BigDingus

Yeah, I remember him having 300+ yards passing in one game but getting sacked a ton, but in the first game we played them, they really handed it to us in the first half. At that point I think they were 0-5 or 0-6, and they came to Buffalo & really shocked everyone with their level of play. I remember the fans booing the team as they came off the field at half time, and everyone was shocked the 4-1 Bills were blowing it to what was at that point the crappiest team in the league. So I'll never take them lightly, or any team for that matter. I think we beat them in the end, but I'm not looking past them is all.

Just gotta hope Fitzpatrick doesn't have one of his stupid, out-of-nowhere where he's just throwing TD's left & right while running all over the place like he's Kyler Murray. If our defense can play disciplined like usual, should be a win.

Tbh, I have highly reduced the amount of time I spend on the boards in the offseason, so I'm not up to date on what individual posters say that often. People get really sensitive if I criticize ANYTHING Allen related, but since I know you since way back on the official Bills boards, I'll take your word for it. There's things Allen deserves critiques on, but there are certainly people who will take any opportunity to dismiss anything he does well just to prop up the negatives.

Tell me where I trashed Josh? Damn, people are so sensitive & thin skinned on these boards 😂

100% agree. I'm even guilty of this to some extent, though more often with other teams than the Bills. However, I genuinely didn't notice the impact Oliver had most of yesterday. That's on me, but I was hoping I'd see people in this thread point out what he did or maybe post some articles breaking down his play if any existed. Was not expecting people to turn it into a Josh Allen thing or anything. But yeah, stat sheets don't tell the whole story, so glad to hear Oliver's play was felt even without the numbers.

Criticizing players for playing poorly or making bad mistakes isn't worthy of a ban, temp or otherwise, regardless of if we like the opinion or not. Josh deserves flack for that pass (and some other misses), but deserves all the praise in the world for the others he made. That's just par for the course being an NFL QB.

Fair enough. People really should be able to discuss these things without taking them so personally. Bringing up Allen is irrelevant to the conversation you're wanting to have as well. Honestly, I didn't notice Oliver much at all yesterday, but hey, that's what posts like this are for right? Others that break these things down can tell us if there were thing we missed that just don't show up on the stat sheet.

Agreed. That was an issue last year as well. Even on the few deep passes Allen connected on, the ball placement usually didn't allow for much more than the catch itself. But if he can place passes to these targets that allow them to rack up YAC, this offense will become exponentially more dangerous.

Diggs impressed me way more than I thought he would. He didn't have monster numbers or anything, but 8 receptions on 9 targets is HUGE, and his ability to hang on to the ball even after taking those punishing hits was eye-opening. If that's what we get on the regular with Diggs, the trade was worth everything we gave up & then some. Even if Josh was to just flame out (not saying he will), Diggs being around is a huge help to the offense no matter who's behind center.

Dumb/Funny Posts: 1. "I'll give him credit for being a bad QB on a good team with a good coach" - HawkeyeJet (7,914 Reputation) 2. "No. He doesn't have Gase for a play caller." - TNJet (6,972 Reputation) 3. "On a bright note C19 May shut the season early. Week two would be good." - BurnleyJet (8,109 Reputation) 4. "I'm not a believer in Josh Allen. I think he's garbage and today has done nothing to change that opinion. But today he far outplayed Sammy and Sammy should be VERY concerned about that." - NYJ1 (1,247 Reputation) 5. "I'll give him credit tomorrow. Until then the Bills can go f*** themselves. And so can the Jets." - Spoot-Face (17,720 Reputation) He's getting some decent credit, but damn if I don't feel a little for Jets fans right now. Some of those posts remind me of those on the boards during the 17 year playoff drought... Still a relief we're not at that point anymore.

Very good & concise breakdown of what I viewed out there as well. I hate the fumbles, especially the really silly & completely avoidable ones, but the missing wide open guys burns me up even more. This offense has the potential to really put the pressure on opponents, and for once, the Bills seemingly have a QB capable of taking advantage of the league's cushy QB rules geared towards passing offenses. After a decade+ of the shift towards being a passing-focused league, the Bills finally have the ability to rise to the occasion. Finding the open man, hitting downfield passes, and getting rid of the ball quickly will make this team a threat no matter who they're up against. Only now, we actually have the personnel to make this into a regular thing. Our O-line provided a ton of time for Josh to sit back in the pocket as well. Going back & watching highlights made it even more apparent how high the ceiling really is for this offense if Josh continues to develop the way we need him to.

It makes sense with the defense we have, but yes, our offense not being able to do anything after the 2nd half kickoff doesn't look good. However... In all fairness, the Bills had one of the worst success rates on opening drives last year anyway. Our 1st quarter offensive output was really not that great overall, but our opening drives didn't often to lead to TD's either. So even if we elected to receive, it's just as likely we'd end up punting as we do getting the ball first to start the 2nd half.

This fanbase's tradition of assigning all blame to every OC that the Bills employ is growing quite tiresome. Everything good on the field = players. Anything bad = OC. Even in games where we see some amazing play calls that are just screwed up by poor execution (wide open men downfield who drop passes, over/under thrown, fumbles, etc.) still the blame goes to the OC. Hell, I remember several years ago when Tyrod was the QB, playing the Pats in the 2nd game of the season, and seeing so many brilliant play calls that left Bill Belichick's defense scratching their heads... but Tyrod was throwing bad passes, afraid to pull the trigger, or someone would commit a meaningless penalty ruining the momentum. But after the game, it was all blame the OC! Even though the only reason we were in that game was the OC's excellent game plan giving us every opportunity to target the opponents' limited weaknesses with our limited & inferior offense. Not saying there's never blame to be assigned, but if this fanbase had it's way, we'd be shuffling new OC's in & out every year, or several times a year.

He should've had what, 4 or 5 easy TD passes today though that he just missed? At this point I feel like it's just par for the course for Allen. You need him to run to keep the defenses humble & helps open it up for easier passing plays for him throughout the game. The defense has to see he's going to be used as a running threat to keep them honest, but at the same time you're right, can't just keep taking huge hits all game. Josh also needs to learn how to scamper better, slide, drop to the ground before taking hits or just get out of bounds. There's times he could either go down earlier, protect himself better or even just give up on a failed play sooner. I feel like only letting him run on broken plays will not go well. But yes, we need to find a way to ensure he's not KO'd out of a game or seriously injured.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2020-nfl-week-1-picks-and-odds-saints-stomp-bucs-panthers-upset-raiders-jets-stun-bills/amp/ " Jets at Bills Sunday, 1 p.m. ET (CBS) Point spread: Bills -6.5 There are four rules that I live by: never get less than 12 hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city, never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body and when the Jets and Bills play you always smash the under. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese. But seriously, take this under no matter how low it goes. And take the Jets if you need to in a pick 'em league. This is too many points. Sam Darnold is better than Josh Allen. There I said it. The Pick: Jets 17, Bills 14" Yeah... that surprises me, but I get what he's saying about taking the under.

I've been so disinterested I forgot to draft in 2 of my fantasy leagues... Didn't even remember football was starting up soon until I saw a link in another unrelated sports article (Novak Djokovic hitting some woman in the throat with a tennis ball?) that showed a Bills helmet, then popped on over to the boards.

Ok, this post just made me grin at best until the last 2 lines. Then I actually snorted... 10/10 please troll again! The way I read it in my head, it was more Jar Jar Binks than Spanish.

You think that's bad? For the low cost of 1st, 4th, 5th & 6th round pick, $46 million contract & $14.8 million cap hit in 2020, the Bills got this stat line: 0 catches for 0 yards and 0 TD's in 0 games. WHAT A JOKE! F'n slacker WR's these days...

When I had to pick 1 jersey this year, I went with White PRAYING the jersey curse wouldn't continue. Streak is broken! Can now safely purchase jerseys without irrational fear of players disappearing the following year!

People need to quit being so defensive. He's not even saying mean or unreasonable things about Allen. In fact, he's mostly talking up how good the rest of the team around Allen has gotten & crediting the Bills Front Office for piecing together such a great roster. Basically boils down to it's all on Allen now to take the next step, that's it.

And then we just let them ride off to another team Then again, every GM & coach seem to think the only way to possibly succeed in Buffalo is "strong run game, load up on defense," and just hope it all comes together like some elite defensive teams of the past. Thankfully this current staff is at least attempting to put effort into the passing game, as the league has long since favored the pass for years now. Glad the Bills are finally catching up.

Even if the NFL doesn't prevent people from going to games, $100 says the LA Chargers will be playing without fans anyway.

I'd love to be a Bills season ticket holder, just hard when you've never lived anywhere close to Buffalo, much less New York State. Hopefully my overachieving, overqualified for everything wife blows up so big that by the time she's 40, she can get whatever job she wants anywhere in the country. It'd be at that moment I cash in & say "baby, I've never asked you for anything...pick a job in Buffalo." Then my journey will be complete, and i'll finally get my wish of being able to watch the Bills break my heart in person week after week!

As much as I take issue with a lot of what Allen has done so far, I agree with THIS 100%. It's why even though Tyrod & Allen put up virtually the same numbers (though Tyrod is more accurate & less turnovers), I'll take Allen over him even if what we saw last year was his ceiling. At least you can tell he's trying to compete & not phone it in. Nothing is worse than seeing a dump pass on 3rd & long, especially to a covered RB.

I mean, people were also claiming our tandem of a rookie Allen + Nathan Peterman wasn't the worst QB duo in the league that year because the year prior we made the playoffs...and how could we possibly be worse when Allen was an upgrade over Tyrod. Fans always think their team is set for big things and that their players are better positioned than they are. They snark at national writers because "they just don't follow the Bills enough" while at the same time, not following the other 31 teams in the league nearly as much as those national writers do. People always act like the Bills are the only team to make roster upgrades though every team adds to their roster each year. We may have added a nice RB in Zack Moss, but nobody has seen him play at the pro level. We've seen Singletary play well, but never have a full time schedule of carrying the load. It makes sense the sports writers would be cautious in overestimating the duo's value. Hopefully Singletary takes the next step and Moss pans out, then next year we'll be evaluated much higher overall. When we had Lynch, Fred Jackson & CJ Spiller going into 2010, I doubt people thought the team had a bottom tier RB corps.