The Red King

If you don't think an early 80-yard bomb would have changed momentum, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. That aside I stressed multiple times that I am not saying those plays were the only or main reason we lost. We still had three takeaways, and a number of defensive stands. The defense jeckell and hyded all game. Had Buffalo hit those opportunities, I do think the game would have been competative. We didn't, not a one. But all this talk of watching the game, I did. Every single painful play, start to end.

Talking specifics when your team is dominated is kinda what this board does. Otherwise there would be just one new thread after the game titled "We got dominated". You seem to think I'm excusing the Bills, or saying they only lost because of the plays mentioned. I claimed nothing of the sort, and specifically said otherwise. That aside, the plays mentioned in the OP were certainly back-breakers, and changed the momentum of the game. Honestly, we get dominated, and you think people should only be able to create posts stating exactly that, while being forbidden from discussing certain aspects of the game? Would make TBD a very boring place.

Who was making excuses? Did you even read my post? I even specifically said "I'm not saying we would have won...". I...think you missed the point of the thread entirely.

Buffalo's offensive weapons? You mean like... I think Shady might have value. He's a finesse runner behind a line that couldn't open a hole if they needed oxygen after a cave-in. Allen is a work-in-progress. Beyond that...newp.

I claimed 9-7 if Allen started, 7-9 if Peterman did, and I was close. If Allen hadn't been injured (and Peterman threw away the Texans game), I might have been spot on. I think most of us considered this a rebuilding year, with potential but not expectation to surprise.

It's easy to be discouraged after yesterday, but it's worse when you think of how many points the Bills left out on the field. How much better would Allen's stats have looked had the sun not broken up that perfectly thrown long ball? That's 7. We missed a field goal, and didn't try another shortly after thanks to an injured kicker. 6 more there. Fumble at the NE 5 prevented what would have been another 3-7. In total, just that small number of plays cost us 16-20 points. We only scored 12. Now, I'm not saying we would have won. Obviously, NE would have played differently were the game closer. But, we would have been more competative. All teams have rough breaks, and it wouldn't have been unusual to have one of the above happen, but all of them? What I wonder is, can we fix those intangibles? I'm not worried about Haush. Offseason to heal and he should be back in buisness. We need playmakers on offense, specifically receivers. Other teams, you look and say "Holy crap! How did he catch that?". Us, it's "Holy crap, how did he drop that?". It seems like where other receivers bail out their QB at times, Allen has to hit his in the numbers to even have a chance. It just struck me as odd, how the smallest number of plays had such a drastic effect on Buffalo's scoring, and how we might be closer to NE then we showed.

Allen is obviously a bust. Tosses a perfect bomb to a guy that got past two defenders, but didn't even realize the sun was still in coverage. Totally his fault, totally a bust. Cut the guy now. ?

Blow it all up! Cut the entire team! If they're not winning, then there can't be a single good thing to talk about! Allen is obviously trash! On that TD bomb, even though the receiver got behind the Pats and the ball was perfectly thrown, Allen should have realized the sun was still in coverage. Totally Allen's fault! *eyeroll* Also, the Bills went 9-7 last year and made the playoffs. That disqualifies them from being perennial losers. Just saying. That word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

In the tabletop miniature game Warhammer 40,000, Orks frequently paint vehicles red because they believe red ones go faster. That aside, they either need red helmets to go with them, or wear white pants. As it stands they look like lighthouses, some sick inversion of their 90's road uniforms.

They had a chance. They had the rings, the glory, and they just completed the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history. There was the ultimate sunset. They got greedy and chose not to ride into it. No sympathy here.

Run, run, pass, punt... >.<

Gregg already turned it down, I'm sure.

Or...the truth is in-between. He's not as terrible as the doom and gloom crowd suggests, and at the same time, Allen is still showing rookie mistakes. There are parts of his game that need to improve. I think they will, but I'm not going to say it's a certainty. I replied the way I did because either absolute at this point, is silly.

Didn't you know, everything is Allen's fault. The line and receivers are fine as is. ?

...because the Jets played worse the first game? Are you...seriously blaming the lack of pocket on Allen? Going to blame him for world hunger, too? O.o

It's a loaded question. Way too early to tell if Allen is the guy. I like what I see, but he needs more time in the oven. He's difficult to evaluate because his line is a sieve and his receiving corp a hot mess that can't catch balls that hit their hands. We need serious help on the o-line and wideouts. Too many needs to waste a pick on another QB. Let's surround Allen with actual NFL calibur talent next season, then see if he's the guy. It's obvious he's struggling to win with the Bad News Bears out there.

Allen is running as much as he is because we have a turnstyle for an offensive line. Can't be a pocket passer without a pocket.

Right now, Barkley's on top of the world, having mauled the Jets. You bring him out again, should he do poorly, you'll have taken that from him. Do you really want to risk tarnishing his great performance? Do you want to do that to him, you monster?!? ...oh, and yeah, also a bad idea for all the reasons already cited here. ?

If the Chiefs actually bite, it's a blessing for KB who will have a chance to actually put in effort, play his hardest, and try and use this last handful of games to bait the Chiefs (or another team) into a long-term signing. If this happens we'll get to find out how much of this was a declining KB, and how much was a don't give a damn KB.

When KB was asked why Holmes got a new job before him, Kelvin appeared to have a reply ready. He opened his mouth, but then decided speaking took too much effort and just gave up on it. ?

Did you miss the T.O. thread awhile back? XD

We knew this year was going to be a rebuilding year. Hell, Allen was supposed to ride the pine all year. I don't know how you can look at the Bills' defense lately, and the performance Allen just had, and not be encouraged for next season. Just need to upgrade the o-line and get this kid some weapons!

Skill players? ?

Bills have a solid, explosive defense. On the other side of the ball you have Allen hurdling players. Good...bad...that wasn't the question. They're not boring to watch, at least. Raiders are a tire fire with Gruden...entertaining. Browns were boring until the coaching change. Cards...I mean there's the difference. Regardless of record, Josh Allen is electric and fun to watch. His name's getting thrown around and he's getting talked about. ...how mamy headlines is Rosen making? So yeah, I think I could say the Cards are the most boring (right) now.

Makes sense. And yeah, been trying to purge that game from my mind for awhile now, to no avail. ?