Buffalo Junction

I see you’ve moved the goalposts…. Once again. Since you didn’t understand my point the first few times, Singletary isn’t an all-pro RB like Kamara, but he’s fine as a committee back. He’s also not going to cost $75 million to resign like Kamara. It’s certainly not Singletary’s fault that Beane has done a poor job of procuring good guards and other backs for a committee approach. If by chance you believe Beane has drafted talented RBs then Singletary’s been good enough to keep his job. Maybe it’s coaching though. The past three games they’ve averaged 7 second half runs from players not named Allen which is an issue in its own right… Dorsey doesn’t even seriously try to run the ball late in games. If you’d prefer the team to just go out and spend a 1st on a RB, or overpay a James Hunt or Josh Jacobs this year just say that’s fine. There will certainly more talented backs available this off-season. I’d just rather them spend their limited resources on good offensive linemen instead of bottom of the barrel guards and high mileage RBs.

And then got injured week one. Whether that hamstring injury was related to compensating for the knee injury is debatable, but those types of soft tissue injuries happen a fair amount when guys rush back from injury.

I hope they tie and beat each other up so they’re next games are more difficult.

It’s just a purely factual statistic which points out your use of 1) a straw man argument and 2) a red herring to avoid good faith discussion. I never made a comparison of talent or said that Singletary is as good as Kamara. I just used Kamara to prove that total rushing yardage per season isn’t the sole indication of talent. Kamara fit the bill because he has the same YPC average (4.6) as Singletary, played with a top 5 QB, and played in a pass heavy offense. When it comes to receiving (overall talent factor) there’s no comparison as Kamara has four seasons with 80+ receptions and several seasons with 15+ TDs.

Neither has Alvin Kamara. Time to find a new soapbox.

Total yards? Janky attempt at a statistical proof. If you use Singletary’s carry average per carry and Mixon’s attempt number that yardage goes up to 1,343 yards (130 more than Mixon). Which would go towards my point that Singletary is fine, and possibly underutilized with our entire run game.

🙄 Here’s more…. 🙄 He’s not the trash RB you’re making him out to be. Dude just isn’t Aaron Jones or Lynch. He’s a solid committee back, and he’s not the problem. The actual issues are Beane’s failure to get top guard talent, and the teams lack of commitment to the running game. Singletary doesn’t have breakaway speed, but he has good agility & shiftiness, contact balance, and leg drive.

I’ll take a 6-8 yard piggy back ride over an 81 yard TD run all day. Shrug

Yup pure trash 🤨 https://youtu.be/VDOIPjdg9_A

You may be correct, but a 6’ 195 lb corner has a better shot of making that play than a 5’9” 180 pound corner. It definitely wouldn’t have been an insane play either, just an excellent interception that gets made by someone several times a season.

My call of choice there would have been a rpo out of shotgun or even an old school option to get the ball on the wing. I get the concept of using the sneak to just steal 2 yards though. Problem is they’ve done that before and it’s expected now. Dorsey is proving to lack situational innovation, and it’s hurting the team. More than that though is their willingness to abandon the run in the second half of these games. That’s damning, especially when Singletary’s balling.

Nope. Searching any cross reference of “Saints” “Taysom Hill” “endzone” “QB sneak” just gets you touchdown highlights; I tried 🤷‍♂️. Hit YouTube, almost every qb sneak on there is a TD play. Gonna have to go game by game and watch every play and I don’t care that much. Fact remains, Allen has been very good a QB sneaks. QB sneaks are often used to create space in that situation. Morse and Allen ***** that play up. Is what it is. The call wasn’t great, but it’s been generally reliable over the history of the nfl when you have a decent OLine. They just ***** it up today. It happens. My issues with McD have nothing to do with particular plays or even issues in a particular season. My issue is that there’s a mid season slump every year with similar problems…. ie, they stop running the ball and can’t stop the run which causes a cluster of loses. That’s the issue to me. All of those other coaches mentioned have issues of their own. I’d honestly rather have Dorsey calling offensive plays than Matt Patricia or Greg Roman. Hell, McVay can’t seem to get ***** right with an all pro QB and an all pro WR. The grass is always greener….

Man. He ran that exact same QB sneak multiple times during his time with the saints with Taysum Hill under center. Don’t be revisionist and blow smoke…. When you have a 240 lb QB a sneak for 1-3 yards should be a gimmie play. The snap was botched. Payton ain’t some godlike coach. He’s certainly a better OC than Dorsey at this point, but you’re forgetting that Payton had 8 years as an OC before even becoming a HC. Playcalling improves with experience, and if anyone thinks that Dorsey wouldn’t hit some rough patches they’re dumber than a bag of doorknobs.

Yeah? A HOF head coach on standby that won a single Super bowl in 15 years with Drew Brees….. Tell me again how he’s better than Mike McCarthy? Tell me how he’s better than Andy Reid who’s won a single Super Bowl in 23 years as a head coach? Super Bowls aren’t easy to come by. They take talent, hard work, good rosters, and the stars aligning.

And there you have it….. without a hall of fame offensive head coach on standby you don’t have a viable upgrade option.

Fair enough. And if Payton - who retired - doesn’t want to coach this team who’s your Huckleberry? There are probably a minimum of 20 teams that would be willing to upgrade to McD.

Jack *****… which is my point. Dudes ragging McD, but not proposing realistic upgrades.

If you didn’t think Dorsey would have a lapse or lull at some point in the season I don’t know what to tell you. It’s part and parcel with the NFL that new OCs have a down stretch. Happens every year. As for the defense…. Hyde, Poyer, Edmunds, Tre, Groot….. injuries effect gameplan and big plays. How many times have we seen White come down with that ball Jefferson stole from Lewis? That ain’t an option , so forget about it. Our D is F’d by injuries. The argument against McD is these repeated mid season lulls. Not individual games or even bad stretches in games. The repetition of October to November failures kills this team. That’s your argument. Not Shanny making Morse snap to Allen better. So McD should fire Dorsey and hire someone else? What’s your solution?

I’m cool with firing everyone. Maybe they’ll find the next guy. 🤷‍♂️. Maybe they’ll find a LeFleur to replace McDermotts McCarthy. Who knows. Grass ain’t always greener man. What would help though is having a healthy secondary and healthy linebackers. It’d probably also help to have a top five O line or an OC committed to running the damn ball. We can put all that on McD though and just assume Shanny would peg Beane into drafting offense in the first three rounds. That seems right.

Just McD, or are we swapping Frazier out as well? I doubt Shanny gets better results from our wounded warrior secondary than McD and Frazier. Dudes are just hurt; no Hyde, no Poyer, no Tre…..

Payton is better than Dorsey. Flesh out your question a bit more. If they stick with the run in the second half this game than that lead doesn’t deteriorate in the same manner. Allen’s numbers 1st half to 2nd half were very different…. As were Singletary’s. 🤷‍♂️. Coaching screwed the pooch, but I’m not sure it was directly McD so much as McD not reigning in Dorsey. That 1st on the goal line probably should have been a shotgun rpo with a sweep option.

With the other coaches teams, or that coach on th bills instead of McD? Those are different conversations. If you swap Allen for Jimmy G and Shanny is going to the SB. Swap Shanny for McD and I’m not so sure.

Absolutely not, but I definitely believe Tre takes that as a pick.

I’m not too down on Davis yet. Aside from his injury he’s only really been taken out by an all pro CB (Alexander) and the likely DROY (Sauce). That’s not too bad.

I’d lean towards the issue being that no one is stepping up as the third receiving option. Diggs and Davis used to get shut down for stretches during games, but Beasley and Knox stepped up and won their 1 on 1’s to either move the chains or hit a big play. This season Allen has resorted to RB dump offs instead which haven’t been as effective/consistent. Say what you want about Beasley, but he excelled at making catches at the sticks when the game got tough.