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He and his sidekick (Art Wander) were both grade A aholes. Dickerson would say he only wanted to hear strong opinions, strongly held. In other words, people who wouldn’t compromise, and wouldn’t change their opinions, no matter what the facts were. In a microcosm, everything that’s wrong with the US today.

Just to give some perspective on these "grades". Which I put in quotes because there is a fair degree of subjectivity here. Its not like a multiple choice test where there are clear right and wrong answers. I think we all need to take these grades with a huge grain of salt. The Athletic grades are entirely from Joe Buscaglia, a very good writer for The Athletic. The PFF grades, as I understand things, are based upon numerous different evaluators, with some evaluators being better than others. I'm not saying one set is better than the other. But from my observations, I think that Buscaglia's grades match what I see better than do PFF. Dodson being an example. Per PFF, he was markedly better than Bernard, and one of the best LB in the entire NFL. Per Buscaglia, Bernard was clearly the better player.

Given our cap situation, I don’t see signing any new top tier FA. If the money is right, my initial priorities would be 1. DQ Jones 2. AJ Epenesa 3. Taylor Rapp or Gilman at S Thats it. I’d pick up 1-2 WR in rinds 1-3, and then another WR in the second round of FA post draft and June 1

OK, let’s think this through. Bradshaw, Brady, Mahomes, and Montana. These are the best QBs of the superbowl era. Anyone disagree? Whats the common theme in their draft positions? Nothing !! Not a f,,,ing thing! Drafting QBs is a crapshoot. For every example like this, there is an example of trading three 1s and a 2 for Robert Griffin. Or Sam Darnold. KC gambled and won. Good for them. Put it to rest.

I’d never looked at that drive chart 5 drives of 54-75 yds and no turnovers. Should be good for 3 TD and 2 FG. But Bills had no short field easy scoring drives. Bills have been missing the aggressive D that gives you short fields in playoff games.

A quality WR2 is going to get a $12-15 million per year contract. You could push some of that into the future, but then 2025-26 become worse cap years. I don’t think Bills have cap space to sign a quality WR2, and other minor FA pickups or resigning (DL, S). Bills could sign a lesser quality FA WR, which is what I think they do.

TM doesn’t play on defense and his ST play doesn’t even warrant the vet minimum. It drives me nuts that we have older, “elite” ST players but don’t have close to elite ST play. Have younger players play ST.

I don’t think either Chop Robinson or Adissa Issac are first round talents. Both round 2-3 guys. Abdul Carter is moving to DE this coming year. HE is a first round edge player. Re: WR. If Franklin is there at 28, he’s a steal. Someone mentioned a similar skill set to Desean Jackson. I think this is mostly correct. Both smooth gliders. But Franklin doesn’t have Jackson short area quickness.

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Your source may well be correct, but most of Bill reporters and NFL observers state that Jones should be a top priority for Bills to resign. I guess we’ll learn within a month.

If your source is correct, I’d guess that Jones has a nice house in Nashville, where he played for 8 years. Not impossible to imagine that he agreed with family to live in Bflo during the season and then go back to a home in Nashville. I’ve never lived in Nashville but I’d guess that winters there are more pleasant than Bflo.

So, I'm going to double down, and say that not only is this graph useless, the entire premise of "clutch" QB is not really useful. Lets consider football vs baseball. Football is a team game. Baseball is a series of 1 on 1 (pitcher vs batter) competitions. So, yes, baseball may have "clutch" players. But, as a team game, football has clutch TEAMS, not QBs. The current KC Chiefs and the 2000-2020 Pats were clutch TEAMS. The Bills, sad to say, are not currently a clutch TEAM. They may be in the future, but they are not now. To consider how silly it is to talk about a clutch QB, lets think about SB XXV. If Norwood hits a field goal (which, basically, was the same as flipping a coin), then Kelly is suddenly a "clutch" QB who guided his team to a last minute SB victory. But Kelly has nothing whatsoever to do with Norwoods kick. Hes watching on the sidelines, just like the rest of us. Or as discussed above, if McD defense performs better in 13 sec in 2021, then Josh is suddenly a better, more clutch QB. Really? Or if Diggs catches a long ball in 2023, Josh is suddenly a better QB. It makes far more sense to talk about clutch TEAMS, not players. The facts are that Allen is an excellent QB, who typically gives his team a chance to win. So is Mahomes. Yet this graph suggests that Josh is unicorn good, while Mahomes is well below average. One of the 3 very worst QBs in the league, per this graph. Does no one else have a problem with this? The chart is simply garbage, but because good old Kurt has GraphPad prism to make fancy charts, this is all of a sudden the gospel truth. SMH

Why would you use any measurement if it doesn’t help you analyze a decision? Thats pretty clearly what op was saying. Using this great measurement, he concludes that Josh Allen is the greatest thing since sliced bread. While Mahomes is garbage. I’m a huge Allen fan, and think Mahomes is a whiner. But facts are facts, and this measurement is useless. It drives me nuts that some folks think they’ve discovered a new science named “analytics “. Which is simply probability and statistics rebranded. and most of the analytics I see fail to validate their tools. The first post in this thread is a good example.

My point still stands. Any time someone comes up with a new metric, ie “Win probability added per dropback”, you should ask yourself, how is this calculated? And more importantly, has this been shown to be predictive on an independent data set? Until I see evidence that this measurement is truly predictive, I’ll consider it useless.

Lies damn lies and statistics. Any “clutch” metric that places Mahomes in the bottom 20%tile is severely flawed. This should be obvious. Just because someone makes a chart and puts it on Twitter doesn’t mean it’s useful.

49ers definitely made the wrong call. Bills Eagles not. So clear. Rules in regular season are different, and Bills had the win in hand if Davis turned the right way.

I wonder if the length of that throw affected Diggs timing and eye hand coordination. im sure Diggs has lot of practice timing and catching 40-50 yd throws. But how much experience does anyone have at catching 65 yd throws?

Wait a second here. This is a family friendly board. None of your porn antics here.

Ahh, not so sure Butler is a good coach. He was DB coach at PSU, hired partly on the recommendation of Bill OBriens strength coach. Then promoted to DC because OB was too lazy to do a search. Failed miserably as a DC and would throw players under the bus. Then went to Texans with OB but fired as his unit performed poorly. Then hired by his high school buddy McDermott. Seems to me the guys floats by on his buddies coattails. And before someone chimes in that he did a great job coaching up Tre, Hyde, and Poyer—they were all on team for at least one season before Butler started. The only DB to develop under Butler was Taron Johnson.

Oh jeez, not this ish again…

To be clear, there is absolutely zero chance that Josh is traded or released this offseason. Zero. Zip. Nada. is it possible that Diggs gets released or traded? Maybe. Or at least that’s what the internet says. So these aren’t equal situations.

Ahh, I’m not sure that touches the Lamonica trade.

Why does Brady look 2-4 inches taller than Josh in this clip?

Actually Chiefs receivers dropped quite a few throughout the season. The reversed that trend in the divisional game and had zero drops against the Bills.

I like your top 10, but I’m pretty sure Penix ends up pushing one of those guys out. There’s always at least one QB who surprises and gets picked top 10. I like the Bills picks, provided Bullick runs a 4.5 or better. I’m not sure he’s got adequate straight line speed.