Mat68

With NE built into the ground its my understanding there are a number of issues that will never be solved that would bring it to state of art.

Removing an executive is not an inexpesive endevor. The Pegulas found reseason to fire Brandon with cause. Not sure but assume that will cost them nothing vs forcing early retirement or buying his contract out. The transition may have accured a year or 2 early but not unexpected. Bringing in someone on the outside to hold the position for a year makes no sense, nor does promoting someone just to remove in the near future.

Not alot of quality on the market in late May. Barring trades or June 1st cuts what you see at Wr and Oline is probably what you get. Kendricks would be an immediate upgrade at OLB. Alexander, and Humber are old. Edmunds, Malano, and Vellajo are young.

Big fan of shady. I honestly think this it, unless he restuctors at the end of the season for less. 4 mil cap savings. Draft a runningback next year or see if Bell makes it out of Pittsburgh.

This to me is terrible logic. Obviously, Watson was the better Qb and no reason why he should have took all those snaps from Watson in Tc and Preseason. It took Watson about 3 weeks before he was rolling. If he had those reps early he would have gotten to playing at a higher level sooner. After the first preseason game Watson was the better player.

Imo the people that are high on Allen think that the can play early. Just like anything Buffalo once 1 or 2 people create a narrative the other player pundits run with what they believe is the prevailing opinion on a subject they dont know well. The moment Allen gives the Buffalo gives just as good a chance to win as any other Qb on the roster he needs to start. Yes, he will make some mistakes but he will also learn and improve. The sooner Allen wins the job, better for the Buffalo Bills.

The accurate comparison is Ken Dorsey. Both played at huge programs at a time you could argue each programs peaks. At the end of the day look at the investment. Aj MCcarron is guaranteed nothing more than so-so back up Qb money. Buffalo trade two seconds to move up 5 picks in the draft for Allen. Everyone agrees the future is Allen right? Now in terms of the competition. In my opinion Mccarron is going to have to play near perfect to hold off Allen. Allen can make the chunk plays and wow plays that Mccarron can not. If its close you go with the rookie and get him as much experience as possible so he can learn and grow so the future can come sooner. There is a reason Vegas believes Allen will play the most games. There is a reason Allen has the third highest probability to win ROY. Thinking Allen is going to play is not an indictment of Mccaron, its human nature and sports in general to go with the young more talented guy over the veteran.

Who cares about Rosen? Hes smart, Allen had a higher wonderlic? So what measure of intellegence are we using to rank the Qbs by? Or are we going off the guy's word who tells everyone how smart he is? Now I have zero issue with Rosen as a prospect or individual. I thought he could be a good fit, but there were multiple Qb starved NFL frachises that did not believe he was the best QB prospect. Rumor has it Buffalo outbid Arizona for Allen.

Imo the deck is tacked against Jackson and Taylor. They start the year of slowly both are out imo. As much as they want to win I think the plan is for Taylor to start they lose he is benched for Mayfield and Hue is fired for Haley.

Cutler is at the end of his career. It would be terrible they have to pull a Marrone and bring in Orton b/c Manuel is no good.

I could be wrong but they are setting this up for Allen to just take the whole thing over and sooner rather than later. He seems to be a hard worker. IF he works as hard or harder than Mccarron and Petterman I think once they start OTA's and everyone on the teams sees the difference it will be only a matter of time. What the team will see? Quicker release, better at throwing the ball outside the numbers, when he has to throw 30 yard lasers, escape-ability, and an overall physical presence neither Peterman or McCarron carry. Irionic, Simms is out infront of this. He believes Allen was the most pro ready than any of the Qbs coming out.

They start out 0-4 or 1-4 Jackson is fired and Haley takes over and probably becomes the head coach at the end of the season. When Hue is fired they bench Taylor for Mayfield.

Hue Jackson has to win 6-7 plus games and show a large amount of improvement to stay the head coach. Taylor with a good run game and defense is the best way for Cleveland to do that. Mayfield will have to completely beat out Taylor. The biggest learning curve will be snaps under center and play action passes where he will be asked to turn his back to the defense. After watching Kizer and the offense turn the ball over multiple times in the redzone, it will have to take a crazy preseason to pass Taylor.

I ment in terms of his ranking. I have seen multiple places rank Allen 1 or 2 in this draft in terms of Qbs.

What majority?

So he is projecting the lines on the games?

Besides the Chargers game he is not as terrible overall as people claim him to be. I would argue he could start on over half the leagues lines. Glenn hardly played and Dawkins stepped in perfectly for him. Richie and wood hurts but both were nearing the end. Bodine, Groy, Miller should fill those two positions and Tellar is a darkhouse to take over mid season. Now its not the cowboys ala 2016 but its also better than Seattles.

Where were the analytics people hiding at when Taylor was top 10 Qb rating Qbr, completion %, has top 5 TD/int ratio? Allen will never be the most efficent qb because he will push the ball down the field. When Allen had 3 NFL fringe talents in his offense he held a better passer rating than Rosen. College stats. In the same offense scheme. In 15 less college games than Wentz, Allen threw for 50 less yards and 1 less TD. Sure SD st dominated Wentz sat alot of 4th quarters, but not 15 games worth or even 7. A small section of the media and fan base are going to be unbearable for Allens career. Who was it that said Allen was 10 for 12 but 1 for 3 on throws over 10 yards? Come on get over yourself. If you watched Allen play his innaccuracy were swing passes and short routes to the weakside of the play.

I could be wrong but imo if Lamar had a good agent he goes top 15. If Jackson ran under 4.4 he goes top 10. There are things along the way that Jackson and his camp were inexperianced dealing with. I know one way of looking at agents, personal trainers is a leach to a cow. But a trainer and agent gets as many people as possible to get eyes on how easy he learns and how fantastic a kid a athlete he is. Seems he was overly sheltered. And again either the contract negotiation will be the hardest or easiest. Take that how you want it. Depends on the lawyer. How many NFL contracts has he work? Imo Jackson lost more money IE draft position and slotting more than what an agent and Qb coach cost. Rosen went 10, Barkley 2. Combine those 2 guys and you have Jacksons college production.

2 biggest needs in the team were Qb and Mike. They got 2 freak athletes with infinite potential. They got 2 guys with the best chance to be a hall of famer at either position. They hit on Allen and Edmunds Buffalo is a perenial comtender. Will they? Time will tell. Daboll building Allen, and Mcdermott building Edmunds. Lets see how it turns out. Imo both start week 1. Both do better than many think.

Dez is a shell of himself. He runs 2 routes slants and fades. He is a me first guy. He will want his looks. Why do that to Allen? Id take Maclin. Atleast he has some speed to keep safties honest. He could be for Buffalo what Ginn was for Carolina.

Say he is owed 14 mil over 2 years and is released. If signed by another team for 2 years 14 mil. The releasing team gets offset by the new team. Instead of player getting 28 over 2 years he gets the 14 over 2.

So what happens if he fumbles the first snap? Throws multiple ints? Or is pretty on point with his accuracy?

Its to avoid playing a guy to early. I get it. You have a room full of 25 to 30 year old millionaires. Many have families and you cant tell them their success and chance of being a champion rides on the shoulders of a 21 year old kid. If he is worthy of the 7th pick he comes in earns his spot and the team follows him. You cant fake that. When you do it ends terribly.

Healthy Bejamin, more mature Jones should help the recieving room. The foundation to the offense is run the ball and Pa. Allen has expericance with that offense and has the ability to create a few big plays. He he can get 2 to 1 big plays vs turnovers the offense could be a surprise. Benjamin in a contract year may be the biggest option. If he clicks with Allen like he did with Cam look out.