top 3 picks in the last two drafts. Good luck trying to justify another. Totally agree on DT. I could see one being taken somewhat early if we can’t get one in FA. This regime needs to not “patch” together another offense this off-season. The fans are tired of seeing that. The fans and especially Allen deserve top resources put into that side of the ball. Imagine what our qb could do with a good offensive line, a run game, and a speedy WR. Scherff would be a great get IMO. He’ll only be 30 and will likely wanna play on a winner. Plus he has to understand the need at the position. To me, he would be fit meets need.

Unfortunately this is what I expect.

This is a disgusting and embarrassing stat for the league. Especially since multiple holds pretty much cost us the game Sunday.