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If AP is more of a statistically based award and MVP represents more the player’s value to his team, as we have been hearing, shouldn’t this come as no surprise? And shouldn’t that mean the vote for first team AP QB doesn’t necessarily reflect the vote for MVP?? This award is still supposed to represent value to team, and that’s where Allen should have the edge…

I have enjoyed WA and the Pacific Northwest here. Beautiful state. Very green, lots of trees, waterfalls, nature in general. However, the rainfall is as advertised, so it’s not for everyone. Personally, I don’t mind that. Also, where I live in WA, the threat of wildfires is nowhere near what it was when I lived in CA. In fact, there has not been one near me yet. They aren’t non-existent, but the frequency is much lower.

Born and raised in CA since 1984. Wildfires becoming something we had to deal with on a yearly basis is among the main reasons I left about 3.5 years ago for Washington state.

Cooper and Diggs couldn't be more different. I'll never forget Diggs huddled up with teammates trying to get them fired up and ready to go just minutes after Damar Hamlin collapsed in front of them. He was the only one on the entire team that seemed to be able to set it aside immediately. His teammates were just standing there, probably not even listening to him. And, for the record, I am definitely not implying this was a "good" quality in Diggs. On the contrary, I think Diggs' intensity was exhausting and eventually toxic. That said, there has also been some epic performances over the years from players that lost a family member, played the next day and just balled out. But Cooper comes off in interviews as a sensitive dude imo, so I am intrigued to see how this will impact him, assuming he suits up for the playoffs.

I’m not freaked out, but McDermott’s comment didn’t make me feel any better that’s for sure.

#1 on the good list for me is "No injuries"

Can't wait to hear from the first person that says "But Lamar only had 1 more loss than Josh Allen!" Smh

Miami's defense is sneaky good though. If Huntley plays as well as he did last week, I'd actually take Miami to win. Problem is, Huntley usually looks a lot worse than that. We'll see.... REALLY wish these games were earlier in the day though.

Drafted 2 years after Cooper yet nearly 2 years older than him. I'd like to keep Mack around, and not just because of his personality. At his age though, maybe 1 more year? He will be 32 y/o next season.

One more comment regarding the comparison between 2024 Bills Defense and 2022 Chiefs Defense. While it is true neither defense was stellar during the respective regular seasons, I'll point this out: As I recall, the 2022 playoffs is when the Chiefs D really turned the corner. In the playoffs, they were a much better defense under Spags than they were during the regular season. They ended up carrying this momentum into the 2023 season, when defense emerged as the strength of their team, which is also true for most of this year's regular season. In contrast, we all know about the history of our Bills playoff defense, which is quite the opposite of the 2022 Chiefs D. Despite the greater quality of opposing offenses, KC defense was noticeably BETTER in the playoffs. Will the 2024 Bills defense finally flip the switch when the playoffs begin? Or will they continue the disappointing trend from years past? We are about to find out... A good example of Chiefs D turning the corner in the 2022 playoffs is their AFCCCG win over the Bengals. Make no mistake, DEFENSE (especially Chris Jones) is the #1 reason they closed out and won that game, NOT Mahomes. Thanks to the Chiefs D, it was tough sledding for Burrow ALL GAME. He had to earn everything; there were no easy buckets unlike 1 week prior vs. the Bills defense. The Bengals actually possessed the ball at the end of the 4th quarter and, as I recall, they were one first down conversion away from getting into game winning FG range and being able to likely milk the clock all the way down to the FG attempt, BUT Chris Jones sacked Burrow on 3rd down, and that was essentially the ball game. Just one week earlier we watched the Bengals march up and down the field on us every time they possessed the ball. Mixon was getting 5+ yards a pop, Burrow was finding wide open receivers every time he dropped back (and we had no pass rush). It was just "pick your poison". We could not stop anything they chose to do. I mean, despite what the regular season stats told us, KC's defense was far superior to ours, and this year, we can't expect Allen to get us to the super bowl on 3 shoot out wins. At some point our D is going to need to step up if this is going to be the year...

Nice comparison, but just one thing I'd like to point out is that the 22 Chiefs had a MUCH easier path to the Super Bowl than we will have. Bye > Jags > Bengals I REALLY hope we don't see Cinci in the Wild Card round because if we do, that may as well be the toughest path to the SB I've ever seen for any team during Josh Allen's career. I mean... Cinci > Ravens > Chiefs... it's like having to win an AFCCG 3 times in a row!

This may seem petty, since our offense exploded this season, but ever since we signed KJ Hamler, I was really excited for him to have a role in the Bills offense (or as a returner). A few years ago, this kid was drafted in the same round as Keon Coleman. He was an exciting, talented prospect compared to Hollywood Brown coming out of college, and his "problem" in the NFL was not performance related; it was the fact he has been extremely unlucky with injuries to start his career. This year there have been no injuries to Hamler, but it seems his only opportunity came in the form of a snap in which he played out of position at RUNNING BACK due to an injury, and I'd argue that he delivered the most exciting play of the Bills pre-season in that moment: a 20ish yard SPRINT to the end zone that came up just short. Look, we knew he had 4.27 speed already, but I did not know he had that IMMEDIATE acceleration! That is a rare combo. Obviously, it's not going to be in Buffalo, but I hope Hamler lands somewhere next season with an OC that is willing and able to carve out a role for him. I understand Keon Coleman is a big play threat, and his 19+ YPC is very impressive (especially when you put it next to Xavier Worthy's 11 😆) but Hamler could have brought a different dimension to this offense. In the off chance we elevate him for Sunday's game, I hope that we actually give the kid a chance to show out...

About as healthy as the Chiefs for a change. Only thing is, I’d argue it benefits them even more because in the past couple weeks they get players back that missed all or most of the regular season (I.e. Hollywood Brown and Jaylen Watson). And Hollywood is pretty much a bonus for them at this point. The narrative that the Chiefs don’t have a lot of talent at the WR position is overrated at this point, even without Rice.

I think it's the fact that "week to week" was merely mentioned is what is throwing everyone off. If McDermott came out and said "it's more day to day" and nothing else, none of us would be sweating his availability. He did say, "more day to day than week to week", to your point, but again, the mere fact that a week-to-week injury was implied is the reason everyone is scared, including myself.. lol

We know Allen has essentially played one less game than other MVP candidates due to sitting early in blowout wins, but here's another thing to consider... Initially, I had some concern over Allen being "prisoner of the moment" next week after only playing one snap / series against the Pats while Lamar gets an additional 4 quarters to tee off on the lowly Browns, who will probably have DTR starting again, which means they won't have any offensive production. We are looking at another 3-4 TDs+ for Lamar Jackson, and it will be fresh in everyone's mind, at the expense of Josh Allen... Or will it be? I think this may actually benefit Allen and his case for MVP because in addition to the argument that I've heard this past week that Allen played a lot less snaps this season due to the number of blowout wins we had, we should also start to hear about Lamar playing an additional game in Week 18. As a result, when those stat snapshots are shown, a logical reaction would be "Yeah, well, Lamar has played 1... arguably even 2 additional games than Josh Allen this season" so of course there is going to a significant statistical disparity! And I believe this helps Allen because, let's be honest here, Lamar would most likely be pretty well ahead of Allen in some of these stat categories even if they did play the same # of games, but now, we something to downplay / discredit one of the biggest arguments in favor of Lamar, especially when considering WHY Allen is going to end up with 2 games less worth of snaps than Lamar: It's because the Bills have been BETTER than the Ravens this year! This is why Allen has been able to take a seat on the bench early in the 4th quarter in a handful of games this season and it is why he is likely sitting out next week, aside from taking the first snap to keep his consecutive start streak going. All of this has been earned despite having an equally unreliable defense and significantly less talent on the roster. I also understand that MVP is not as much of a statistical award as Offensive Player of the Year (thankfully) and it is more based on a player's value to his team, which is a huge reason that Allen is the favorite right now, but as we've seen over the past few weeks with the vast amount of statistical comparisons being posted online, a lot of people still unfortunately look at MVP from this perspective, but now, since there will be a clear and significant difference in playing time, I am hoping the stats will not hold as much weight. Anyway, we will see how it pans out, but my point is, there's a chance that less playing time gives Allen more of an advantage than disadvantage here, but it ultimately depends on the narrative(s) that emerge after Week 18.

well that quickly went from 3 possibilities (for keeping the bengals out) to 2. i fully expect us to be counting on the broncos to beat chiefs at the end of the day, and god forbid chiefs ever lose when we want them to.

Why? I still don't think they will get in, but it would have been VERY nice to have that threat out of the way and done. Even though you'd think at least ONE of the following should happen, it's very difficult to trust any of the 3 teams we are counting on: 1. Denver over KC in Week 18 = Bengals are out 2. Indy beats Giants and Jaguars = Bengals are out 3. Dolphins beat Browns and Jets = Bengals are out All 3 look like they should happen on paper, but once again, I do not trust the Broncos, Colts or Dolphins one bit. There is no reliability or consistency with any of these 3 teams.,

Now that this game is over, let’s see how much the Ravens are willing to pad Lamar’s stats some more… I certainly would not put it past them to get him as many TDs as they possibly can here. After all, in each of Lamar’s 4+ TD performances this season, he has had several TDs scored after the game was essentially over. in contrast, in Allen’s game vs LA and Detroit, each and every TD was a necessity. That in itself should make it more impressive to anyone with a vote.

I really hope the path to the Super Bowl is not Bengals > Ravens > Chiefs. imagine being the #2 seed and having the toughest road to the SB in the NFL. fortunately, Bengals still need a lot to happen, but I just don’t really trust the teams that can keep them out of the playoffs. Ugh.

The fact that many of us had this exact initial thought speaks to how traumatized this fan base is

Replace 30+ with Allen maintains or improves his odds for MVP. Granted, scoring 30+ would probably help there.

if Ingram sucks today, I hope McDermott is pressed hard about it in the post game. He deserves every bit of the criticism. Obviously, I hope I’m completely wrong, but as of right now it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense

This time of the year when “everyone is banged up” there is a certain appeal to starting fresh, high ceiling backups. I will be ticked off if we trot out Ingram instead. Was kinda irritated McDermott brought up Ingram’s pick six (from like week 3) when talking about him earlier this week. That int was as easy as catching a routine fly ball in the outfield.

He also had some nice PBU's in the Miami playoff game a couple years ago. And his one start this season - I think it was against Miami - he had a fumble recovery AND a forced fumble that unfortunately didn't count. He's just one of those guys that seems to have a knack for taking the ball away, kinda like Rasul Douglas prior to this season. But turnovers aside, my fundamental point was that he should be starting over Jamarcus Ingram without question. And if there is a chance that we have anything in this guy, now is the time to find out.

I would have to go back and look, but I’m pretty sure I remember at least a couple that were great plays on the ball. in contrast, Jamarcus Ingram’s pick six was TRULY an “anyone can do it” type of play. Heck, if a DT was in his spot, even he would have been able to run up on that air ball lobbed by Tua and secure it.