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Bravo on seeing things without rose tinted glasses. I want Josh to be the answer, but the flaws can't be ignored. I don't understand why we didn't draft an accurate QB in rounds 4-7. Guess what: Pats did. Remember, this is same group who thought Peterman could.

Also, all those whiffs and misses ...

I hope someone starts a thread with title "T.O. should be brought in to help Zay"!!

Deac was on the QB in a blink, but the OL back then was smaller. There were games that Bruce would disappear, and he took plays off. Never saw that with the Rev. Bruce wsa quicker, but Reggie was a bone breaker.

The fail factor for Josh is less going into his 2nd season than going into his first; however, he could still be a flop. There's a long list of QB flash in the pans in the National Football League. To assume he's going to light it up is wishful thinking at this point. Being a stellar QB in the National Football League happens with less than 1% of the applicants. Go Bills!!!

Throw in physicality too, which can't be a real word.

If any man can, Peterman can. He could be next Fran Tarkenton. Back then, if any man can, Fran can. Chucky Cheese can create the right process for NP to sling a roll of dimes that McProcess couldn't. Just watch. (note: tongue in cheek and a hardy hard hard).

How bout Pats winning division? Would you bet against that? or just against sexy picks? Just wondering who you would bet to win that division if not the Brown Dawgs?

Dawgs have the talent to beat all of them. I think they'll be 6-2, then finish 11-5 since they'll beat everyone in their division twice. BTW, I think Bills will be 10-6 and get a wild card. In 2020, Browns-Bills in AFC champ game. Go Bills!!!

Makes me wish that Brady would've been drafted by Bills. He would've retired 10 years ago ...

Bills will have to swap with Giants to get Oliver, and they'd better do it. (Oliver + our secondary = picks) = JA TD's!!! Go Bills!!!

My guess is that we move up to #6 to get Oliver, and Giants get Metcalf at #9. We throw in a 3rd.

Absolutely agree. The #1 priority has to be the trenches. The Pats always protect the GOAT. Build the wall to protect our guy. If we get the wide bodies next week then draft the WRs that poster suggests. I don't like the TE at #9 though. The Ol Miss dude would be the difference maker for the next 5 years.

What's the over and under on 95 degrees and muggy.

This dude has wisdom beyond his years. Hope he's a Bill on day 1.

FInally, privacy walls in the urinals.

Suppose JA turns out as EJ redux? Just watch, McBeane is a smart guy and will draft a QB. BTW, Pats will too.

Am I the only skeptic on the planet?? Full disclosure: I thought EJ was the answer (I know that all of you geniuses knew he was a bust as soon as his name was called), but he got the big injury and then never got the accuracy and the mechanics to the pro level. Sounds eerily like the new dude. Yes, I get that the eyes tell us that JA is different; however, we seem to have all our eggs in one basket AGAIN!! What would be wrong with drafting a QB in round 4 or after?? I wouldn't be surprised if the following are on McBeane's radar: Minshew (Wash St), Thorson (NW), and McSorley (PennSt). I would be really impressed if they draft a QB. We should keep drafting em until we know we've got the guy. Go Bills!!!

These picks through round 4 would be awesome. I think this is only mock I've seen with a QB pick. Most would see this as a wasted pick, but I would say it would be smart in Round 4 or later. We always admire other teams that draft QBs even though they have franchise QBs, but now we think we have a franchise QB, but we really don't know. Allen's mechanics are sometimes EJ like, and he is an injury waiting to happen, again EJ like. I wouldn't be surprised if the following are on Bean's radar: Minshew (Wash St), Thorson (NW), and McSorley (PennSt). If Murray is still there in round 3, we must get that dude. Again, I think it would be smart to draft a QB.

I remember the 3rd quarter was like going to the dentist. We had 8 pro bowlers to their 6. Comparing the 26 man roster, we had probably 20 better players. Too much partying led to fatigue of our tacklers in 3rd quarter. I bet Bill's defense was tucked in and snoring when the clock struck 12 on Sat night; whereas, Marv's approach was that he would not try to control grown men. Also, of all the SBs, we must admit that Bill was the smartest man on the field that night. History validates since then. One final note. While many conclude that we were better team, comparing strength of schedule, ours was far easier, and Giants played tougher teams tougher. They definitely played tougher than night. Ask Andre Reed. Maybe they were really just 1 point better at the end. Instead of excuses, I tip my hat to the tougher team and smarter coach.

Coming attractions: Coaches will get a challenge of no call in the last 2 minutes when the new season starts. They should put it in right now.

Jimbo is HOF. I think he would know more about QB than 90% of the entire NFL coaching world. If I was JA, I would show up with a notepad.

Yea, the Brady's will not be able to pay the mortgage unless mum goes to work.

I wonder how many guys who were in the draft room in 2017 are still around? Any second tier executives, scouts, etc?? If so, I bet some are walking around thinking "I told you so" about Mahomes. I would be. I get that there was a reluctance to roll the dice on a franchise QB with the changes coming. However, I'm sure that anyone (still present or exited) who was a Mahomes man is feeling vindicated these days ...

As OP, I wasn't expecting 100% agreement, but was hoping for a clear consensus. I think this thread must stay open until we get there. C'mon, let's process, evaluate, and get to essentials. This lack of consensus resulted in the 17 year drought. Let's not go down that road again, plez.