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@High Football IQCan you confirm ?

I don’t think he gets it publicly, privately McBeane know he’s a rising star. In 2017 McDermott interviewed Dorsey for the OC position before they hired Rick Dennison. He thought he was worth an interview for the spot then, here we are 4 years later and he’s likely to have gained even more relevant experience.

Alright man, I added the word “probably.” The whole statement was a hypothetical because I said “If we got to keep Daboll knowing he’s gone next year.” Because we don’t know that he doesn’t leave this year. Could’ve been written better on my end and I fixed it, but you were focused on the wrong thing anyway. Have a good one.

Yeah, it was. Then we lasted to a point in the playoffs where a team felt like they couldn’t wait anymore. Notice how 6/7 vacancies are filled? Teams feel like they can’t wait. All indications are that Daboll was only really interested in LAC and was perfectly content waiting for a team he’s comfortable with next offseason if LAC didn’t work out.

Teams are no longer allowed to block positions coaches from interviewing from coordinator jobs.

Supposedly Detroit is interested in Dorsey to be their OC. They’re interviewing multiple candidates. It would be pretty unfortunate if we got to keep Daboll knowing he’s probably gone next season and the man who many believe is his heir apparent gets an OC job a year early. Hopefully they go another direction or Dorsey sticks around. LINK

That would make sense, I know that’s the most widely recognized award for COY. Thanks!

He also won PFWA Executive of the Year. What is the most widely recognized award?

If you’re so concerned by it, why did you donate to the charity? The guy pivoted in order to make, what he thought was a bigger impact in the community by providing funds to small businesses.

I have a weird feeling that the Tampa Bay job is going to open up after this season... The Glazer Family is from Rochester. Daboll has obviously ties to the area as well as ties to Tom Brady. He was arguably the top candidate on the market and is still available, I wouldn’t be shocked.

Looks like our staff will remain intact for another run at it all next year. This won’t happen often with sustained success, but it’s nice when it does! Continuity for Josh next year will be huge in cementing himself as elite.

What middle of the pack defense did we choke up on??

Takes plays off? Everything that his teammates and the coaches say about him don’t paint a player that takes plays off.

My sister made me a shirt with the design on the left for Christmas. I’ve worn it every game since the Patriots MNF game. It has not be washed since then. I also wear my red Bills 47’ brand hat with a white standing Buffalo, gray lulu lemon sweatpants and a long overcoat that belonged to my grandfather. I will be wearing this outfit for the rest of my life.

Definitely not the best thing, but Kliff Kingsbury was fired from being a college HC and only got interest as an OC in CFB. Then all of a sudden AZ was hot on his trail. It only takes one!

Excellent point. I remember Y1 he was kind of a deer in the headlights in the sense that it seemed like the kid was having any success he was having based on sheer talent alone. They were working on the mental aspects, but he was succeeding with his physical skills. Then last year week 1 he came out and just seemed so much more confident in the Jets game. He was taking his time diagnosing plays, changing protection, audibling. He looked like he was in command. He had his ups and downs, but it was an early taste of what we see this year. All I know is he’s way further ahead than Brett Favre was in terms of understanding defenses... Brett didn’t know what a nickel defense was until after he got to the NFL. 😉

Daboll has consistently put Josh in a position to succeed, that is why. Part of his plan from the get go was to throw him to the wolves. Instead of a training wheels offense like Lamar plays in, a crap show like Darnold or a run first offense to protect him like Mayfield. Josh has been operating a VERY complex system since day 1. It wasn’t about cutting corners, it was about getting a raw/inexperienced QB up to speed so he can perform at a high level 10-15 years down the line and not just perform in years 1-2. In terms of Palmer, you just may not understand how that all works. Yes, Palmer deserves a lot of credit for Josh, but he’s not acting alone. It works this way in every professional sports organization, coaches in the organization give players things they need to address during the season, as well as things they need to address during the off-season. I promise you Daboll highlights everything Josh needs to address from a development standpoint, discusses it with him and then Palmer puts the plan into action. There’s also zero chance that Daboll isn’t having regular conversations about the progress. There are restrictions on what teams can in the off-season, but don’t think he’s not involved. His game management is not suspect, I don’t even know where that’s coming from? Sure, he’s taken some time to get where he is, but I’ve talked to a lot of high level football coaches and players who love watching Daboll call a game. They say he does an amazing job setting things up for the future, an amazing job scheming guys open, an amazing job taking plays and implementing them, an amazing job listening to his players. Every time you hear about a great play? Why not just watch? Even if JA is audibling in... Daboll is providing that audible and they’re things they’ve worked in together 🤦🏻

@Penfield45 I am still looking for some clarification as to why the Ravens are better and more dynamic running the ball this year?

Panthers hired Scott Fitterer from Seattle. 5/7 GM spots are now accounted for. ATL - Fontenot (Supposedly done, can’t be made official until Saints eliminated from playoffs) CAR - Fitterer DEN - Paton DET - Holmes HOU - Caserio Unaccounted for... JAX WSH Neither organization has requested to interview members of our front office, although that can change. I don’t think JAX poaches anyone from us, and despite the Carolina connection with Rivera in WSH they don’t seem interested in anyone we have, and Dan Morgan is the only one with CAR ties. It looks extremely likely that the entire group will remain together.

Did we watch the same video? Maybe I missed it, but Cosell doesn’t even say that in there? It was a 2 minute segment on Bills/Ravens. He spent the first 30 seconds talking about how these two teams played last year and Buffalo did a really good job, but they played out of their base defense (that was one of the only times we played extensively out of our base defense, we play Nickel a lot under McDermott), and this year they play in Nickel 90% of the time with Taron Johnson assuming LB responsibilities (and he says Johnson is VERY good at it). Then he says very briefly the Ravens added some counter-gap schemes along with the “Lamar Jackson factor.” He then says it’s all about stopping the run and how you try to stop it, and then goes into his 1 minute blurb on the Bills. He went on to say that as much as Josh likes to escape the pocket to make plays, he’s going to have to make plays from the pocket in this game to win. Basically insinuating Josh hasn’t been able to do that this year. Overall in that 2 minute clip, Cosell didn’t provide me anything of actual substances and he seems pretty ill informed.

Care to provide more detail?

There were 7 GM openings going into this off-season. 3 have now been filled. DET - Holmes HOU - Caserio DEN- Paton ATL- Looks like Rick Smith it Fontenot CAR- Has 4 finalists JAX- Ray Farmer is the rumor? WSH - Team without a strong connection yet. Seems more and more likely we keep the band together in the front office. HC wise there are 7 openings as well. JAX is the first shoe to drop. It looks like Daboll will either go to LAC or stay... would be huge if we could stick around and win a Super Bowl and keep Daboll for another season. For some reason teams seem to be coveting other HC, maybe Daboll isn’t that hot of a candidate OR they know he’s LAC bound.

I have no idea the discussion’s Daboll has had with McDermott/The Bills but it wouldn’t shock me if there was an agreement in place for Daboll to leave certain staff members alone if he takes a HC job elsewhere this off-season. I’ve seen it happen before where they agree on certain names or agree that if they leave nobody is touched. I don’t think we get gutted, and if we do lose some staff members it’s going to be lower level guys. We have to remember Daboll has connections all across the league, most of his offensive staff here was already in place when he got here, they’re not necessarily his guys.

Actually this is what you’re supposed to do. They were down 24 - 16 after the touchdown. He was going to kick the XP but after the penalty he decided to go for it. If they convert the 2 pt conversion it makes it a 2 FG game. If they don’t convert, the probability is very high that they convert the two point conversion the next time they score. In one scenario you don’t have to score a TD to tie it. In the scenario you kick the XP or don’t convert the 2 pt play you have to score a TD. It was absolutely the right call analytically. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2021/01/09/colts-vs-bills-why-frank-reich-made-right-decision-fourth-and-goal-4/6609839002/

I totally get where you’re coming from and I used to think it was quite a bit of BS. Although my mind was changed about 2 year’s ago, I work with pro athletes, albeit in a different sport. I actually picked this up in talking to coaches, generally they’re former players and they talk about how they went on strike for better pay and treatment, it was for future generations, etc. they try and pass that on to players who play today. The NFLPA is going to do the same thing because it’s lead by former players and it’s for players. Coaches, agents and advisors are going to impart that same wisdom.