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I would guess yes... there’s been no talk about getting rid of masks for vaccinated individuals because of the different strains. I was watching Fauci speak and he said that because the vaccine isn’t as effective against strains of the virus that we need to continue to wear masks.

Quote the rest of my post with all of the excerpts from the Ringer, CBS, The Baltimore Sun, USA Today...

If I had said it was the most polarizing pick, then yes, it would suggest he was not worthy of a first round pick. I did not say that... I don’t know why you keep implying that’s what I said. I didn’t say anything about him being a polarizing pick. I said he was the most polarizing prospect. He can be a polarizing prospect and not a polarizing pick. Here’s the definition I’m using: to break up into opposing factions or grouping. Did evaluations of Josh Allen not cause that to occur and very often? I literally threw you 4 different articles where I googled Josh Allen and polarizing and they came up from 4 different authors... there were plenty more... I guess those were all outlying opinions too... Since you likely didn’t even open those links... Allen has emerged as the most polarizing prospect in the 2018 draft class. On the same day that ESPN’s Mel Kiper slotted Allen as his top overall pick in a mock draft, Pro Football Focus’s Steve Palazzolo didn’t even project Allen being taken in the first round. Allen is either a strong-armed, mobile gunslinger with all the potential in the world, or a mediocre, inaccurate passer who won’t be able to overcome his drawbacks. It just depends on which draftnik you ask and this... Allen’s ability to play quarterback has been a point of contention in football circles for years. Heading into that draft, analysts were divided into two camps. The first was obsessed with his tools and salivated over the prospect with the prototype build and the cannon arm. The second was horrified by his statistics and couldn’t look past Allen’s underwhelming college numbers. The tools camp saw an athletic marvel unlike any other; the stats camp saw a QB who barely managed competency against subpar Mountain West competition. Then Allen reached the pros, and the divide somehow got starker. The Bills went 10-6 and made the playoffs in Allen’s second season thanks largely to one of the league’s best defenses, but statistically Allen appeared to be one of the NFL’s worst quarterbacks. The pro-Allen camp credited Allen for the Bills’ successes; the anti-Allen camp argued he was holding the team back, and that Buffalo would be a Super Bowl contender if it merely had an average quarterback. or this... Prospects are too often depicted as "polarizing," yet that label seems apt for Allen given the gulf between his backers and skeptics. maybe this...? Against Iowa and Oregon in 2017, Allen tried to do way too much too often to compensate for the large discrepancy in talent between both clubs. He looked undraftable in those contests. The rest of his film -- in games other clubs from the Mountain West and other small-school opponents -- isn't downright brutal does this make sense? No matter Allen’s John Elway-like arm, they said, his poor accuracy would doom him to a path more like that of Ravens draft misfire Kyle Boller. People didn’t say this...? That makes for a polarizing situation, as Allen is projected by some as the potential No. 1 overall draft pick and by others as a player who doesn’t deserve a Round 1 grade. Why you’re arguing this... I don’t know...

Dude... what are you talking about? Just because people said he was a first round pick doesn’t mean that the prospect is not polarizing... The pick can be expected and the prospect can still be polarizing... I am not talking about if the pick was expected or not... I’m talking about the decision to pick a prospect that had a wide variance of outcomes and assessing everything properly. If my claim is off the way... cite some actual evidence to support the contrary. I’ve already cited enough supporting my claim.

I didn’t say polarizing pick. I said polarizing prospect. Two totally different things.

You’re behaving as if I said he was a surprise first round pick. That’s not what I’m saying... but that’s what you’re describing. I said he was a polarizing prospect. Polarizing and surprise pick are two different things. I don’t think we’re in disagreement with the fact that he was talented and going to go high in the draft. Although some felt he shouldn’t be a first round pick or that he was only a projected 1st round pick because teams were desperate for QBs. He can still be polarizing despite that. There were a variety of outcomes that people predicted for Josh Allen... when I say polarizing I don’t mean the pick was out of left field... I mean he was a polarizing prospect that many pegged to be a bust. Plenty of anonymous scouts discussed how polarizing he was because the performance didn’t match the tools. That’s what all of those articles were... I didn’t write them myself lol

Lol I think it rolls off the tongue nicely when you say it 😂

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theringer.com/platform/amp/2018/1/23/16925662/josh-allen-nfl-draft-senior-bowl-wyoming https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-pr-sp-ravens-lamar-jackson-josh-allen-afc-divisional-round-20210115-gibp3oabjzgchhlyiqx6nbsnna-story.html%3foutputType=amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/buffalowdown.com/2018/04/06/buffalo-bills-closer-look-polarizing-josh-allen/amp/ https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/11/14/josh-allen-wyoming-2018-nfl-draft-top-small-school-prospects excerpt from a B/R article this year... What do the scouts whose predraft assessments made Allen such a polarizing prospect—boom or bust—make of the wide respect he's receiving now and its influence on upcoming drafts? Are they surprised by his play this season, or did they really see this coming?

He was a near consensus pick because B/R had him going 1.1? Come on man... you’re really going to try and pretend like Josh wasn’t a polarizing prospect? He was mocked to the Bills because the Bills were interested in him... which means the Bills did their homework and took a swing on the most polarizing prospect ever and hit. Feel free to introduce more polarizing draft prospects...

That doesn’t make him any less polarizing?

I appreciate the kind words. I’m glad they put together a better version of my analysis... I’d be curious to see the cumulative... Bills are probably what top 3 during that span? I don’t necessarily understand your point about elite players in 2018? You’re lucky if you get 1 per draft. The whole point is that in comparison to their peers they’re better and more consistent. Indianapolis and Baltimore are right up there too. The front office’s only job isn’t drafting players either... they do everything at a very high level. Draft, FA, salary cap, pro personnel, culture, staff hires, etc. That’s what makes them the best in the league.

Nope. There isn’t.

I mean it’s not made up... talked about pretty often. Gaine, Boyd, Schoen, Morgan and Lake Dawson were the ones I was referring to. Gray is another one.

They are. It's really indisputable. They're one of the best drafting teams in the NFL compared to their peers since arriving in 2017 (Yes, McDermott is part of the front office). It's proven with data and performance on the field. They're one of the best teams at getting value in FA compared to their peers since arriving in 2017. It's proven with data and performance on the field. They took a risk on one of the most polarizing prospects in the history of the sport... and got it right. They have a clear core values and a plan that they stick to, but they're also not afraid to make a splash when they know they need to (See Diggs, Stefon) They have 4-5 guys that are considered future NFL GMs in the front office. They've absolutely made mistakes... like all front offices do... it's inevitable. They've just done a really good job of minimizing those mistakes in comparison to their peers. Easily a top 3 front office in the league and I don't question them being considered the best.

Nah we didn’t get better. We’re doomed. 😁

No, but a degenerative brain disease might. Still doesn’t make it any less tragic.

The wellness program exists to get them in touch with medical professionals... it doesn't actually get them help nor does it magically save them if they do indeed get help.

Is it reasonable to believe he could have gotten concussions in the 22 years of his life prior to entering the NFL where he also played football at a high level? As a rookie late in the 2010 season, Adams suffered a severe ankle injury that required surgery that included several screws being inserted into the leg. He never played for the 49ers again, getting released just before the 2011 season began. Later, with the Raiders, he had 2 concussions over 3 games in 2012. Not true in his case... Whether he suffered long-lasting concussion-related injuries wasn't immediately clear. Adams would not have been eligible for testing as part of a broad settlement between the league and its former players over such injuries, because he hadn't retired by 2014.

I’m not excusing anything... what happened is tragic and disgusting. What if the cause of his rampage was a degenerative brain disease that greatly influences your ability to think rationally, causes suicidal and destructive thoughts and heightens impulsive behavior? He’s just a monster and that’s it? If you look up the symptoms one of them is “uncontrollable aggression.”

I’m not giving anyone a pass? All I said was it seemed like it could be CTE and then said it was a tragedy... This is a poor response from you man... Do you understand how CTE works and what it does to your brain and ability to behave and think rationally? It doesn’t have the same effect on everyone. Ok. When they come out and say he had significant CTE then we can discuss it. That’s probably fair.

Apparently the man he killed was a doctor that treated him. I hate to speculate but this seems like CTE. This is so sad. Those innocent people. It’s equally as sad how so many players end up in shambles.

“They decided to take on that dead cap and it caused problems for them. They could have been competitive had they just tried to add to the roster.” Too many posters on here.

This doesn’t make too much sense to me personally. He can be in his 4th NFL season and still be young... then again I don’t get off by telling 23 year olds they need to man up on message boards.

Why would he even if he could? It would mean teams would have to treat him like a normal PS player and they’re less likely to use a spot on him because he’s learning how to play football... https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2021/0121/1191130-christian-wade-rugby-nfl-interview/ "For me, it's knowing the protections and making sure I can react quickly. For me, that's the thing I have to have down solid for me to be able to be on the field and get regular reps." Let’s have him out there not knowing the protections or being unsure of himself. That’s injury waiting to happen for him and God forbid Josh. Wade understands what is happening. He’s even said Buffalo is the best spot for him... I don’t think he feels owned or indentured. He’s there to learn right now...

He will be on the field for about 50% of the snaps on defense per data from both years he has been in Buffalo. If 50% of the snaps isn’t that much then sure...