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Brandon Aiyuk dropped too; got flagged in the physical.

NFL teams expect him to run in the 4.45-4.50 range

It's not a perfect comparison by any stretch, but I like Reagor for many of the same reason that I liked DJ Moore a couple years ago. He's probably the WR I'm realistically hoping for if we take one in the first round. And I'm similarly high on Ruggs; I wouldn't be all that shocked if he was ultimately the #1 or #2 WR off the board.

I think pretty much everyone would agree that he's a good returner.

Yeah I think you and I are in alignment with him. His YAC skills are undoubtedly great but I think that’s maybe the only thing he has right now that is great. Won’t be surprised at all if he slides out of the first round, and I won’t be sad if he ends up getting taken ahead of us instead. I’m confident there will be WRs I prefer available in both the first and second round.

Along these lines, his scoring numbers against those 3 power conference teams were extremely good. 25.6 points per 40 minutes on over 70% TS%. If that somehow isn't a fluke, that is totally game changing for us (though I imagine it was more likely just a hot streak for him as he couldn't even keep that kind of production up against the Ivy League teams). Still, he appears to be able to catch passes and dunk the ball, which would be an upgrade over our current centers.

Yes immediately eligible, and presumably so that he can do what he's doing now: take visits to schools and basically treat it as a recruiting process all over again. Also might be saving himself an additional year of eligibility? I'm not sure about that part; I've been asleep at the wheel on this one. Without even looking at video, his rebounding numbers are concerning to me. In his games against major conferences last year: Boston College: 3 rebounds in 27 minutes Rutgers: 4 rebounds in 28 minutes Northwestern: 4 rebounds in 23 minutes Roughly 5.5 rebounds per 40 minutes (for comparison's sake, Sidibe and Edwards are averaging 10.9 and 12.8 in conference play respectively). Again, haven't looked at video of him at all, but unless he's a Brook Lopez-style guy where he just boxes out and lets his teammates grab the rebounds, this guy looks to be unbelievably poor on the glass when he isn't playing against other small schools. He did play for our coaching staff this summer though so we know this kid very well/he knows us very well.

Not going to guarantee he's a Bill or anything silly like that, but I will just point out that Buffalo is one of 4 teams to make the trip to Lenoir-Rhyne to check Dugger out. That seems significant. And they didn't scout either of these guys, but I think Amik Robertson and Levonta Taylor are two guys to keep an eye on for us. Taylor now has experience playing a CB/safety hybrid similar to what Hyde sometimes does for us (though this was more of a thing in Green Bay for him) and Robertson just sounds like the type of guy that McDermott would love to coach.

Quick follow-up: He now says we had scouts at the Syracuse-Clemson game at the beginning of the year.

I was relatively low on him, but I still had him graded as a mid-to-late 1st round pick (just happened to be the lowest of the big 5). Unfortunately for him, he's ended up with two teams that bring out the worst in him. He was legitimately horrible whenever there was pressure in college; he was then drafted to a team with the worst offensive line in the NFL and subsequently traded to another lackluster offensive line in Miami. I never believed he had the potential to be a great QB, but I definitely think he had the potential to be better than he's been so far. Like I said, he desperately needs a team that can protect him. If Miami decides to just dump him elsewhere (can't imagine they'd get much in return at this point), teams like Pittsburgh, Indy, New England, Tennessee, and New Orleans might make sense. Those teams can all protect him and could be searching for a potential future starter.

We both agree he does his job well. We'll have to agree to disagree on whether or not his job is relatively worthless.

Having other players that are a waste of a roster spot doesn't change whether or not Roberts is also a waste of a roster spot. At the end of the day, just looking at the WR position alone, we had 6 of them and basically 4 of them were worthless this year. That's obviously a pretty big problem, of which Roberts is a part of.

I think that's really the point though; being against the idea of having unnecessary specialists. No doubt Roberts is a good returner, but we have a roster that literally had 2 or maybe 3 useful WRs and part of that is because we had to use a roster spot on a guy that basically gave us a couple extra yards the couple times per game he touched the ball. It's just not a good use of limited resources in my opinion. Obviously to that same point, we had 5 or 6 WRs on the roster and only a couple of them could really do anything, so there's just as good a chance that the guy we replace Roberts with would have been relatively useless too, but I'd rather just have the extra roster spot personally.

I'd rather see a soccer game if I'm in London personally (just because I've never made it to see a Premier League game), but this is cool nonetheless.

The great thing about this is it proves everybody right. The people arguing Roberts is good and the people arguing that using a roster spot on a pure kick/punt returner is a waste can both use this as justification.

Totally agree re: AJ Klein; seems like a pretty obvious target to me.

Fumbles =/= eye test. But to the point, I think people generally exaggerate Allen's accuracy issues (with the exception of his deep ball which is objectively horrific), but he's still nowhere near Russell Wilson in that regard. I also think the process that Wilson follows on a play to play basis has pretty much always been much smoother than what we've gotten from Allen to this point. He generally read defenses much faster and better than Allen currently does. And Allen did a good job of cutting down on his turnovers this season, but he still has too many "wtf was that?" decisions that Wilson generally has stayed away from. And from a metrics point of view, I think those issues are borne out by their respective QBRs and PFF grades as well as their team stats. Wilson graded out as elite per PFF and #8 in QBR versus Allen as average per PFF and #24 in QBR. The Seahawks offense was #7 in points per drive that year and their pass offense was #6 in NY/A, #10 in passing TDs, and #3 for fewest INTs. The Bills were #24 in points per drive, #21 in NY/A, #24 in passing TDs, and #15 in INTs. Again, just to reiterate, I'm happy with Allen's progress so far and I'm high on him in general. But it's not a diss to say he's behind where Wilson was as a sophomore; that's just the truth and Wilson is an extremely high bar to be comparing to.

At the end of the day, I'm happy with the progress Allen made this year. The eye test between Wilson back then and Allen (as well as some of the metrics) are just nowhere near each other though. It is kinda impressive how similar their raw numbers were though.

I'm sure I'll be able to talk myself into it if Shenault is ultimately the guy, but he doesn't look like a Round 1 prospect to me. I would tend to agree with Reid's scouting report of him at TDN, but I apparently just don't value what he sees the way he does. https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/laviska-shenault-jr/NLQE1jFVo5 He could be an AJ Brown type threat after the catch. I was similarly low on Brown last year and looks like I was probably wrong about him, so maybe I'm wrong about Shenault as well. Love the fact that he has experience lining up all over the place Seems to have good hands I think he has a very long ways to go if he's going to be our X receiver; right now, his only move to beat press coverage is to try to just sprint past them on the outside and I don't think he has the speed to get away with that in the NFL. His route running is pretty poor; his out routes drift up the field, he doesn't really sell his cuts, just isn't very good at beating his man when he doesn't have the speed advantage. It's possible that this is a result of never having one specific role in the offense, but it's a concern nonetheless (and a similar concern that I had with AJ Brown, which ultimately didn't hold him back as a rookie). He doesn't want to block anybody/doesn't really show much effort when the play is designed to go to someone else. Of the guys I've watched a decent amount of, I currently like (in this order): Henry Ruggs CeeDee Lamb Jerry Jeudy Jalen Reagor Michael Pittman I'm just lukewarm on Higgins and Jefferson at the moment and pretty skeptical of Shenault. And after those top-tier prospects, I like the little I've seen of Denzel Mims, Bryan Edwards, Jauan Jennings, and Van Jefferson. Edit: And re: the Shenault-Sammy Watkins comparison, the similarities basically end for me at the various ways they were involved in their offense. I don't think Shenault has Sammy's speed, ability to beat press coverage, or route running when he was coming out of Clemson.

I just went through and updated it. Still waiting for some people to announce whether they're returning to school or declaring, but I removed those that have already announced their intention to return and updated the list of schools we've scouted based on some more tweets I found + putting pieces together from Astro's spreadsheet. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EGcKt-3OhHND7shQmY9LREGwBxtnUcFwQtQDz2U-3tk/edit?usp=sharing Matt Miller also expanded on his big board, so for example, there are now 40 WRs listed (minus a few that are returning to school). QB: 11/14 - If we take one at all, it would be a Day 3 pick, but I doubt we do anything here. RB: 14/24 - RBs that were scouted multiple times: JK Dobbins (Day 1), Najee Harris (Day 2), Ke'Shawn Vaughn (Day 3), Tavien Feaster (Day 3). WR: 25/36 - We scouted all of the top guys with the exception of Brandon Aiyuk (Arizona State) and Gabriel Davis (UCF). TE: 7/13 - I'm guessing we don't touch tight ends in this year's draft after taking two last year. OT: 12/23 - Only scouted two of these guys multiple times, but still wouldn't be shocking to see us take one. IOL: 12/20 - Same story as OT. IDL: 14/18 - Didn't scout Derrick Brown (#1) but scouted the rest of the top 10. Could take a Jordan Phillips replacement, but we'll see. Edge: 18/28 - Scouted each of Miller's top 7, and scouted 7 of the 28 multiple times. LB: 18/24 - Scouted 9 of the top 10; think we could take a LB for depth at some point. CB: 14/23 - Scouted 10 of the top 13. A #2 CB is an underrated need for us and BPA could end up meaning taking a CB kinda early in the draft. S: 16/24 - Scouted 13 of the top 15, including Kyle Dugger from Lenoir-Rhyne (a Division 2 school). That tells me we're interested in potentially adding a safety to the group.

To me, a bust is a player that's drafted high and turns out to be a bad player when healthy. Sammy is a pretty good player that never lived up to being an elite player like people expected. That isn't a bust; it's just a letdown.

Are we saying who we think is better right now or which we would rather have moving forwards? I would gladly take my chances with the LSU guys but I think the Bills WRs are likely better right now.

I think someone will probably still give him a huge contract but we'll see.

I think AJ Green might be my choice. Getting one of the top DEs is a higher priority to me, but due to the number of choices there, I don't really care about one specific DE. AJ is pretty much the only free agent WR I'm interested in (maybe Robby as well, but not sure if McBeane will want him).

If McBeane are fine with Clowney personality-wise, he'd be my choice if I could have any of them. Would be very happy to get any of those tier 1 guys though. If we can't get any of them, I think I'd probably turn my attention to Adrian Clayborn and then likely use our 1st round pick on one of the edge prospects to develop behind him.