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Probably because if you had any reading comprehension he said as much after the game that he was pissed wanted to hit him but didn't intended to hurt him. In Moore's case by Bertuzzi it was known before the game that they wanted to get him back and take him out. That's premeditated. And Gronks hit didn't do the same to White. If White had a broken neck and taken out on a stretcher yea I'd want criminal charges. That's not the case and context matters.

Right hitting a guy late after a play with an elbow, as opposed to grabbing a guy forcing his head and neck into the ground as hard as possible and then proceeding to punch him repeatedly which ended his career and broke his neck altering his life forever seems like a bit of a difference.

Correct because it was a deliberate hit that was premeditated by a previous incident the NHL bff'd badly.

Funny because I have seen hits during plays while a game is occurring that are deliberate and malicious which did bring it far more severe action.

BS. I play hockey and have seen guys run another during a game with a clear intent to injure. I have seen the same after the whistle is blowing or a stick swung to injure. So no I don't separate the game from when the play happens and after because in both cases people act like complete jack a**es. Bertuzzi straight up mugged Moore during the game while the happening and broke his neck. I've said repeatedly Gronks play was stupid and dangerous. I do not believe it was done with intent to injure however, I do believe he wanted to hit him because he was pissed off he even said as much after.. That doesn't matter because the outcome took our guy out and he should be suspended 3-5 games. Burfict's hit on Brown could've killed or broke his neck and his track record says as much that he is a straight thug when he plays.

Makes no difference to me dirty is dirty whether during the play or after and stupidity happens regardless. If we are going to start saying people should be arrested for assault after plays the same can be applied during the game. It was an awful dirty play that occurred in the long list of ones done by players in the NFL and sports in general. If he receives a one game suspension or none then yea I'll be mad as hell. But otherwise if he gets a few games then it is what it is from there. I would expect the Bills to probably take some liberties comes the 24th though and if I was coach of the Bills I'd tell my players to do as much.

Broncos vs Cam Newton season opener in 2016 especially Stewart on Newton. Or Kiko on Flacco this season was far worse to me.

Just watch the Steelers Bengals WC game for starters from 2 years ago for starters. Burfict alone has a highlight real worth of hits. Kiko Alonso on Joe Flacco a few weeks ago for starters or as I said above the entire Bengals Steelers WC game was a straight joke by both teams.

I have see far worse hits then what Gronk did in the last 5 years and those didn't require nor should they have a DA being involved. People commenting for the justice system to get involved are a straight embarrassment to the fan base.

If you can't separate yes Gronk was frustrated for how he was being covered and that is understandable from but he shouldn't have done that please stop reading and go to bed. Virtually everyone I have read has stated as much that it was a blatant cheap shot because the dude lost his cool. Guess what it happens all the time in sports across the board. Doesn't make it anymore right but Gronk is on a long list of idiots who did something stupid and now will face what should be massive repercussions that could cost his team home field in the playoffs.

Agreed it was an emotional dirty play and he even admitted as much when interviewed. He should be suspended for games if not the remainder of the season until playoffs. But this crap that it was "criminal" and "assault" is just insane. Really stupid emotional plays that are dangerous and dirty happen in sports. In response so do massive suspensions. At the same point you cannot start to regulate things with the law with athletes who are at their max emotionally. The bigger outrage should be if the NFL only suspends him a game or none at all. Examples need to be set especially with head hits. If Gronk is out the remainder of the season or at least misses the Pittsburgh game and NE loses that is a massive blow to the Pats to have to go on the road for the AFC title game.

I love TBD far better then BBMB. I do agree the sudden death was unexpected but the quality of threads here for the most part is far improved and a lot of sillyness is non existent here.

There is a difference between pressure and blitzing. When Brady has failed it has been against 4/5 man fronts with exotic schemes that force him to take an extra second to look at the field while the pressure beats his line up front. Otherwise against the blitz he has something like 70 TDs and zero INTs. So yea blitzing is bad.

I think as Bills fans its our duty to go tailgate before the parade if it does happen to offer support in the form of broken tables and people on fire. Respectfully my $.02

The article itself actually has a solid concept in the idea that teams need to develop QBs more and the expectation of just finding with ease a franchise QB with no need to development is foolish. BUT yea this part stuck out like a sore thumb. The writer completely ignores that Roman after year 1 with Tyrod which he created an offense that was made to his best qualities in year 2 tried to develop Tyrod into a pocket passer. Taylor could not and did not develop. It gets really frustrating to hear from the media that the Bills should just be grateful for Tyrod and be done with it. For the record I had zero issue with Taylor coming back even next year to let the rookie QB we have develop but that bridge is smoldering thanks to Peterman coming in when he did. I am not sure why the Bills should be forced to settle with an average QB that at times plays above average. I am a Tyrod fan but he isn't the long term either.

As one of the survivors from BBMB I greatly enjoy the threads here. In general they are far better and more entertaining. Haha I loved that thread. I am leaving but I of course have to make a post stating why I am leaving.

Puke such a gimmick I will where black in spite of this red BS when I attend then

So I am a Tyrod fan but I also know his strengths and weaknesses. Given this coaching staff and the offensive scheme that is being run he isn't a great fit and is better off somewhere else. His first year here we had our most talent on offense as a whole and the scheme was perfect for him. I think someone can replicate that again but they have to be willing and I still only think he can win you the first round in the playoffs. Against the big boys in the later rounds you have to be able to pass for more then 250 yards. Soo I guess I'm a fan but realistic also to what he is and what he can't do.

I saw that also but like you said the ratings were declining pre-Kap anyway. I do think its a factor but the one thing I also noticed was the majority of commenters were 60+ in age if not older which I am not surprised about because they have been the most vocal also about players kneeling and it mimics their parents generation who hated the protests in the 60/70s (remember history repeats). The people opposing the protest do not view the players as people just entertainment like this women: Brenda Gertsch I was a lifelong Steeler fan. The political director, Mike Tomlin needs to go. What he has done to this once great franchise for his own political gain is beyond disgraceful. There is a special place in hell for Mike Tomlin. I will not watch because of the protests. These "people" are paid to entertain me with their physical prowess. I do not care about their beliefs and "ideas". If you aren't going to do your job...Go back to the hood and take up rap. Entertain me, or I will go elsewhere. I can't express my views at work. Why should you? They deserve a knee in their groins. With my Sundays free, my home has never been cleaner and more organized. That pretty much says it all. Once the protest started I am not sure how the NFL is able to put the worms back in the can because at least a part of their viewership will only view the league/players as entertainment and anything that is against their values they are done. I think in a decade the NFL will be different and back up/ahead of now viewership wise but it will require changes and time to pass from those who are upset.

Agreed my Billsness hit hard with me screaming to go down because well of course we would fumble an INT and lose then haha. That would be nice. The draft is hard because I really would like the Bills to get one of Rosen, Darnold, Jackson, or Mayfield. The price though could mean instead of having 2 1sts, 2nds, and a 3rd. We only have a 1, 2, and 3 which means for LB or DT you are only getting one at 2. If they could keep both 1sts and go QB then LB or DT they still would have ammunition in with their 2nd to get a potential starter. Then they go sign a decent LB in FA to go with the draftee and Milano. (FYI my assumption is if the Bills move up they are giving either this years or next years 1st and at least a 2nd possible a 3rd also. So 1st rnd pick for QB for Bills 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. May seem like overpayment but I really think they are moving into the Top 5 for one of these QB's especially if the Colts/Bucs are there.

If this happens I refuse to go to a game in 2018 that is such a worse worst case haha.

I have always thought Bradford was one of the single most overrated QBs ever. The guy came out of college with enormous hype and praise and can't even get a team to the playoffs. The national title game against Florida exposed his flaws as a QB when he played a fast defense that was talented. I always thought in college he was a product of the spread they ran not because of his talent. Personally I think he gets as much attention because a lot of media had him as a cant miss type guy and can't swallow their pride that he is a very average starter. Peter King the one year had him as like the MVP or Comeback player of the year and couldn't stop ravishing how great he was for Chip Kellys system. The fact Nick Foles out performed him in that offense is all you need to know.

Yesterday ended being a pretty cool surprise and it had me thinking about the remainder of the season. I have ended up in two places: Best Case Scenario: Bills make the playoffs and even win a game (were playing TEN/KC/JAX it isn't that outlandish) so for once we all get to have some fun. The team lets Taylor go and finally drafts a rookie who can play even enough to build off this season. I am in the camp that we need a QB and I want them to be aggressive for to get him, but I am not team tank for the QB. I would like to see the defense stay steady with their play and see Dawkins/Z Jones continue to develop over the rest of the year they both recently have been pretty good. I would also like to see Kelvin Benjamin play and give us hope that he can be a piece for 2018. Worst Case Scenario: The Bills flunk out and only manage to win another to get to 7-9 and blow winnable games against IND/MIA that prevent the team from ending the drought so at least one monkey is off our back. The defense reverts back to missing tackles, Tre White gets picked on a plateaus in development, while the offense shows little signs of growth and the offensive line shows no improvement. Additionally the coaching staff continues with very questionable calls on offense that make you wonder how credible McD or the rest of the staff is. The Bills cut Taylor, don't draft a QB instead going for a guy like Josh McCown so they can use their draft picks to fill holes from guys they traded. There is very little to buy in over the course of the offseason given the team pushing a guy like McCown or Peterman as the starter.

Its why the defense staying in their lane and properly tackling is soo clutch. Our LB core in is not very talented and does not have the talent to of come mistakes in scheme. I will say the Jets game to me was the offense making too many mistakes that finally just broke the will of the D. I think had Matthews not fumbled and the game been 10-10 at halftime the Bills would've been in a better place, in hindsight they came out very jittery on both sides despite only being down by 3. And yea read the same thing on the Cover 2. I am surprised Reid hasn't been able to adjust though he typically is quite strong at that.

Snow storm, act of god, Tyrod throwing for 500 yards, and Brady not getting more then a second to throw.