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I don’t think the guy you’re responding to literally meant that each GM has their own list of all 1000 or whatever NFL players. I think his point was simply that merging player ability and contract value is something that every GM does and that is what the author of the article is attempting to do.

I mean, yeah, determining how valuable each player is when accounting for their contract is basically the key component of team building.

I would like this draft very much.

I would probably put Allen around 15th or so personally in terms of value though there’s a few QBs that are worse value but better QBs.

Thank god I got my tackle at 14 lol

We should say something about trades too. Are they or are they not allowed?!

Not to be a downer, but it sounds like the interest in this case is not mutual (and really, not sure if he's super interested in Syracuse or if he just wants to make his list look better by throwing us in the ring...it sounds like he's an Oregon-lean). Would be a nice get. I have concerns about him, but at worst he's a solid backup to Sidibe. Edit: Sounds like it will be very shocking if he commits anywhere else but Syracuse. This one is pretty much a lock.

I've watched I think 5 of the episodes now just because my girlfriend put it on while we were working and I don't really understand the discussion around it personally. These people are all so disturbing and scary in different ways; I don't understand the people that view the show as funny. By the end of this most recent episode I have a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach both from the show itself and also from the way people are responding to it.

Yeah, granted I had Lock as my #1 QB last year (by the time Kyler declared for the NFL, I was too busy to continue scouting), but I don't see any reason why they wouldn't like him now if they liked him last year...he played pretty well when he finally cracked the lineup.

@Reed83HOF had to ruin my plans with the 14th pick. So be it. With the 14th pick in the NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select OT Andrew Thomas from the University of Georgia. A 3-year starter in college, he should immediately slot into the starting lineup for the Bucs to help keep Tom Brady clean in the pocket. @Golden Goat and the Denver Broncos are now on the clock.

Oof. Only reasonable result here is a forfeited pick for the 49ers. Hate to see it.

Don't blow this for me San Fran.

Re: Okudah, I’ve seen a few people mention they think Henderson could end up being the #1 CB taken

I'm not sure PFF can be any worse decision making wise than Gettleman to be honest lol

I love it personally, though I favor Jeudy over Ruggs but really can't go wrong with either IMO. FWIW, this is also who PFF believes the Giants should take.

I can't imagine he'd ever drop THAT far (not to mention it's just not really a need for us anymore), but FWIW, there's been a lot of whispers that he could potentially be someone that suffers from not being able to meet with teams due to his injury past.

Well, it's not like I'm leaving the house to go anywhere anytime soon, so I'm in haha. Bucs Packers Jets Edit: Which teams are left anyways? Might be easier to list 3 if I know what's available.

I view him as a 2nd or 3rd rounder and my #4 or 5 RB in the class. PFF has him in the 2nd round as arguably the #1 RB in the class. Their elusive rating tends to be the thing that translates best from college to the NFL and Moss is one of if not the most elusive back they've ever scouted. So he's pretty much insanely difficult to tackle, has good awareness of second level defenders, is a good pass blocker, and did a decent job catching the ball this year...there's not much not to like with him.

The Draft Network is probably the best option for free scouting reports. PFF's draft guide is very good if you happen to have a membership already but I wouldn't buy a membership just for the draft guide.

Probably two different things but I would imagine what you're referring to would be pretty closely aligned to the Breakaway %.

With regard to the elusive rating, people tend to think elusive = juking people out because that's how it's defined in Madden. Elusive Rating is more about forcing missed tackles, whether it's side-stepping guys so that you can easily run through arm tackles, juking people out, or just bouncing off guys. Moss is more about the arm tackles and bouncing off guys. So for example, in the video below, they would probably say the first two plays in this highlight video are 4 or 5 eluded defenders. As for breakaway %, that one is simple. He had a ton of big runs at Utah. Speed isn't really necessary to bust off big runs, especially if you're as elusive as hard to tackle as he is.

He's just saying that you shouldn't take RBs in the 1st round because they aren't very valuable and you shouldn't give RBs big long-term contracts because they aren't very valuable. It's a lot of words to say that, but that's essentially all he's saying.

I put together something similar for the WRs (which can be seen on the 3rd tab of this spreadsheet), but the RB stuff is on the 4th tab. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EGcKt-3OhHND7shQmY9LREGwBxtnUcFwQtQDz2U-3tk/edit?usp=sharing The first two columns identify RBs that we've scouted, met with, FaceTimed, etc. Dominator rating comes from PlayerProfiler.com...it basically shows the percentage of the offense's production that the player is responsible for. Anything above 40% is generally considered to be elite. Should be noted that the rest of the numbers are specific to this past season. So for example, AJ Dillon only dropped 1 pass this year on 16 targets, but his career drop % is much worse than that. I just don't have those numbers for all the prospects. Rush grade, elusive rating, and yards after contact are pulled from PFF's draft guide. Missed tackles forced/att is based on PFF's missed tackle numbers divided by total carries (this number is specifically for how they did as runners, not in the receiving game). Breakaway % = the percentage of their yards that were accumulated on 15+ yard runs (so for example, if a guy runs for 100 yards but 90 of it came on one play, breakaway % would be 90%). Drop % is based on PFF's drop numbers divided by total targets. The rest is just pulled from their regular stats and or NFL Combine numbers. Edit: For reference, I put this chart together last year that shared some of the same metrics.

I personally wouldn't trade up, but I know Beane almost certainly will. If he must, I think trading up from the 4th to get back into the 3rd probably makes the most sense. Won't hurt too much in terms of what we give up but that could allow us to get 3 very good prospects.

We literally have 1 decent RB right now. I don't know why anyone would expect our RB group to be ranked highly. As currently constructed, we'd be relying on a guy that was a healthy scratch the majority of the season and another who was a practice squad member (and possibly only on the practice squad because he didn't count). The fact that we're ahead of 6 teams at RB is pretty good considering we only have one guy. I'm not sure we should really care what Mike Clay thinks, but assuming we should, we should at least wait until rosters have settled. Our RB rating will almost certainly increase significantly by the time the season (hopefully) begins.