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I hate Beane. Fire him now. This off-season has been horrible and just cements that him winning Executive of the Year was a big time fluke. This regime is no better than previous regimes... they’re just INCREDIBLY lucky. ^^^ Something along these lines will likely be said

Not a great look from the mask wearing perspective but I’m pretty sure the guy is very sick. Although, some on here think mental health is a joke... so that explains the reaction.

I wonder if Brandon Beane ever sits back when reading posts on this message board and paraphrases Jack Nicholson from “A Few Good Men” ... You can’t handle the truth! Son we work live in a game world that has rules walls, and those rules walls have to be navigated guarded by men with vision guns. Whose gonna do it you? You numerous trollsLieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for John Brown Santiago and you curse Emmanuel Sanders the Marines. You have the luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know, that Brown’s Santiago’s release death while tragic, probably saved cap space lives; and my existence while grotesque, and incomprehensible, to you, wins games saves lives. You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about on TwoBillsDrive at parties, you want me in that front office on that well, you need me in that front office on that wall! We use words like love, process, growth mindset, honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent building defending something, you use them as a punchline. I have neither the time, nor the inclination to explain myself, to a man who cheers and roots rises and sleeps, under the banner blanket of the very team freedom that I build provide, and then questions the manner in which I build it provide them! I’d rather you just said ‘thank you’, and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you submit a resume pick up a weapon, and get my coffee stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn, what you think you are entitled to!

Yes, Fuller was suspended this year. I was talking about why he’s never played a full season once in his 4 year career and played only about 50% of possible games. You’re changing your argument and introducing things that I never said. I never said anything about Taysom Hill and never said anything about Teddy Bridgewater... so I’m not sure why I’d need to try again? Never mentioned either of them once. There are plenty of arguments to be made for liking the Sanders signing or disliking the Sanders signing... but I didn’t make any argument for liking it or disliking it. Not one single argument for either side. All I did was read your baseless claim... look up the information for Sanders, Fuller and Samuel and show you that your claim was in fact baseless. I myself did not make a claim, I fact checked your claim and showed you that your statement was wrong. You brought up major statistical categories and I showed you pretty important stats like yards, catches, touchdowns, YPC, and games played where Sanders was as good as or better than Samuel and Fuller in most of those categories since Samuel and Fuller came into the league. That was YOUR claim. I haven’t done anything other than provide evidence disproving your claim. There’s no record of me on this message board stating my feelings about the Sanders signing... the only thing I’ve produced related to Emmanuel Sanders is statistics to prove your claim regarding Fuller, Samuel and Sanders was a bold faced lie. EDIT: I will make a note that my ~50% number of possible games played was incorrect. I was going off of memory and thought it was 35/64 games but it’s actually 39/64 games which is 60% of possible games in 4 years.

Odd that he said he was just made aware of the lawsuit via social media and hasn’t yet seen the claim... but also quickly rejected a baseless six-figure settlement demand when the suit was filed? Clean statement from Watson otherwise... but that seemed kind of odd to me...?

Well statistically they have both out performed Sanders in virtually every way since they entered the league vs what he has done in the same time frame. - DCofNC So now I’m the irrational fan for comparing Samuel and Fuller to Sanders since 2017... because I followed YOUR logic to illustrate YOUR point? Genius... you said that Fuller and Samuel outperformed Sanders in every major statistical category since they entered the league... you were just flat out wrong. It was false... you said something and expected nobody to check you on publicly available information? He hasn’t put up jack in terms of YPC... it looks the same as Samuel? So Samuel is a speed guy who hasn’t put up jack in terms of YPC then too? Fuller our produced him in 11 games... why didn’t he play 5 more? Maybe because he’s an actual injury prone player (playing ~50% of possible games in 4 years)? Oh yeah... that’s it. Nobody said Sanders is a superstar... I sure didn’t... but neither are Fuller or Samuel... that’s the point. YOU made the claim that they outperformed him and failed to back it up. The burden of proof is on YOU... you failed to do prove that. It has nothing to do with being a homer, liking Beane, liking this signing and has everything to do with you making an irresponsible post and expecting people to just believe you. If you hate this board because you’re called out for ***** posts... sorry?? You’ve failed to contribute anything substantive in this thread... it doesn’t seem like you’re part of the solution in making this board better... so don’t gripe about anyone else other than yourself.

Time period is 2017-2020 because Samuel came into the league in 2017... it looks even worse for you if I add 2016... Sanders 245/3018/16 12.3 Y/R and he played 55/65 possible games (played in 17 regular season games in 2019 according to PFR) Fuller 162/2475/22 15.2 Y/R and played in 39/64 games Samuel 185/2087/14 11.3 Y/R and played in 53/64 possible games I am double posting because I want everyone to see exactly what you said here @DCofNC

Time period is 2017-2020 because Samuel came into the league in 2017... it looks even worse for you if I add 2016... Sanders 245/3018/16 12.3 Y/R and he played 55/65 possible games (played in 17 regular season games in 2019 according to PFR) Fuller 162/2475/22 15.2 Y/R and played in 39/64 games Samuel 185/2087/14 11.3 Y/R and played in 53/64 possible games @DCofNC

Uhhh this isn’t actually true...

I would agree with you on all of that. It will be a competitive division though... fun for everyone involved on the fan level.

Yeah he’s done a good job cap wise now that more information is coming out. That defense will be tough as always... I personally don’t think they signed any legitimate difference makers or really have any on offense but I may be wrong. It does really come down to the QB... so until then it doesn’t matter much. I am sure they’re doing something else there.

Do you really feel Jonnu Smith and Hunter Henry deserve to be the 3rd highest paid TEs in football? $12.5M is around what some of the top WR make...

Yes, our culture is VERY poor! The Bills are VERY bad! Gronk chose the lowly Super Bowl Champion Buccaneers that he played with last year... who happen to have the only QB he’s ever played with over Buffalo. Our culture is VERY clearly the issue. Just because a team is “in on” a player doesn’t mean they made a serious offer. In this case they made Gronk a serious offer... we have no idea what the offer looked like for Watt (who straight up took money over playing for a contender) or anyone else.

Yeah just to follow up on this after digging into passer rating for LB (min 30 targets) a little bit deeper over the last 3 years since Edmunds came into the league.. In 2019 over a full 16 games he was 11/58 in passer rating amongst all linebackers. Just behind Kuechly and Roquan Smith... ahead of Eric Kendricks, Fred Warner and Devin White. In 2018 he was 27/67 over 16 games sandwiched by Fred Warner and Darius Leonard. This year he was really bad overall.. 55/63 LB. He dealt with that shoulder injury for the first two months according to Beane. Passing rating over the first two months (7 games, 1 missed against Miami) was 115.5 Passer rating the final two months of the season was 84.84 and that includes the playoffs as well... oddly enough his career average passer rating prior to 2020 was... you guessed it 84.8 Pretty clear the first half of this season was an anomaly and heavily influenced his final passer rating number. The guy has played 46 regular season games 38 where his passer rating sits at 84.8 and 8 where it’s 115 and you use the 8 to say he’s not good in pass coverage. Over 3 seasons here’s how the numbers break down for LB passer rating. Q1: 109.45 Median: 97.7 Q3: 88.25 If you don’t want to account for the fact he was injured this year... his career numbers put him just above the 50th percentile... if you do account for the fact he was injured this year he is just below the 80th percentile... Would you like to do a fun exercise where you name some LB that you’d rather have over Tremaine Edmunds because of their pass defense abilities and I show you where their numbers since 2018 rank compared to Tremaine? I can tell you Devin White (99.3) is actually worse. Fred Warner (82.5), Darius Leonard (88.9) and Bobby Wagner (92.4) are better overall but when you account for the fact that Tremaine was clearly impacted by his injury they’re all about the same... Roquan Smith is elite (77.1) for comparison to all of them.

Yeah it was high this year... what about previous years... ? I think we had this discussion before... but his passer rating the 1st half the season was VERY high and then it came back down around his career average in the second half of the season.

What data suggests this? Also, I thought you didn’t trust data... weird statement to make considering that.

Did you not just say this...? It was very clearly your point...

The point is it almost happened...

And pretty much every horrible Bills team for 20 years “almost” split with Tom Brady and the Patriots early in the season only to be shellacked later in the season. Some great offenses with EJ Manuel, JP Losman, Tyrod Taylor and Ryan Fitzpatrick at the helm... to think... the Patriots “almost” lost to teams quarterbacked by those guys.

Yeah at his salary I agree... but I’m not sure there are many clear upgrades for the production to pay ratio after he took his pay cut. I may be wrong... I’ll admit if I am wrong... I just didn’t think anyone else was that elite where it was a clear upgrade

Sure it does... he’s making fringe top 10 RB money and Chubb is due for a contract at the end of the year. They’re not spending ~$20M+ on running backs.

Not shocked by this one bit... they were VERY interested in him the first time around.

Boy it would really be a shame if constructed this super team with all eyes on beating the Chiefs and then the Chiefs get upset and our team is only able to beat the Chiefs and then we lose to the team that upset them. That would be pretty wild... isn’t there a saying like don’t put all your eggs in one basket or something? Just get better... focus on what you don’t do well and improve at it.

My guess is that the earliest we see the team get better would be when free agency kicks off on Wednesday, March 17th. This free agent period will allow Beane to sign players from other organizations to contracts that bind them to the Buffalo Bills organization. If that doesn’t happen I think the other option to get better would be during the 2021 NFL Draft. It begins on Thursday, April 29th and concludes on Saturday, May 1st. In short, we can see the Bills get better as early as Wednesday, March 17th but no later than Saturday, May 1st.

My guess would be yes. I would hope that Beane/McDermott sat down with Daboll and discussed the feasibility of fixing the run game with the exact same OL... and the answer was yes it’s possible. Otherwise I think they would have made adjustments. They already have the pass game worked out at a very high level... they can skew the amount of time they spend in camp implementing better run concepts. That’s just a guess on my end... but feels like how they would handle this.