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Im completely fine with Kaiir Elam. Love the player and, as annoying as it is, yes the defense needs a player like this. Tonight… tonight should be solely focused on how do we make life easier for 17.

Id love to upgrade RB, but I honestly believe that with Kromer in the fold, Dawkins healthy, Brown now with a year under his belt and Saffold replacing Williams that our running game will be much stronger even if we stand pat.

No, they are not. Is Mahomes the best RB on KC? Herbert in LA? Burrow in Cinci? Stafford in LA? Rodgers… Brady…? Allen also led the league against pressure and evades rushers like Neo dodging bullets in the Matrix. What do you think we should do with WR3? You good right now? Give Allen some long term help tonight and I’ll shut up. I’ll accept that we can’t do everything, but for the “LB at 57” crowd… I’d have zero issue with Allen pulling a Lamar and tweeting out a “wtf”.

Nobody is saying we are “deficient” on offense. What we’re saying is that the Offenses in the AFC are elite, and if we want an Offense that can trade punches with them, it can’t be reliant upon two WR’s never getting hurt and a QB that has to be the following: -Our best RB -The best QB against pressure -Constantly elevating mid round talent I get that his job, as a highly paid elite QB is to elevate those around him, but last year we asked him to do way too much. So far the upgrades have been slight to moderate and all patchwork. No long term help and we lost our WR3.

It does if you want Josh Allen to have a long healthy career.

WR3 in this offense isn’t a luxury.. Dont want to upgrade RB, fine. Don’t want to invest in a monster OL, fine. We can get by with a below average RB room and average/above average OL. Could it be better, sure.. but you can’t spend everywhere. We have NOTHING outside after Diggs and Davis. If one goes down for a few games, as of now, take your pick of Kumerow, Hodgins or Stevenson. If CB was a five alarm fire need last night, I believe WR is that tonight.

Slightly. Still way too dependent on Josh Allen being superhuman. -Moderate upgrade at Guard with Saffold over Williams. -Slight upgrade with Crowder over Beasley. -Big upgrade of Howard over Sweeney. -As of now we have no outside WR3 without Sanders. -Not much of significance done at RB. Im seeing a slight upgrade of the Offense as of today, with a major worry at outside WR3. Wouldn’t hate it. We’d have an absolutely filthy TE room in ‘22. Would still bang the table for a WR3 in RD3. Also, ESPN will run approximately 45,000 stories on his family.

If we take another defensive player at 57, Josh Allen should be permitted one polite face slap of Brandon Beane.

I mean, I get it, but that is some paralysis by analysis PTSD. “What if our star CB or RD1 CB get hurt?..” What team has the luxury of having a star CB, plus a newly added RD1 CB …. AND then a RD2 or 3 backup for them in the same draft?

If I had to guess, the Bills had Sauce, Stingley, Elam and McDuffie with RD1 grades at CB. I have no idea who they had rated higher.. Elam or McDuffie. Elam seems to check all the boxes the Bills want in high picks aka really young and really athletic. Beane wanted to add speed to the secondary and Elam can fly. Regardless, I’m guessing they would have taken either of them at 25. Then KC traded up and took one of them off the board. With only one guy left with a RD1 grade, they weren’t going to play around waiting for a guy in a draft that was off the rails with trades.

I kind of like Jalen Tolbert & Christian Watson.

Josh Jacobs not getting his 5th year option is another nail in the coffin of RD1 RB’s.

I think there may be a corner that falls that would be tempting, but what are we doing with them? Tre White, Kaiir Elam and Taron Johnson is a really strong trio. Dane Jackson and Siran Neal are pretty solid backups. I could see us adding a vet, but investing 4 years in a pick with those guys on the roster for the foreseeable future doesn’t make a ton of sense.

I doubt they do this, but I would have zero issue with the Bills only taking 4 players in this draft and using 5,6, 6, 7 to move up. We took 8 players last year and 2 of them got snatched off the PS squad. Essentially wasted picks. This years roster looks even more difficult to make the 53.

True. Denzel Mims RD2 (59) Gabriel Davis RD4 (128) Same draft.

Still go back to rumors of the Bills moving a vet for a pick/trade-up. Resigning myself to the fact that player traded will not be “he who shall not be named”, but I do wonder what Epenesa’s value could be league wide. Former RD2 pick, still two years left on his rookie deal. In RD3, Epenesa likely has more potential than the EDGE prospects left on the board. Id feel 100% comfortable with Von, Rousseau, Basham and Lawson at DE. As it stands, Epenesa looks to be competing with Basham and Shaq as to who will be odd man out on Gamedays.

Perhaps, but we’ve also never had a RB like Hall with Allen. Given a choice, yes I’d rather have one of the top RD2 WR’s over Hall.. agreed. That said, Hall as a pseudo-slot for Allen’s check downs against the 2 deep Safety look could be a game changer.

Don’t worry Allen will do it all… Turn Kumerow or Stevenson into a stud if Diggs or Davis miss time/need a breather and provide the running threat for the offense with Singletary and the JAG’s. We definitely need more help for the Defense. A billion dollars and RD1/RD2 picks everywhere still needs more investment.

I view Hall a bit differently than you, given his speed & pass catching ability, but any other RB in RD2 would require me talking myself into it. Beane has given Allen talent on Offense but it seems like it’s starting to become the bare minimum to say he’s done so… We upgraded one spot on the OL via a 1 year deal vet. We upgraded slot with a 1 year vet. Upgraded TE2 with a 1 year deal player. Meanwhile a decent outside depth WR is no longer on the roster in Sanders and we played some musical chairs with 1 year deal OL depth players. We have upgraded the Offense, I truly believe that, but it’s the bare minimum we could’ve done so far and we only have two reliable outside WR’s currently on the roster.

I refuse to accept this argument. Our defense has an absurd amount of talent on it. Poyer & Hyde at Safety. White, Elam and Johnson at Cornerback. We still have Milano at LB. Miller, Rousseau, Oliver etc on the DL Come on..

Yea, hope we’d consider him, but if not, Beane was true to his “need speed in the secondary comments”… let’s hope he’s true to that on Offense and finds a way to infuse speed at WR and/or RB. Metchie and Hall are the two players that jump off the list for me.

Going off that list, Breece Hall and/or John Metchie please. Speed speed speed.. Would understand IOL if they believe the guy can push Bates and then take over for Saffold. Love the Elam pick, but more defense tonight would be frustrating. Although, Booth (depending on medicals) would certainly be tough to pass up.

Also.. G, MLB and S aren’t exactly premium positions. To everyone so worried about Saffold, Edmunds and Poyer all being off the team after this year, ok… We can draft a MLB, G and S with our Top 100 picks next year. Why do we need to give these positions all a redshirt year? Draft guys tonight who will contribute.

Agreed. And I’d be fine in doing so. Pickens is a true outside WR with #1 potential. And we obviously know what Hall would bring to the offense at RB. We got our CB and if we can come away with a top tier playmaker for the Offense tonight, I don’t really care what else we do.

Pickens or Hall would probably be my hope for RD2 tonight.