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College Wentz = Championships and WON games; never mind his last season he only played 7 games. College Allen = No championships; struggled against Secondaries in his conference with no NFL talent, but it's his WR's fault. Plus low completion percentage. you can post all the numbers you want. I've watched the tape. Timing and anticipation is not there with him. With Wentz it was. I'm not going to even get into all of this. It's been discussed repeatedly. Allen is not the prospect that Wentz was and the comparisons really need to stop. Now that we are stuck with Allen I'll hope for the best, but I do not feel good about selecting him at all.

I'll give it a B for now. Allen I'm just not happy about it. He might turn out to be OK, but it just seems like a major uphill climb. Edmunds has nice athleticism and we'll see how he fits in the defense. I'll be excited to see what we do in round 3. Would like James Washington or Miller from Memphis and an Offensive Tackle.

This pick I like on paper. I don't know how he'll transition. The other pick I just don't feel good about.

Just stop it. Wentz lit up his conference in college and that translated for him in the league. Allen has lit up NOTHING. NOTHING. He struggled against guys that are going to be doing what you and I are doing, namely, watching football from the couch. That's why people are so concerned with the pick.

Just expressing a feeling. I'm not happy that Allen is the pick. I don't know how he'll turn out but right now I'm not happy with the pick at all.

At least we got Edmunds. LOL. Not happy about Allen with Rosen on the board. We passed on a guy that is ready to play now for, nevermind I'm going to bed.

He didn't say which direction.

This IS a problem.

Haven't watched ESPN coverage of the draft in years, like since 2010.

That's why I say it depends on the Browns because if the Jets truly do covet Mayfield and the Browns take him at 1 then the Giants will take Darnold and then the Jets will take Rosen. If that happens we're screwed. I don't think the Browns take Mayfield. I still think it's Sam Darnold at 1.

To me, everything depends on the Browns. If they take Mayfield at 1 then I think we're screwed out of Darnold and Rosen. At that point, you don't reach on a QB.

to me it's more of what Beane said. What problems do you want to bring in and live with? Sure everyone has if's, but I'd rather not bring in and deal with a guy that lacks anticipation and timing.

I just can't see the Browns being overly risky at 1. If it is between these two they have to take Mayfield. It'll suck if they do but they have to. Allen at 1 is just way to major of a risk. He's not the only one that has said that today. Makes me think the Bills do like Allen somewhat.

Honestly, I'm not opposed to Lamar Jackson at in the 12-22 range. My preference first however, is Rosen or Darnold. But I am not opposed to Lamar.

I said this earlier. I wouldn't be surprised. Then Cleveland takes Allen at 4 just so the blow will be softened if he doesn't work out. But to me if the Browns are taking a QB at 1 it has to be Darnold. I think the Browns have two scenarios on the table. Chubb at 1 and Allen at 4. Or just take Darnold at 1.

What's crazy is he said he met with the Bills at the Combine. Those words came out of his mouth LOL at the Combine

My thing with Allen and the talent reason (except the offensive line) is straight up nonsense. Here's the thing, even without top WR talent it's not like Allen was facing top DBs and secondary's in the MWC. So he should have lit that up one would think. But he did not. Things got worse when he played against power 5 schools. I don't know what Allen will be and I don't know the improvement, what I do know is this reasoning that he had bad WRs is terrible reasoning. Maybe they were bad, but the DB's in the MWC are not going to be playing in the NFL either so why when you look on film he's not doing better against these guys?

Here is my reaction

The only thing that would switch things up is if Josh Allen is the Browns guy. I think they take Chubb or Barkley then take Allen at 4.

Ughhh if we couldn't trade in front of the Phins to get Rosen over Allen I'd be sick.

To me, they have to take Darnold.

He won big games against good competition though, Allen has not. Favre won against Bama, Auburn, Georgia and he was at what was considered a small school. What exactly has Allen done against good competition? Btw, I'm not taking shots at Allen, my critique is of your argument. Secondly, this guy that you posted stats for was in the Heisman race going into his jr year but got in a car accident and had to sit out that year. Has Allen ever been considered for the Heisman? The only thing that is similar are comp% numbers but they do not indicate the entire story. Same thing when people point to Kelly's college career. Sure the numbers might look similar but here's the thing, Kelly played in big games, WON some of them against top competition at the time. You can say none of this about Allen. Again, I'm not throwing shade at Allen, it's the argument that I find faulty. I wouldn't mind Allen at 12. Don't mind him at 12.

The only thing that we can be sure of is the Browns are not sure who they want to take LOL. Generally, it's clear at this point who the team picking 1st is going to take. But the Browns have missed at QB so much they are probably scared to death and just really don't know.