Stank_Nasty

You are correct. Looking at his game log he definitely cooled off with Flacco. I gotta wonder who that was because of though. After all it was in that 2nd month of the season that the chatter started for Jackson even before the Flacco injury. Regardless, is anyone really doubting he starts right out the gate?

The fact that with qb that actually threw the football down the field last year he was on pace for 1100 through 8 games. Jackson was the only thing that happened to Brown last year. It wasn’t anything brown did or didn’t do IMO. Is there really any doubt brown is gonna start? I mean come on

100% needs to smooth some rough edges but I dunno how some are ignoring that their were numerous games that the defense kept them in it for longer than any defense dealing with a bills offense like that usually could. And a couple of games it felt like they outright took over.

I don’t think they were as good as their #2 yardage ranking and I don’t think they were even close to being as bad as their 19th ranked point allowed(it’s 19th right?). I think they were good d that is a pass rush away from being a consistently top 3-6 unit.

I couldn’t disagree more. Texans game the special teams alone gave the Texans the ball in scoring position twice and I think we held them to 2 fg’s?.... Texans couldn’t move the ball all game and were still getting points. While these weren’t offensive TO’s I think you get the point. I actually said in my original response to badol that the defense needs to 100% fix the pass rush and that will cure most of its ills. I thought on average it was a top 8-12 unit on most Sundays. Pass rush makes them a top 5 unit IMO. Oliver could fill 2 needs. Interior push while helping the edge rush because qb’s can’t just step up to evade it

I agree.... so my next question would be, does the bills defense only finish 19th in points allowed if they aren't top 5 in offensive to's?

bolded: DUH! but our offense didn't score or turned it over!!! moot freaking point! that doesn't change the fact that the bills crappy offense and numerous turnovers didn't contribute to more defensive appearances. it just means the other defense saw the same amount of drives and did better than our defense because our offense BLEW. I agree. I would have ranked them in the 8-12 range on average. no.... I literally said the same thing about oliver helping that out and that's what they were missing. in closing, I don't think we are that far off from one another but your turnover argument is silly IMO.

thank you.... if your offense can stay on the field it only makes sense that the other team is gonna have less possessions.

you don't get it I guess. that's fine. I'm not gonna go much further with it. common sense says that if your team can hold onto the ball for longer amounts of time and more sustained drives then your defense doesn't have to deal with as many possessions. this is really simple.... its not hard man. you just don't wanna acknowledge it. its fine. you've had an odd crusade against the defense for months now. advanced stats like DVOA also rank them high. but its your thing. let'r rip.

one could easily argue that the excessive turnovers led to the opponent having more chances for more yds..... are we really gonna pretend large amounts of TO's actually HELP the d's yardage totals? that's just sorta lame. IMO, a better pass rush fixes most of the problems the d had last year and would solidify them as a top 5 unit. in theory olivers inside push should help, not only with the lack of interior rush from last year, but it should also improve the edge rush as I doubt qb's will be able to slide up into the pocket to avoid it as easily as they have in the past.

oh hell yes!!!!

you are 100% correct. I just did this and I went from basically not caring about a 7th round pick to being fairly excited about what he may offer. huge target! He seemed to take a hit on about 80% of his catches and hold onto the ball. intriguing for sure!

a lot of people don't realize brown was on pace for an 1100 yd season 8 games into last season. I've been preaching that since before we even signed him. Jackson rendered him and any other perimeter player obsolete last year...… if I was marquise brown I think I may have wanted to get drafted by any of the other 31 nfl teams. in hindsight the most impactful play clay ever "made" was the drop in Miami saving us 6( maybe it was 7)draft slots and landing oliver.

just because I'm being difficult..... he had 7 grabs for 90 yds and a td a day after his 29th birthday. then didn't catch another pass that year. must have gotten hurt..... soooooo 29. ?

he turned 29 his last season in the league and didn't play the next when he eventually turned 30.... that's not a dudes prime. I think its fairly evident his prime was ages 24-27. about like every other nfl player.... but I honestly don't care enough to keep a debate going over it..... so whatever. you win???

I know this is veering off the actual topic but since when is the age of 30 a wr's "prime"?

Zierleins 3 favorite picks by round....http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001030079/article/2019-nfl-draft-lance-zierleins-three-favorite-picks-by-round Jaquan Johnson, S, MiamiDrafted: 181st overall pick, Buffalo Bills He doesn't have great speed, and he's undersized, but Johnson is the embodiment of a ball player at the safety spot. Johnson was still waiting to hear his name called in Round 6 because teams fear he's not fast enough to range and not big enough to bang, but the tape speaks volumes, in my opinion. He's rarely out of position, has leadership qualities and is a consistent, downhill tackler. This is a great value pick

I love it because it usually means he's found some space to operate in..... and you're right, I cant think of him ever fumbling while doing it but it took me a good season or more to not clench up my whole body every time he did it!

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/insider/story/_/id/26678391/kiper-instant-impact-rookies-2019-nfl-draft-picks-play-early kiper's top 5 instant impact 1st rounders..... Here are five prospect-to-team fits I really liked in the first round: Ed Oliver, DT, Buffalo Bills Pick: No. 9 My pal Louis Riddick said on TV several times over the past few months that Oliver was used incorrectly in college. Why is an athlete like Oliver -- he has one of the fastest first steps off the ball of any defensive tackle I've ever scouted -- playing nose tackle? Buffalo will play him as a 3-technique tackle in its 4-3 defense, in place of the retired Kyle Williams, and he's going to be a disruptive presence. No, he's not Aaron Donald like some were calling him last summer -- he is still developing consistent pass-rush moves -- but Oliver will destroy double-teams and cause wreckage in the backfield. Editor's Picks 2019 NFL draft grades: Kiper on all 32 classes, best picks and steals 2019 NFL draft classes for all 32 teams: Analysis for every pick 2020 NFL mock draft: McShay's way-too-early first-round projections Because of the Bills' offensive struggles in 2018, the defense went under the radar; it was the top-ranked pass defense, allowing only 179.2 yards per game, and gave up only 294.1 total yards per game. This is a young, talented and physical group. Oliver fills an immediate need sorry about the butchered copy/paste job.... the interwebs and I aren't real friendly with one another.

fair enough.... now go ahead and try and explain away rosen and the fins making the wildcard. lets not act like the dude is using common sense.

I may be way off base here but didnt he have a serious amount of TFL's over his career at houston? and that was playing as an undersized nose, right?..... could somebody explain to me how that equates to "not making many plays"?

have fun in j-ville Mr. Foles!

i'd put most of that 2015 season on the coach. it was the one real solid season for the qb…. if ryan even just holds serve with the defensive side they go no less than 10-6 IMO.

right. this is exactly what I was thinking as well..... he quite literally scoffed at kipers notion that allen would be a good qb in 5 years.

also traded for McCoy. how in the world could I have forgotten that part. LOL.